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Anna-Lise Kear says
John Snobelen (MH’s former Minister of Education) recently wrote in the NP that he was having some difficulty understanding such words as “populism, populist”. I am certain that no one would call him “elite” if he did a refresher course in Grade 12 history. The use of populism used by Adolf and his party to gain power in Germany pre-WW2.
The populism Hitler used to create anger, scapegoating Jews, homosexuals, and people with disabilities – exterminating at least 11 million people to protect the white, Arian race, ensuring their dominance and ruling the earth. Does this sound familiar? With terms such as “counter culture”, “anti-race theory”, white supremacy, anti- LBGTQ, “Dems” etc. ? building up scapegoats for sacrifice?
Just some thoughts for JS to ponder.
Brian Tapley says
Glancing over the real estate ads in last weeks Forester it appears that some of the real estate ad writers must have graduated from the Donald Trump school of corrective writing.
The intrusion of a little tiny bit of “reality” into the ads would not actually hurt anybody. I would assume that any person looking to spend several millions of dollars would be getting a fairly complete fact checking of the place in question, by a home inspector, and at least a good lawyer so cheating on the description really will only get you so far as a realtor. Of course if you can actually find people stupid enough to part with millions on your say so, without checking, well congratulations to you and I’d suggest you move on to something more lucrative like a Ponzi scheme or BitCoin sales in the Metro parking lot.
Fred Garvin says
With the Ontario Liberals not running a candidate in the important election that is now upon us, many may be looking for a place to park their votes on June 2. These particular constituents may want to have a look at the latest poll numbers out of 338Canada for the riding of Parry Sound-Muskoka.
https://338canada.com/ontario/1086e.htm
It’s looking like Green Party candidate Matt Richter has a very good chance of defeating the PC candidate and winning the riding. In fact, the Green and PC candidates are currently neck and neck. Just wanted to throw that out there for those interested in a change to the status quo around here.
The rest is up to us, the voters.
Good luck!
Thomas R Spivak says
John Oliver, I think most of us are tired of the same rhetoric from a few individuals beating the same drum over and over and the others being censored.
This is not a true community forum.
John Oliver says
So… I have not seen many postings lately and I am wondering whether it has to do with all or most of us being bored with the state of things or if it has to do with the season. After all we can now get out and enjoy the warm weather, dig in the garden, go fishing and do more than just sit an moan about political stuff.
Here’s something you might want to discuss. Have you noticed that there are a lot of TV commercials that feature a lot of people dancing and jumping and waving their arms and other body parts in your face. It seems to me that their energetic enthusiasm has nothing to do with the product or service that they are try to sell. I guess the advertising agencies go for the low hanging fruit rather than coming up with innovative and fresh ideas. I’m getting tired of all those unsightly body parts gyrating in my face, so I’m going to turn off the TV and go plant some flowers and start enjoy life again, I might even crack open a beer. Cheers
Anna-Lise Kear says
My goodness, the National Post is truly helping us to tone down divisive political rhetoric. Not!
First, they accuse Singh of the cause of divisive politics in Peterborough! Yeah right.
Then, John Ivison (?sp?) entitles his NP piece today, “Let Loose the Dogs of Political War in Northern Ontario”.
Now, I realize political junkies like their phrases and titles. What emotions does JI’s words stir in you?
That any/the opposition are animals? That DF is a political hunter? How far can we apply the metaphor?
The name-calling is basic stuff from the school yard at recess (recall my posting of the label “Stephen Harper’s Pitbull”, one not of my own creating but that of another political pundit). It is easy to fall into the trap of these labels to sound savvy and imagine we know something clever. Perhaps my posting put the opposition in mind of “dogs”. Who knows. The fingers pointing back to me and my words are certainly tingling.
It certainly does not forward thoughtful discussion. Watch for the “political dog” theme.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Pierre Poilievre, Stephen Harper’s Pitbull, a real piece of work. A hard, cruel person, in my opinion.
Carol Alanko says
Carol Alanko
Tue, 3 May, 20:43 (8 days ago)
to huntsville
It appears that our use of salt on Muskoka roads is having a detrimental effect on the health of our lakes. Water fleas which filter algae are being killed by dissolved road salt. These have been the “lawnmowers” which keep down the algae production.
When we first came here 24 years ago we drove on snow covered roads. Sand would be occasionally used, but we did not see black pavement until Spring. Now salt is the norm, we drive year round on black pavement and through puddles like they do in Southern Ontario.
We used to see algae in late August in the lakes if it had been an exceptionally hot summer. Now algae is appearing earlier, in Spring.
Beet solutions and a return to sand only should be considered moving forward or our lakes are going to suffer. Healthy lakes are why we are here and surely what we all want to leave to our grandchildren.
https://ashmuskoka.ca/2020/02/the-problem-with-road-salt/
Allen Markle says
The music please! Would you play me ‘Family Tradition’ by Hank Williams Jr., because our parliamentarians have again been subjected to ‘the word’. Like it’s never happened before! It was likely well said, ‘though maybe the Commons is not where most might choose to let’er rip! I’m quite surprised that some of those present were alert enough to take note.
I have read excerpts from great speeches; have listened to speakers who, whether you agreed with them or not, could hold your attention and eloquently present a view. I haven’t heard too many such speakers recently. Certainly not from the people we have elected; who seem to revert to thumping, booing, hissing, “hear-hearing” rabble once in the ‘House’.
The kerfuffle seemingly erupted over the question of an aircraft having being used to observe one of the Ottawa ‘freedom’ convoys? As long as there wasn’t napalm dropped or any strafing runs, what’s the beef?
The word may get outed a bit too often now days, and has certainly lost a lot of it’s power to arouse indignation, as it might have in the past. Except in the House. Whether that’s good or bad is a personal boundary and some of us might choose to hold our tongue in most instances.
I’m no Trudeau-trooper; not the last time, not this time; but as the old folks said “Some idiocy could make a preacher swear.” So, I’m okay with him using the word as an adjective; to describe the foolish people who waste time arguing over something so unimportant.
Surely the homeless, the debt, the poor, the infirm, the dispossessed, deserve their attention.
I’m pretty sure the word might well be used to accentuate the type of (insert word) foolishness these people get off on!
Yep! Pretty sure.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Ah, The National Post would have us believe that DF Conservative leader is a changed man. Here is one Very important Ford Conservative policy which has not changed, but entrenched and on steroids: the privatization of health care (this includes LTC, home care, hospital care, including surgeries).
Despite the record for-profit LTC death rate standing at 5 times that of publicly owned LTC, Ford Conservatives sell off a “new round” of 30,000 nursing-home bed licenses, with 16,000 of those to for-profit operators. It’s as if the destructive COVID performance never happened!! Clearly DF rewards poor performance, so much for merit.
(“Nursing homes are prized financial assets … their profitability is ensured because they’re government-subsidized… they are sought by private equity firms, which are notorious for slashing costs to maximize profits”, L. McQuaig, Toronto Star, May 5, 2022.) We can again be reminded of Rob Ford’s “the gravy train” – I suggest the “gravy trough” of for-profit subsidy, while starving the public health care system. I think an appropriate response may be “Oink, Oink”.
(On a local level, there is a Green Matt Richter sign on my front lawn. The Greens are looking more like the real Progressive Conservative party than the Ford Conservative knock-off brand).
Thanks for reading.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Kelly McParland (National Post, May 3, 2022) really has it in for “boomers”. “Boomers Only Have Themselves to Blame for Governments that Can’t Afford to Care for Them”. Here, she is setting her sites on the Canadian scene. However, she penned an op ed in 2013 in the US with the same mantra.
She is correct in reporting that the tsunami of boomers would hit the healthcare system and has been visualized and understood for decades. Now, a pandemic has helped to wipe off the face of the earth several elderly seniors from that generation in a death culling – much worse in the USA (some of all these deaths could have been mitigated).
Her finger wagging that boomers should not have expected/supported their governments in providing all those social programs over the decades and we wouldn’t be in this fix of having less in healthcare for them/us as we age. Boomers are not the only cause of increase costs in health care. Just as substantial are the costs of the advanced diagnostic and treatment technologies now available.
Not sure if Kelly means this as a wedge issue to float all of us boomers onto an ice floe in the sunset.
As a boomer, who learned very valuable lessons from a mother and father who had been through 2 World Wars and a devastating Depression, her conclusion is simplistic. Values of saving, making do, not living beyond one’s means, etc. Also, just as clearly exemplified was that social safety nets for all can bring dignity into human lives. Public healthcare and public education were prized. People need a helping hand from time to time. Clearly, “boomers” did not ask to be born to cause this havoc. Clearly, “boomers” have been working, productive, contributing Canadians.
Finally, Kelly Mc Parland- we are all on the same human train, heading in the same direction – the only difference is that we are in different rail cars. You will be here soon enough. Make sure you don’t live too long to strain “the system”.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Thanks John for your insights, noted and appreciated. The pandemic crisis results do not bode well for tackling climate change. If even one person asks him/herself about the circumstances under which they may be prepared to giving up some personal freedom, maybe there can be some hope in that.
After all, we all can keep learning – if we wish to.
John Oliver says
Anna – Lise. I agree with you but you are forgetting that 30% of any population doesn’t give a rats… about anyone or anything except maybe, and I say this with skepticism, themselves. This 30% shows up in just about every aspect of life. Eventually the penny may drop but you need to remember these folks don’t have the mental capacity to grasp the concept. So let them have their freedom, it’s up to each of us to protect ourselves and our loved ones as best we can. We know what freedom is and how to cherish it. Also remember the old adage, “ an empty vessel makes the most noise “
Blessings to you and your family.
Anna-Lise Kear says
For those who feel their freedoms were violated during the pandemic, I have a question.
Can you imagine a time or situation under which you would be willing to give up (even temporarily) some personal freedom for the good of other Canadians?
For example, would you give up some personal freedom if your country was invaded by a foreign adversary? During a war? What about a deadly invading virus, which threatened to kill thousands/millions and could not be seen? Imagine that we were “at war” with a virus.
2 recent reports of interest:
1] “So there’s a new study in a prestigious medical journal that shows people who don’t get vaccinated against COVID 19 are not just putting their own health in danger. They also contribute disproportionately to the risk of infection for those who do get their shots… the study shows that water is wet & that heavy objects tend to drop to the ground if you let them go” (Toronto Star April 26, 2022). It has been obvious from the beginning that if we gave up some of our freedoms, followed public health guidelines, and took advantage of vaccines, more people could have been saved, and less costly sickness for others.
2] “Thousands of COVID 19 deaths in U.S. South were preventable, study shows” (Health News, April 29, 2022).
So, are there any threats to our country and fellow citizens where you would obey the law – literally and in spirit- for the sake of yourself and others?
There is no doubt in my mind, that had former PM Stephen Harper been faced with the same challenges of the trucker protest in Ottawa, that the Emergencies Act would have been applied. He could not have supported breaking of the rule of law. To imply otherwise is disingenuous.
Anna-Lise Kear says
yes, it is me again! Selling health care, hospital care in the market place costs taxpayers any important re-investment in our publicly funded health care.
Conservatives have lost their ethic of care, certainly diminished the same, when they sell health care, hospital care, LTC, and Home Care in the market place. Treating health care like a highway sold for profit to the highest bidder, demonstrates their business acumen (of which they are very proud). “We can sell things and expect them to be better owned and managed”.
They fail to understand that the access and importance of public health care to Ontarians is not equivalent to: a stationary shop, retail, selling golf-pro services, running a media business, owning and operating a fast food franchise.
Finally, my understanding is that business people, with savvy business skills, return/re-invest their profits back into their businesses (growth, infrastructure, staff). Recently, Conservative government failed to collect revenues owed from license renewals to reward vehicle drivers. Less investment in healthcare, education, and/or environmental action. Next step will be, “we can’t balance the budget, so must sell off more healthcare services”- then we can increase hospital beds in Muskoka!
Public trust has been/should have been lost in the large for-profit LTC businesses. When coupled with lack of political will from legislated government oversight by Conservatives, to hold repeated regulatory offenders accountable, the elderly, people with disabilities, and we – Lose. When for-profits return dividends to investors yet fail to provide return investment to buildings (air conditioning, Heppa filters during a pandemic, increased staffing during an outbreak), we Lose. At this stage, for-profit management wants the public purse (Rob Ford’s “gravy train”) to foot the bill for LTC building upgrades.
Hence my question, how will the Conservative government pay for the additional hospital beds? Possibly by selling off more of healthcare in the market place (or perhaps closing Public Health offices during a pandemic to save money). Certainly, giving away revenue, paying off debt, and trying to balance a budget does not bode well for any thought of government re-investment in our worn public healthcare/hospital system.
George Kitching says
Is there a film crew (possibly Scythia) planning on shooting a feature film in Huntsville in 2022? Please advise.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Conservative Campaign 2022
I have it! From 2018 “buck-a-beer” to 2022 “pick-up truck required”. Finally, here is who we are to distain for this go around of toned-down populism from the Conservative party:
• Anyone who is not a white, male labourer
• Anyone who does not drive a pick-up truck (at $36,000 to $90,000 new, a pop)
• Anyone who wears a suit (my goodness, this would have included Bill Davis!) or uniform of a certain gender (e.g. male nurse, those in healing professions)
• Anyone who cannot afford privatized child day care
• Anyone not too concerned with hand guns ownership, especially in the cities
• Females in the trades – they don’t really exist
• Those folks in the trades who have earned a post-secondary school education degree
• Anyone who does not use profanity on a regular basis when referring to government
However, if you identify with Marlboro country cowboy with horse, then you are a “real man”. Real men have pick-up trucks.
Hope all can see through this new divisiveness. For the record, I do not know where my family and friends would be without the competent service provision of vital, qualified people (all gender and ages) in the trades. Each has come to our aid when needed most.
John Oliver says
Well said Allen Markle, I think you speak for most of us, but I wonder how long it will take for reality to sink in or will we start to hear the moans about the high price of gas and why are we getting involved in this war? I hope my unfavourable faith in humanity his proven incorrect and we hold on until this evil is eliminated. Blessings
Allen Markle says
Again tonight there is a news report that makes me want to cry “Enough!” I know it would be in vain, because there seems to be nothing and no one who can, or will help the soldiers and people of the Ukraine. No respite for them in the face of a criminal and despot of the most repugnant order.
No JFK to say the end. As a Canadian, I am powerless.
And I am torn. I want those brave people to stand firm, but by what right can I expect them to do that? To forfeit their lives to satisfy my desire for revenge. And I do crave that: revenge!
I was raised, impressed with the dictum to never wish anyone ill. I’m not sure how well I have adhered to that instruction in the past; well I hope, but recently I fail. I wish this creature ill! For at least 5 weeks now I cannot adhere to what I was taught.
“Justice is mine…….” If only I could propose a target for that kind of justice.
It makes me wonder though, that if in such a position as those brave people, how would we as a nation perform?
This tyrant spawns destruction wherever he chooses and, if this type of armed subjugation of sovereign nations continues, how soon will we find out?
Where is the point that out Western Society, in unison, cries “Enough!”
Anna-Lise Kear says
Thank you Mr. Markle for your observations and feedback. As an aside, I admired Bill Davis; the last PC Prime Minister I admired was Joe Clarke . I admit it has been a long time ago to recognize what I would call “real/true Progressive Conservative leader”.
Do you think my concerns Really trouble MH, DF, JK? I doubt it. I have lived too long not to see the short and long-term outcomes of some of their policies as affecting Ontarians and recognize my bias For health care, public education, non-profit, and rigorous government oversight not just spending but of the quality and quantity of service and care delivery for vulnerable (children, elderly, people with disabilities, persons with mental illness).
I also recognize governing and policy making for a country so diverse as truly daunting; regionalized geography and history make governing very complex. However, the talent in party needs to come from diversely educated, experienced, and “serving-oriented” MPs who bring not just political smarts (these can be learned) but real lives worked outside of the political arena, touched by many examples of Canadians (not just the business sector). It is a bonus if these members know themselves as psychologically self-aware (e.g. how their pasts have shaped who their are, personal biases, etc.).
I can be patient for parliamentary debate by the party in power and the opposition(s) at both the parliamentary and senate levels. Usually it takes time, give and take.
However;
1] I recoil at overly populist trumpets of rhetoric. For example, as per National Post, “elites” are still to be distained for this electoral season. Do we as voters identify a common “enemy” in the “elites”? Who are “they”? ?? The rich, the educated, the powerful, the anti-vaxxers, the truckers, the experienced, those on social assistance, those of another ethnicity, the academics, the trades person? Who becomes our source of imagination, our fear, and our anger as “elites”. The pitting of an “enemy”, an “elite” as being fought by a political party is old high school team sport and a shallow way to distinguish a political party objectives and agenda.
2] leadership, direction in a recognized time of crisis (e.g. Donald Trump presidency, pandemic, climate change). At these times, we deserve the best possible. Parties knowing how to act, when to unite. I have seen very little of that kind of pro-active leadership from DF Conservatives during this pandemic. He plods the party agenda and ignores pro-active planning. My view is that he has been very late to the fire, and has not surrounded himself with the best experts, nor quickly, actively followed the advice. I expect very little else from him and his team than the “bias towards normalcy”.
Allen Markle says
Anna-Lise Kear: I am somewhat humbled by the tenacity with which you berate anything related to conservatism; even to the letters of the alphabet associated with that ideology. Your championing healthcare is admirable, although you must feel there is more to it than just that.
Even I as a ‘right leaning’ voter, feel somewhat bruised each morning. DF, JK, MH, BD and whoever, must arise absolutely mottled from the beating you have delivered them, here on Doppler.
But to point out a right leaning paper is humor, while, I suppose (?) feeling that left leaning literature is acceptable, gives me pause.
To point out that a specific party doesn’t have the talent to do the job, might infer that some other party does have the people to complete the task.
I’m sure there are talented, capable and caring people in all parties; unfortunately, they don’t appear to to be the leaders. It makes it impossible for me to vote for a mainstream party, but I will vote.
Today, everything seems to be swung too far one way or the other and people and parties seem incapable of finding a middle ground. Our politicians are incapable of formulating a policy that the majority of the people can associate with, so they simply attempt to discredit the opposition for not having one.
Too bad they are so well paid for that lack of leadership and ability!
Don’t you just ‘hate’ that?
Anna-Lise Kear says
Hi, here is your humour for the day. National Post (writer Sabrina Maddeaux) titles the article as, “Calling Pierre Poilievre a ‘populist’ is a lazy scare tactic used by the elites he threatens.” Sound clever? maybe.
However, the word ‘elites’ has been a well-used, hackneyed, ambiguous term used in populism for political campaigning as a catch phrase (e.g. think Rob Ford and Doug Ford campaigns, think catch phrase ‘buck-a-beer’). It is sufficiently lacking in meaning so the hearer can assume it is their enemy/anyone who isn’t them (e.g. do all Conservatives drink beer? Probably not).
And that is the humour- downplaying a populist stance against PP within the very use of populist verbiage itself.
Populism, in my opinion and my understanding of the term, is emotional abuse of the electorate, antecedent to civil war. It appeals to/reveals emotions rather than use of our brains to think about political policy and recognize the complexity of some issues. It is frequently used to define the “other” person/point of view who/which is not ours. Wonder why we perceive some news in divided, partisan ways? It may be fine for use at a football game – but not for governing a Province/Country.
I had never considered the National Post an addition to the comic section before. Learn something every day.
Anna-Lise Kear says
The DF Conservative government has proved time and time again that it cannot lead during a crisis, even years into the pandemic experience. Their performance overall is D minus in my accounting books.
Most recent issue is the continued, unclear message on protective masking & the nonsense in over-riding jurisdictions by canceling mandated mask wearing. Really stupid action & inaction. Current wave is more contagious, masks are one helpful measure to use. Both Kenny and Ford have over-ridden any school board or regional area Medical Officers of Health (e.g. in Ontario, Niagara. In Alberta, the city of Calgary.) to impose mask mandates. This is truly Unethical for populations in these circumstances. Continued warning from the science and medical community is ignored (Quebec showing a bit more sense by keeping mask mandates longer).
When has the “wait and see” attitude ever proven the best for citizens under these endemic circumstances?
If the DF Conservatives are unable and inept at managing this crisis, our experience does not bode well for a proactive plan and perspective on climate change. Neither the Federal or Provincial Cons have sufficient scope of talent within their elected members to prioritize, focus, or understand our current nor the future crises. They must be voted out of power – start in Parry Sound-Muskoka this June.
Anna-Lise Kear says
If there is one thing we trust, it is the National Post language. Today, Tristan Hopper “The NDP plan to prop up Trudeau while still hating him”. The title stopped me from reading the article to be better informed on an opposing view. The same was true for the “lock her up” mantra of populism in any previous comments from media.
Yes, we can count on words such as “Hate” coming from this newspaper. I truly doubt the leaders “hate” each other – both are standing up for Canada as elected servants. However, whatever their personal animosities may/may not be – there must be enough self-control for effective governing (including opposition). When the issues may be policy disagreements, why must the media belittle physical appearance, empathetic behaviour, and “hate” rhetoric?
I don’t like DF, or Polivere (sp?) – but it is because of their public political performance and policy, not who they “like” or “hate”. Grow up National Post writers.
John Stanley says
I see that Pakistans PM has been ousted by a overwelming vote. what has happened here in Canada with all the fiascoes from SMC to the massive overspending, and 7 years caulling elections whenever it suits him and not the every 4 years that is the law
Charles Clark says
No, Mr Markle it had nothing to do with you. Your comment and inference that I crossed the guidelines for Doppler is not understood. If they had been crossed, I am sure the editor would not have published my comment.
Allen Markle says
John Stanley: I chose ‘roto Rooter’ simply for the way it sounds; less nautical than ’tiller’ and more earthy.
On that earthy note, our gardens should certainly thrive this year. An election!!!! The entire province will be ‘greening’ with the amount of soil enhancement being offered. For Free!
There was never any intention of disrespect inferred in my comment, as someone may have assumed.
Chas Clark: If I was the target of your comment (Really!!!!), I will draw your attention to the fact that our ‘Doppler’ has a guideline. It is to maintain decorum and keep us civil. To the chagrin of some I suppose, but hopefully to the benefit of us all.
Trust the system. It seems to work.
John Stanley says
Mr Markle: A roto-rooter is used to unplug plumbing. The sun is shining, the ground is drying and warming. The roto-tiller will do the digging and mixing and then the garden Will grow.
John Stanley says
Nancy Long: ALREADY USED IT WHEN MY EXCELLENT WIFE (a PSW) had cancer and needed meds injected after surgery, radiation and kemo. I already said i paid for it myself through my union.
Nancy Long says
I do like reading the exchanges of information and I’m really curious about John Stanley and his insurance plan from his employer that covers home care. While completing a Community Health Survey, I noticed this is a question that the government is asking people. And, of course, I had no idea this was even an option for insurance. I know that my extended health care plan didn’t offer this option. However, even if you have the option of insurance paid for home care, it doesn’t mean that you will find people willing to work.
Chas Clark says
There is always balance in my opinion without the name calling and labeling. Really!!!!!
Allen Markle says
John Stanley: in light of your comment, should we refer to you as the ‘mix-Master’? or in deference to the purchase you made recently, possibly the ‘roto-Rooter’?
In either case, may your garden grow.
Geraldine O’Meara says
I watched with horror the horrific events that are happening in the Ukraine, brutal murder, rape, killing, torture and total destruction, all from my comfortable sofa in my living room. But, I am not feeling comfortable, I am feeling angry. This war has gone on too long, too many lives have been lost!
As I see it, and from what I have unearthed from research, Vladimir Putin, a murderous man and hungry for power, who speaks the speak of religious belief and a ‘holy war’, is being backed by a fanatical, dominant leader, Bishop Kirill, Patriarch of the Orthodox Church, who is steeped in an ideology of a 10th century saint, Vladimir of the Rus, all of the dark ages. Kirill may be the real power behind this unholy war.
It also needs to be said that NATO has acted like a big man (U.K. and U.S. really) to a little kid (Ukraine), poke the bear (Russia), and when the bear attacks the kid, the big man hands him sticks and stones to fight off the bear
The trouble is, the bear is a ‘rogue bear’, and sticks and stones are not going to stop it; when a rogue bear gets a taste of blood, he’s on the kill. Putin has had a taste of blood, and he’s on the kill.
Diplomacy and sanctions are not going to work. I think we’ve missed the chance. Zelensky has been pleading with the world to close the airspace and provide sufficient weapons to defend themselves. The reply is not wanting to start a 3rd world war. In my mind, we are already in it, and the ‘big man’ who is standing from afar, is running out of sticks and stones, and the ‘little kid’ is being brutally slaughtered.
Close the space, provide more adequate weapons—the ‘big man’ has a responsibility whatever the risk might take.
I can only hope and pray that Zelensky is not going to go down in history as a war martyr trying to defend his people and country from the brutality of Russia!
Anna-Lise Kear says
For some investigative reporting on for-profit in home care, Ontario, here is the link/address:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/home-care-support-private-companies-1.6387911
Things have to change.
John Stanley says
This forum is a great place to stir the pot, and i think that i do that quit well.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Stanley, I am glad for you and yours. There is always a balance in my opinion of individual responsibility and the advocacy for others who are more vulnerable, without the name calling and labeling, which occurs.
My experience is that when government assistance is needed, it should be available. There are ups and downs to family circumstances throughout life and times. Recognize your good fortune, which includes opportunities to work, be educated, and receive healthcare. Please then remember others with fewer opportunities.
I do not regret supporting when and where I can, a publicly funded health care safety net. Nor do I demand/expect preferred treatment for health care – I just count my blessings for what we have.
Finally, in voting June 2022, please protect important taxpayer investment.in public health care and public education in Ontario.
John Oliver says
Dr. Bergman’s statistics are interesting but speaking for myself, don’t necessarily reflect reality. It’s true that most comments and responses come from the few people that feel that their opinions and comments matter. I myself read all the postings everyday and find them interesting in one way or another and I am sure that there are many like me. It always amazes me that even though I often disagree with an opinion expressed, I also often get a better perspective of the issue and see it in a new light. Weather I choose to respond is not important. The important thing is that I may now see the other side of the coin and hopefully be more understanding of the person and the issue. Weather you choose to post a comment is a personal choice.
John Stanley says
mr bargman: i think you are trying to tell us that not to many people respond to the speak up site
John Stanley says
Anna: my personal wealth is all tied up in our abode, (approx 1 mil) . our children have been educated to look after them selves with out government handouts. we plan to pass in our beds and then the children can split it up between themselves. wills are always being disputed or changed, and home care is looked after by personal insurense that i worked to obtain for over 40 years. we grew up in a capitalist country, not socialist like we have now and thought died in 1991 and were taught to work for ourselves and not look out for government handouts. and besides that MH had a lot of good ideas but not all.
Allen Markle says
What do such numbers tell me Howard Bargman? Nothing sinister I hope. For myself, they only suggest that there are some who find Doppler a medium through which they can comment and, that there are those who are content just to read. You are invited to pick a side.
I will also mention here that Tricia and I attended the ‘Acoustic Floyd’ show at Canvas Brewery Saturday evening and thoroughly enjoyed it. We have some great local talent, for sure. Music from the ’60’s and 70’s can still real me in. In my opinion this show was extremely well done and my cap is off to the performers.
And there is that dynamic again. Some offering something; music, a comment, that others are are invited to enjoy (or otherwise).
Again, performance or critique.
Your choice.
Dr. Howard Bargman says
In March , 21 different people contributed 67 published letters. Five people (24%) of the submitters counted for 75% of the letters.
I know what this tells me.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Stanley, you should be fine to stay at home for as long as possible, IF you have the personal wealth to spend on private home care options, and IF you weren’t counting on those personal savings to leave to your family.
You may also have the personal wealth to access the costly retirement home care in order to avoid LTC, nursing home care.
Otherwise, perhaps you can learn more about the Conservative record for investment in public health care.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Ontario Conservatives are out of touch. Here are past and present examples:
Past chestnut: If you are old enough to remember the Mike Harris ‘Common sense revolution’, you may remember the “Welfare Diet”. In a pushback from the claims that food bank use had increased in the province, MH had one of his Conservative Ministers “prove” that welfare rates could ensure the recipient an adequate, nutritious diet, no need to go to a food bank. An example of a “Welfare Diet” was outlined by the Minister, using then current grocery prices. Several people willing to test the claim abided by the examples for a few weeks and found that they experienced “physically weakened conditions” as a result. I’m sure you can figure out follow-up questions.
Present example: initiated in the MH years, CCACs were mandated to give contracts to for-profit agency bids for professional (e.g. nursing, physiotherapy) and PSW services. This was concurrent with the for-profit new builds of LTC homes, awarded by MH Conservatives, tipping the balance of for-profit/non-profit sources of care.
Short and long-term results: loss of workers, decrease in wages, and finally some decrease in services and the predictable decrease in oversight of contract performance (this is standard formula for Conservatives). Worker retention, recruitment, and training became greater challenges. So too did service provision by consistent worker and hours of care available. All one has to do is speak with seniors and others who wish to stay in their own homes, yet can’t get the services Or others who deplete their savings for personal paid services by tens of thousands of dollars over 2-3 months (I personally know of 2 examples). What does one do if the savings are not available?
For-profit home care services under government, publicly funded payments have been quite able to reward their investors and share-holders with dividends from the public purse and at the expense of additional hours of service for those in need.
Dan Daniels says
Thank you Al Markel for your input on Mar 27. So many people that worked hard through the pandemic were not appreciated.
Allen Markle says
Might I take a moment to draw our Huntsville council’s attention to Page 9 of the latest ‘Forester’. An item on Honey Harbour and pickle ball courts. 6 courts for $300,000.!! And the residents have committed to raising half the cost themselves. What a novel concept!
Then I will wonder who is in charge of procurement in Huntsville.
And whether the Curling Club may feel somewhat slighted ?
Anna-Lise Kear says
The DF Conservative government is very foolish to order the end of mask mandates. Wave 6, increased infections across the country, and in Ontario increasing numbers in hospitalizations, including intensive care units is threatening to exhaust the system and those who care for us.
There is little compassion for health care workers and health professionals or for those people awaiting hospital treatments and surgeries. It is my great hope that not one health care worker or health care professional will vote for the ineptitude of leadership from the Conservative party in Ontario.
Trudeau and Tory have not been perfect. But DF’s Conservative incompetent performance has been the worst. The Ontario Conservative party does not deserve our vote.
John Oliver says
You are Correct Mr Stanley and I doubt that you were hacked due to banking on line. It was more likely due to credit card scam. Take care and be safe
John Stanley says
Mr. Oliver: you i see have never been hacked. try losing $4000.00 to a hacker to use at Cannada`s Wonderland. the bank reimbursed us but then and there all the plastic went into the garbage. as they say cash is king and they cannot hack it. progress is good but not always better. also when your pocket is empty you stop buying,
Bill Spring says
Anna-Lise
Thanks for the explanation. I better understand where you’re coming from with the 50-50 split.
John Stanley says
i think that some people are looking forward to be looked after by the government. at almost 81 i just bought a new rototiller for my garden and excercise. staying in my own home is a much better prospect that a LTC home. we need to look after ourselves more and not try to outlive all our friends. we all pass but some are not prepared or even want to think about it, be prepared and live happy.
John Oliver says
To Steve Lehman. Yep, I noticed that same problem about seven years ago. It’s especially bad at the first of the month when folks go to the bank to pay their bills and you stand in line for what seems like hours just deposit a cheque or take out twenty bucks. I made the change to electronic banking and I haven’t been inside my bank in the last five years. Now if I could only save all that time I saved and tac it onto the end of my life, I could live for another year or two.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Bill Spring; my focus has almost exclusively what is happening in the Province during COVID.
I fully understand a local perspective, having been a Discharge Planning Nurse in Huntsville working with seniors and their families. As a former Director of Care at a small nursing home and a retirement home I understand fully the challenges of families and their loved ones in accessing care. As a former educator of PSWs, I understand their challenges during a working shift and during an outbreak.
In the past, I have also had to seek care for a 90 year old father. To that end, I can imagine your perspective of local and personal experience.
However, my current perspective has remained Provincial, over the course over 30 years of policy implementation by the party in power. My bias is clearly nursing and nursing care. The 50-50 split in services may mean little to a local experience, but to a Provincial performance and accountability, I would like to see a serious change in government. I am truly concerned with the possibility of erosion of hospital care when for-profit performers are welcomed in.
Bill Spring says
Anna-Lise
Speaking as someone who had to travel out of town to visit a relative in a LTC facility, until their name got to the top of the list for an available bed locally, the last thing on our mind was whether it was profit or not for profit. Until such time as there’s enough “not for profit “ beds in our our local community to handle the needs of all Huntsville residents that need round the clock care, there is definitely a need for “ for profit “ LTC in our community. I suggest that it is a socialist dream that we can all look forward to local “ not for profit “ beds when the time may come for us to need one. Imagine the tax burden on our grandchildren to fund such.
Bill Spring
John Stanley says
wow i am really suprised that no one jumped on me for my last post. i am assuming the long term care and covid feascos are more important than climate. no climate, no ltc needed, and no covid would not matter. priorities???
Dennis Wilks says
Thank you Dawn for your quick response. I did phone the Simcoe-Muskoka Health Unit and was told they are not tracking the cases as they did before. However, I was told the cases are on the increase and I think it is important that we are aware of this when we go into stores, restaurants etc. I certainly continue to wear my mask when I go enter businesses but of course many people do not.
Steve Lehman says
Have you ever noticed how the more that financial institutions try to make transactions simpler, the more difficult they become? It doesn’t add up.
I had to make my bi-monthly trip to the bank this morning to put some cash in my account and then pay some bills. Pretty straightforward. As I stood in line watching the minutes accumulate at a much faster rate than my savings though, I had plenty of time to be intrigued by the stories I was overhearing being told to the infinitely patient associates standing behind the pandemic glass barriers.
A couple of the younger customers, smart phones at the ready, were trying to explain to the ‘tellers’ how electronic banking worked and how they wanted to withdraw some money because they had a whole pile of it in another account in a differently branded bank only two provinces away. Another, older customer wanted to cancel his overdraft protection because it was costing him money every month. A middle-aged couple were tying up yet another ‘teller’ as they argued with each other because one of them had withdrawn money from their joint account without telling but it wasn’t their fault because their other bank was supposed to have covered that withdrawal electronically. And on and on it went.
I understand why the banks promote all these ‘conveniences’ of course because they all help contribute to the billion dollar plus profits banks are accumulating every year. People paying their bills on time and using good old cash to buy only the stuff they can truly afford doesn’t redirect service fees back into the bank’s coffers. And as much as they like to market that they are here for the customer, I suspect their shareholders are realizing more benefit from all the promises than the people standing in line ahead of me. They may think they are getting free rewards points and free air miles and free chequeing and, best of all, cash back on purchases but as many of us who have been around at least long enough to remember when banks were paying 13 and 14 percent interest on their GICs know, there is nothing free in life. Except advice. And we all know what free advice is worth. Steve Lehman
Anna-Lise Kear says
On a positive note, one of the best articles I have recently read is “Why we disagree so much on COVID” (Dr. Jillian Horton, Toronto Star, March 28, 2022). Her article has merit when one considers the illogical responses to COVID protocols, vaccinations and even climate change.
“But one of our greatest cognitive vulnerabilities is in the fact that our minds don’t necessarily like to think about problems that suggest our safety – or someone else’s – is in serious peril. In face of these types of threats, as with the pandemic, we’re all mostly hard-wired with a tendency for our minds to whisper seductively to us, Everything is Fine. (a normalcy bias).
“… we can only understand what we’ve experienced. That’s all we can really know, and we’re limited by it, because it shapes all our ideas”. “If we haven’t experienced something ourselves – Or if we did not train specifically to respond to it – we won’t be inclined to recognize it until it’s too late.” “people often misread the degree of a threat”.
We need to have some trust in those who have trained to address threats – in this instance, think epidemiologists, medical scientists, and public health professionals -those with experience in infectious outbreaks. Consider those monitoring climate change threats. Just because the forest fire or extremes of flooding or landslides has not arrived at our immediate doorsteps – that therefore this is not a case for concern (planning, action).
To counter the ‘normalcy bias’ mind tricks, Horton suggests 2 questions to combat/flush out cognitive error and our lack of insight:
1] What else could this be?
2] How do I know that?
Rather than distain the elites as populism advises, be humble enough to recognize that there are others trained to recognize and respond to threats. Do I think we should live in constant, all consuming anxiety? Of course not. But we could be wise enough to recognize what we don’t know and learn from others who take the trouble to train, educate, and prepare.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Paris and Mr. Spring; what I am advocating for in non-profit/for-profit LTC is the return to a 50:50 balance (this in itself would undo the MH years of tipping the scales in home care and LTC to the for-profit sector).
Before praising for-profit LTC run homes, have a look at the poor performance during COVID 19. Their for-profit did not go into a timely fitting their homes with filtration systems to reduce transmission. They did not hire and train replacement staff, nor staff up the levels needed, with no help from the DF Conservative government after wave 1. Instead, the Conservatives focused on contracting with for-profits for upgrades to their facilities for more private rooms – contracts that will be carried into the next provincial government. While this assists some with infection control concerns, it allows for more profit to be made. Do you really believe that additional need staff and improved staff professional-non-professional mix will be guaranteed with that additional money? I don’t.
Non-profit homes performed better – that must tell you something!
I agree we cannot classify All for-profits or All non-profits into the same categories. However, we can look at some decent investigative reporting on LTC performance. Hands down, for-profits failed.
Add to that the devastating move by the DF Conservatives to reduce comprehensive inspections of LTC facilities, deep cutting oversight and we have terrible outcomes for residents, COVID aside!
My concern remains for the same MH strategy to be used with hospital care, with DF Conservatives. Do we need to repeat this experiment and imagine different results? That to me is fallacy. How many more lessons do we need to show similar results?
John Stanley says
everyone: after Trudys speech today get ready for a lot more tax, to pay for it, higher fuel prices to heat your home and fuel your auto. the polution from the electric power plants to charge your car, and the cost to upgrade the power grid. so folks rush out and buy your new ev, convert to all electric homes, and watch the vapor trails from all those 300 and 500 passenger jets and the government still will not meet its carbon goals. i am going to buy a new gas powered auto that should last me for the last 25 years of my life
Dawn Huddlestone, Managing Editor says
Hi Dennis,
When the province changed its testing criteria to limit the number of people eligible for PCR tests, the health unit ceased reporting case counts for individual municipalities because the data was no longer an accurate reflection of actual transmission in the community.
Dennis Wilks says
A lot of good information on Doppler BUT am wondering why Simcoe-Muskoka no longer show new covid cases in Huntsville, Bracebridge etc.. Since I live in Huntsville and shop in both Huntsville and Bracebridge, I would like to know the figures for each before I head off to town.
John Oliver says
The two individuals that stole the two cars and endangered the lives of many should get a stern letter advising them not to do it again, after all a slap on the wrist is a far too severe a punishment. I am sure they had a perfectly good reason for doing it. It will be interesting to see how our judicial systems processes these poor upstanding citizens.
Allen Markle says
It is by a rather circuitous path that I reach my comment today. Some of us were sitting talking about government performance during the last couple of years. I felt that my assessment was harsh, until I was informed by some people, of situations that I would never have contemplated. I was not aware that some employers lost people who collected CERB, but then went to work for themselves!
We, the tax payers, will foot the bill for a program that did little but pay people to not work and now can’t get them to return to work. I have read enough employment/ unemployment numbers, explaining percentages, to realise I will never sort it all out; numbers can be spun too many ways.
As a senior, I received a single, $500.00 payment during Covid; I guess for ‘pain and suffering’ or else an outright bribe. Except for missing a lot of people interaction and entertainment, my life has been affected little. That said, last nights’ show at Canvas Brewery was the first real ‘date night’ we have had for a while, although we have got back to playing bid euchre again.
We have seen a lot of “Thank-yous” issued to certain ‘front line’ workers, some even recognized tangibly, until the novelty wore off or the cost started to nibble at the bottom line.
But the people who kept on working; those who got the damn virus, got over it and just kept on trucking, have drawn little appreciation or recognition. I’m sure we all know people who have got the job done over the last two years, working short-handed and long hours. They kept the lights on, the larder filled, and the services rendered, in spite of everything.
To those people I want to extend my personal ‘thank-you’. I appreciate it all, but know it’s not over yet.
I just wonder if there is a government in this country that will admit that you are the majority and that you have been overlooked!
Trisha Pendrith says
Ray Vowel’s March 24th comment was more than misleading as it neglected to include the facts that The European Union Parliament with 705 elected members from 27 countries and a full public gallery gave Prime Minister Trudeau a standing ovation after his speech, which warned of the growing threats to democracy from some countries including Russia.
The small handful of those who protested against Trudeau were far right anti-vaccine members including, for one example a failed Croatian Presidential, far right, populist candidate who has no affiliation with any EU party.
Not much different than a minority of Canadians who have similar beliefs and ideologies. You can’t please everyone.
Personally I’m happy that our PM is working with European leaders and the EU to protect democracy.
Oliver Klimek says
In response to John Stanley:
1. there is no technical reason that an EV can’t be towed; CAA will tow an EV (confirmed this week by telephone)
2. most EV batteries will never need to be replaced (e.g. VW warrants their batteries 8 years, 160,000 km to 75% efficiency); Tesla is testing batteries that cycle over 1,000,000 km
3. if an EV battery is not efficient enough for daily use, it can be repurposed for stationary electrical storage (e.g. backup power for home use)
4. if an EV battery is damaged, it can be disassembled into modules and cells, all of which can be reused
5. in the worst case scenario, EV batteries can be fully recycled (currently between 95-99%), and the mineral elements can be used in new batteries. Lithium never dies.
Peter R. Dirks says
None of us ever counted on defending ourselfs to a sinister combination of Hitler and Stalin .
Please support the people of Ukraine ,
to help ,us much us possible ,to fight the the new thread of freedom .
Allen Markle says
Ray Vowels and John Stanley: The media can be cruel. Not our leftist CBC when dealing with the Liberal/NDP bonding, for sure. But the initial Canadian ‘oligarch’ must have been somewhat chagrined when he never got to accompany the big guy to Europe.
Even if it was just to be shown around. Maybe such an arrangement isn’t looked on so favorably at the moment.
And maybe big guy doesn’t wish to show his hand, so early in the game!
Maybe a bit of a harsh assessment, but it’s just an opinion.
John Stanley says
I see resently a lot of talk about EV`s and the climate. As most do not know is most tow companies will not tow because of there liabilities, the dealers do not want them back because of the cost to replace the batteries and then the added cost of disposal of the same batteries. These cars are going to cost more than double to dispose of them then the cost to make and buy them. Some car companys are already realizing this and have a way out. burn hydrogen and out comes water.
John Stanley says
I see on the news that the economists of canada agree that the new NDP and liberal government will have to raise taxes, not lower them as the liberals had promised. also there was a good exchange in the european parliment of 4 representitives call our PM a dictator to his face, on his visit. what the world thinks of canada now. It was a real good exchange. find it on utube
Ray Vowels says
With the reception Trudeau is getting in Europe this time he should be ashamed to even come home. I’m not sure just how many will see what he is being called over there by at least a few members of their parliament but it’s not very nice very honest but not nice. I’m going to watch the mainstream news tonight and i’m betting there will be nothing about it on any stations news. Anyone with twitter can see for themselves what he is getting over there.
John Tuttle says
Our trucks are flying the Ukrainians flag as well as our website .please join us to show support ,I’m not ukranian but would hope if Canada was under a ruthless attack that the Maple leaf would fly in other countries and small towns . These people are being killed for no reason by another Russian war criminal
Bill Spring says
Blurred Lines. That’s what this coalition is in danger of doing. The NDP and Liberals will now jointly be viewed for all that is wrong going forward to the 2025 election. The Conservatives can now focus on being the clear choice. It all hinges on who wins their leadership race. A glowing opportunity for a majority win by the conservatives. The public doesn’t like going to the polls every 2 or 3 years. Locally the Greens have a better chance now, but it will be more difficult for them to set themselves apart from the coalition, if climate change does truly become an integral part of the coalition agenda.
Allen Markle says
It took a few seconds to ferret out the difference between, what we had with the NDP supporting a Liberal government: to what we have now, with the NDP supporting a Liberal government. Can you spot the difference? It is subtle I admit.
Might I suggest that before this agreement, the NDP acted as a crutch, head firmly under an armpit, propping up the hobbling government.
Now the NDP will act more like a walking stick; head firmly wrapped in a sweaty palm and brandished as the scepter of power.
And there apparently is enough of a difference, between crutch and walking stick, that the two parties felt obligated to put this agreement to paper! For real !!!
All households have rolls of paper at hand, to deal with agreements such as this one.
Maybe politicians just feel that, with the BS they bandy about, the paper has to be written on.
I’d be happy if their dealings came at face value and didn’t need the paper.
John Oliver says
I have a comment about Huntsville Place Mall.
I remember when the Mall was first opened. What a Godsend to Huntsville, we finally got to do indoor shopping in the winter and didn’t have to drive to Orillia and Barrie to shop at an upscale store with all that section. It was all good for many years but I noticed about five years ago that stores were disappearing and not being replaced with the kind of shops that you would expect. I understand that the economy and other issues put a lot of pressure on store owners and I also understand the need for lower price options. The question I have is how many “dollar” type stores do we need? It looks like the Huntsville Place Mall is going to go the way of other small town Malls, catering to the lower end of the purchasing scale. I am glad to see that Ron Henry Jewelry is moving back to a downtown location and I hope that will be the start of the rejuvenation of Huntsville’s town centre with more shopping and eating options. Take care and be safe.
Bill Spring says
As an old guy who loses teeth on occasion, I kind of like this deal. I tend to drive in the centre lane.
John Stanley says
People: well the NDP Liberal Party are now in power. this is in place untill at least 2025. get ready for much higher taxes, and heavy decrea`s and empty pockets. Canada is now looking like a third world socialist country.
Bill Spring says
When not for profit institutions end up with a surplus of cash at budget time they make rash decisions to spend it or lose it. This would not happen in a for profit institution
jerry paris says
I many times hear people saying non profit LTC homes would be perfect.
Non profit simply means they spend what ever they can get their hands on, not that it is well spent or well managed.
For profit businesses generally are better managed and must be able to explain where resources are used.
With equal resources and the same rules the private run LTC can make profit for investors by better management not by cutting corners
Anna-Lise Kear says
Thank you Bill Spring. While I look for my notes on RNAO Queen’s Park Rally Day, I can tell you that the other 3 parties recognized the need for further investment in LTC and health care. Only the DF Conservatives stated they would accept greater federal transfer payments, but only Without conditions. All other 3 parties acknowledged that transfer payments could be acceptable With conditions.
In addition, it has only been DF’s party speaking (even obliquely) as to privatization of hospitals.
(please correct me if inaccurate- was it not Premier Frank Miller who closed down Doctor’s Hospital, Toronto as a private facility during his tenure?)
One of the calls I personally received has been about a resident contracting COVID while at ML that resulted in the person’s death after a needed hospitalization. I too knew this person and family.
My intentions have been provincial in nature from the beginning of my comments. I agree that some LTC facilities have done their best during COVID. However, that does not mean that COVID handling by the provincial Conservatives could have been better handled. That is not stated with 100% hindsight Now, but rather with observations following the first wave, and before the second.
It may be of interest to learn when ML installed Heppa (?sp?) air-filters at their facility. My source tells me in pictures, that this was not until January 2022. If so, my question, why were these not installed in the LTC facility 2 years earlier? Why did the reported vaccination rate among staff seem so low in January?
And finally, where has provincial oversight been?
Terry McCaffery says
I was in Tim’s and Bulloch’s Independent earlier today and there were quite a few customers(myself included) and staff still wearing masks! I guess we are just against our freedom-NOT!!!!
Bill Spring says
Anna-Lise
I have personnel experience with a relative in Muskoka Landing which I believe is a for-profit LTC facility. I can testify that they have done a good job through out the pandemic. I don’t begrudge them for making a profit. Instead of pointing out the short comings of the way the Conservative party oversees these facilities, why don’t you tell us how your party of choice would do a better job
Anna-Lise Kear says
“Crisis in Home Care”, Market Place, CBC https://gem.cbc.ca/media/marketplace/s49e14?cmp=GEM_cbc.ca_homepage_shelfnew
Allow me to inform you how Home Care in Muskoka used to be managed and operated, pre- Mike Harris, mandatory, open invitation to for-profit community care:
1] infrastructure for oversight required reporting to the local CCAC (this included ALL missed visits ++) by service provider agency. In Muskoka, Red Cross non-profit provided all eligible services.
2] contract management meetings with CCAC were required a minimal of 6 months and could be required any time deemed necessary by the CCAC Manager to address client or delivery concerns.
3] scheduling of visits was done locally by staff who knew the Muskoka area
4] client/family concerns were dealt with by Red Cross and reported to CCAC
5] Supervisory home visits were made by Red Cross professional nurses.
Not any more!
I dare say, the same was true for those nursing home visits by Victorian Order of Nurses.
MH move towards privatization, also pocketing from the public purse provided staff with lower wages.
During COVID, ParaMed has been able to pay its shareholders and investors.
So, once again: defund something that is working, drop the supervision and oversight = missed visits, unaccounted for and unreportable. And, benefit the for-profit sector. It also earned MH a seat on the Extended Care – Para Med board of directors.
Alert- if you wish more of the same with our hospitals under DF Conservatives – you may get what you wish for!
Allen Markle says
Bill Spring: The mask issue should be listed under ‘free dumb’ complaints. The governments made an effort to protect citizens, who in turn carried on like children.
“I and not a big brave person and will scream if you help me!”
Now premier Ford says you are on your own and and that is a victory?? It’s a mask!!
I wear a mask in my shop. To protect myself from the dust I kick up.
I use a mask when I have to work with some adhesives and reactive liquids. To protect myself from the fumes.
If I were so inclined, I could use a mask in the bank. To protect myself from identification. (I think it quite novel that I am /was ? required to wear a mask in a bank.
Or, I can still wear a mask in town. To protect Myself from the virus and pestilence spread by others. Because, mask or not the virus is still here. Protect yourselves people!
Just wish I could remember to always take one with me.
Bill Spring says
Did MikeHarris not just reverse the pendulum from the direction Bob Rae took us in?
When things go too far the one way, it seems they will end up going the other way.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Hello Mr. Gilley; I am making the assumption that the Ontario Liberals could only reverse some of the Mike Harris “Common Sense Revolution” policies by breaking the contracts made with the Conservative for-profits. I am open to correction on this point. However, the taxpayer may not have been up for more of their money used to reverse Conservative policies.
Similarly, DF Conservatives using taxpayer money to take the Carbon Tax issue to court was seen by citizens as being a waste of their money (e.g. stickers at gas pumps, blue license plates being a no-go).
Consider the deep cuts during MH Revolution to mental health care services for youth, the loss of school access to services -these too have led to real life deficiencies for parents and their children. 1 in 3 children and youth needing this care can access, the others wait up to 12-18 months for services. That is “an age” of time for a suffering child and parent who cannot afford the cost of private services.
It has only been a matter of time for the needs abandoned by the MH Conservatives to rebound exponentially. I see no difference in the DF Conservative direction = more contracts made with for-profits to prop up LTC and dividends for share holders and investors. Getting out of these contracts to move in any kind of non-profit direction is costly. In the meantime, Conservatives defund public services, wait for complaints from the public, and then open the door to more privatized funding for hospital care next. That is where our tax dollars will be spent – so for-profits can cash in to the public purse.
You don’t run a hospital, LTC facility, Home Care agency like a hotel business or private franchise. We can also count on the Conservatives to weaken oversight and required regulations. That is part of the Conservative mantra.
Bill Spring says
To equate wearing a mask to being against freedom is ridiculous. Freedom is the choice to wear one or not.
John Stanley says
Well i wonder just how many smiles i will see on Monday as the rediculas masks become voluntary. the new welcome will be i see you are against freedom if you do wear one.
George Gilley says
I get a kick reading the letters in Speak Up Huntsville. It seams that Mike Harris has been the cause of many of our problems today. Unless my memory is failing me I thought he was Premier quite a few years ago
Why didn’t the liberals fix the problems he supposedly created
Maybe they were too busy buying votes by cancelling a well advanced power station in Oakville. Cost to us over a billion dollars
Or maybe not overseeing Ornge the medical emergency transportation system. Cost ???
Or maybe screwing up the green energy system with hundreds of contracts for solar power at rediculous ongoing hydro costs
Or maybe not overseeing bloated agencies like Metrolinks and the Ontario Lottery Gamming Commission
The list goes on and on
Anna-Lise Kear says
Have a look at how well for-profits are performing in Ontario Home Care. Mike Harris Conservatives are the architects and developers of for-profit in Home Care sector. Another poor performance issue in a health care sector with for-profit origins and the typical lack of oversight and accountability from the Ontario Conservative party.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/home-care-support-private-companies-1.6387911
Vote strategically if you want change in Parry Sound Muskoka. If the disillusioned conservative voter is leaning toward the local Green party candidate as a needed alternative, I’m all in to help that to happen.
DF Conservatives have only had 38% of the popular vote – start with a change in this riding to at least attempt to ensure a minority government. For the sake of our health care system, education, and the environment now and in the future. Thank you for reading.
Allen Markle says
I know the Ukrainian people will have to barter for peace; the weight of logistics arrayed against them makes their task insurmountable. They have no air power.
They have given account of themselves using American anti-tank missiles (1/4 million dollars a pop), making a T90, the Soviet main battle tank and a brave man with a FI_FO (fire and forget) Javelin missile about even. These are brave people.
I feel angered and powerless since there is nothing I can do; apparently nothing anyone will do for fear of the nuclear threat. No one should ever trust this ogre or shake his hand
I think Russian ground capability has been exposed, from the leadership to the equipment in the field. We saw on television the 65 km traffic-jam of ordinance, arrayed along a highway. Airpower and artillery would have reduced it to a long strip of trash.
Now it seems Putin will relinquish some of his demands if the Ukrainian defense force is diminished. That should make it easier for him next time. We cannot ensure there will be no ‘next time’.
Everything that has been seized from that tyrant and his oligarchs should be liquidated and used to support the Ukraine now and to rebuild later. I feel though, that our “nation of laws” will give it all back. So the only thing lost or destroyed will be the lives! That’s diplomacy!!
And to those people who hijacked the ‘Freedom Convoy’; what we see in the Ukraine is an actual struggle for freedom. If you believe that what took place in Ottawa is comparable, then the aluminum foil hat you are wearing is letting in some silly signals.
To the people of Ukraine and your leader, may you find peace soon. And Mr. Zelensky, if you’re ever out of work, I know putin (small case on purpose) may not give you a reference, but rest assured sir, there are entire nations that will.
Anna-Lise Kear says
“Health Care, for Some of the People”, Toronto Star, March 15 by Oliviere, Hurley, & Mehra. Here it is, “Ford’s privatization agenda follows the standard playbook: Defund, Disable, Destroy. Once resource-starved public services no longer work well, respond to the public anger — then transfer ownership to private capital.
Per capita, Ontario now has the Lowest Health Care and Hospital Funding, and the Fewest Hospital Beds and Nurses of ANY province. Yet provincial revenues are $19.5 billion higher than estimated a year ago, providing plenty to spend on public services, if the ‘WILL’ were there…Worse, private hospitals come another price tag: poor care and higher death rates (this also includes higher death rates in private for-profit hemodialysis clinics).”
“Private hospitals employ fewer skilled personnel, a practice strongly associated with hospital mortality.”
” Profits trump standards of care.” Private hospitals will be paid from the public health care purse”! Are you willing to accept that?
DF is Mike Harris 2. What MH did for LTC and community care, so will DF do for hospital care. Please vote Conservatives out of power come June election. Your and your loved ones’ health and hospital care could be compromised by the DF private for-profit agenda. It’s time to go. Your vote counts. Vote strategically.
John Oliver says
It’s natural that the press will take their collective eyes off the Covid ball now that they are focusing on the conflict, or should I say war in the Ukraine . But it’s inevitable that there will be another spike in Covid cases when the spring break is over. The reality as I see it is Covid will be with us for many years and we and the various levels of government and the health care system will need to put in place the necessary protocols, rules and infrastructure to manage it. It’s been a tough two plus years for everyone especially healthcare workers. Annual Covid shots will be the new normal and those of us that care about our health and our fellow citizens health will get them. Unfortunately there will be others that will not. Hopefully we will be able to manage it. Blessings to you all.
Anna-Lise Kear says
National Post Tristin Hopper writes, “Everyone (except Ottawa) is declaring an end to the COVID 19 pandemic”. Seriously, how uninformed and trite can this reporter be! Some lag and delay is reasonable, considering the size of the country (provinces and territories) And not all are equal in their responses and illness due to COVID. Naturally, the Federal response is going to be later.
The science is still being watched over the second variant of Omicron. And, consider the March break effect. This is the second article of Hopper’s that I have read which is shallow and lacks basic understanding. But then again, for this topic she has no background in science – so of course she deems herself expert!
I keep reading the NP for worthy writing, so far the pickings are poor.
Harry Seto says
I just wanted to say goodbye to my beloved music teacher Bruce Werry at the HHS in the sixties.
John Oliver says
I agree with you completely Brenda Begg. Speak up Huntsville is a great venue for pompous folks like me to enlighten others. I do try to keep in mind that my opinions are only mine but it’s hard sometimes to admit that others are entitled to their opinions as well. LoL. It’s also very enlightening as often hearing another opinions brings a new perspective to the issue. I enjoy the dialogue and I am always ready to listen and to change my opinion. Keep the discussions and opinions going. Being able to disagree in a civil manner is refreshing and should be respected and cherished. Blessing to you all.
Brenda Begg says
Please do not “cancel” Speak Up, Huntsville! It’s a venue whereby anyone can, as advertised: thank someone in the community, get something off your chest, or just have something to say unrelated to the posted articles. I do regularly read Speak Up, Huntsville!
Allen Markle says
I will refrain from using words in this comment that could be deemed rude and disrespectful, as they would most assuredly be meant to be both.
If the Ukraine falls and its’ people subjugated, will Putin be any less a tyrant, murderer or war criminal? Will I feel that I should make allowances for any Russian pilot, tanker, artillery man who strafed, shelled or fired upon a school, hospital or grandmother’s apartment? Not (omit this word) likely!
They are all war criminals. The law stated during the Nuremberg Trials that ‘just following orders’ was and is, not a defense. We are a ‘nation of laws’, but others aren’t.
But how complicit are we in Putin’s ability to provoke and launch this attack on these people; and tangentially on our own peace? Very! if we hold pension funds or stocks in companies such as Manulife, RBC, BMO, Kinross, SNC Lavalin and others. They are all heavily invested in Russian oil. Will Putin now move against that money, just as we have frozen some assets of his oligarchs? Tit for tat.
Our own government is gleaning tax money from the sky-rocket price of filthy oil, looting its’ citizens pockets at the pumps and elsewhere. In fairness, we might all have a piece of the action.
That’s just the (word again) business world, which cares not a whit about peace or justice, or in this case, the existence of the sovereign democracy of Ukraine.
Somewhere we will have to take a stand, because will we ever be safe with this obnoxious life form still ready to attack, brutalize and bully his neighbors?
And now, there has recently been the announcement that baseball players, rich athletes, have been locked out by the team owners, even richer business men.
Big (that word as an adjective) deal!!!!
Sorry about the language, but sometimes it just fits.
Allen Markle says
To all of us who cherish our freedoms and privileges, we need only look east, to Russia and the Ukraine to see how they can be snatched away. We seem powerless to stand against the man.
To those who seem to have a lot of comments quashed, surely, by now, you must have figured out why the stuff gets the chop! To equate having a comment deleted from our local Doppler to the loss of a freedom is a bit of a reach don’t you think? If you really feel we need to know how you feel; if you think your comments are so enlightening, get together and print out a flyer.
And to Dawn Huddlestone: Can you please assure me that moisture from all those tears can’t get into my keyboard and screw up my laptop.
I’m pretty sure I’m safe. I just need reassurance.
John Stanley says
Mr vowels: I have said that many times here, and yes we do not have freedom of speech here in Canada any longer. We cannot stand on our soap box and speak our minds without some sort of censorship. Press, government, or some one just not liking what we say, but that is the premise of free speech, weather any one likes it or not we should be allowed to say it without the worry of charges. Sticks and stones my break my bones but names will never hurt me.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Bill Spring; I can imagine the attack on such as soon as I identify a replacement party.
However, if you are interested, I am visiting the Green Party Huntsville Office this afternoon (King William Str, where The Framing Place was located) to check in on their energy and weight their chances.
I repeat that I am not a card carrying member of any of the parties. Green are interested in the environment, housing, access to mental health for Ontarians. My own leanings are a bit elsewhere – but if Greens have a local chance for change in Parry Sound- Muskoka, then I am all in! They certainly carry some integrity in my book.
David Wexler says
Just out of curiosity, Doppler, I wonder how many different posters you get to this page on a regular basis. I suspect that the number is about 6 including one poster who, I think should have a regular column of their own, in the editorial section of the Doppler.
May I suggest that you cancel “SPEAK UP, HUNTSVILLE” unless/until this does become a forum for more than the 6 of us who post? The 6 can be introduced to one another via email and continue the dialogue (debate?) outside of this “news” forum.
For now, just for my peace of mind, I’m going to stop reading this column going forward.
Ah…I’m feeling better already.
Bill Spring says
If you really want to defeat the Conservatives in Muskoka, you must advocate which party to vote for, otherwise the votes against the Conservatives will continue to be split amongst the rest.
jerry paris says
anna-lise
It appears in your many political comments you want a single party that would have the standards of the green party, no oil, no gas, no mining, no forestry, build the country from there. The NDP attitude of anti business, tax any profit a business makes, add lots of worker freebees and dare them to try in stay in business.
You also want the Liberal tax and spend attitude to be pushed to the last dollar.
You do not remember the liberals who running the province had money for everything but the large number of LTC homes they demand from opposition. What about the huge jump in electric rates under the libs.
You seem old enough to have weathered Bob Rae days of almost bankrupting the province and promoting unions.
I will not only look a party policies but how well they have followed previous promises.
I do not make up my mind before it is time to vote.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Stanley, thank you for the feedback about what I have written, I will be clearer.
No, I am not advocating an additional party be established.
I had opportunity to watch and listen (virtually) to the 4 party leaders on Queens Park Day respond to the RNAO platform proposals (climate change, housing, nursing resources, care delivery and fiscal capacity).
Based upon what was said, I would vote for any other party but the Conservatives – take your choice.
I found their responses wanting. When I consider their leadership and policy performance during COVID and keep an eye on the horizon of more for-profit invitations to health care and LTC, it is easy to connect the dots with the Mike Harris years of governance.
What kind of business person does not collect revenues owed to his/her company? How long would DF’s business last if his company did not collect revenues owed? Not long. The promise give away of a billion dollars in collected license renewal fees – what can this portend? My natural conclusion is to sell off/give away more of publicly owned – property, services, programs. He will claim that the budget can’t be balanced if programs, services, public health care, public education, and any climate change initiatives are not sold off. We saw this during the MH years.
Last question: How well did the for-profit LTC facilities perform by comparison with their non-profit facilities during COVID? Very poorly. For-profit run businesses in health care does not mean they are better managed – that is the fallacy that continues to dog the Conservatives. For-profits have to please their share holders and investors – there are times when residents, families, staff, and volunteers have to take more than a back seat to any improvements in care and service.
My bold advice to voters is to check out the policy platforms of each party. Then determine which party is best positioned to defeat the Conservative government in Parry Sound-Muskoka. Thanks for reading.
John Oliver says
Anna Lise, I know you and I know where your heart is and I admire your passion. Keep up the good fight. All the best to your and your family. Blessings
John Stanley says
anna: from what i read in one of your posts you are advocating we need a change from the 4 parties most people know off, that sounds to me you are recommending THE NEW BLUE PARTY.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Wow! National Post article this morning, Tristan Hoper: “First Reading: Oh, look, nobody cares about COVID anymore”. Besides the dripping sarcasm, this light take on COVID denies lives lost, healthcare workers who have left their jobs, health disparities across the Province, etc. The implication is that government responses were a “tempest in a teapot”. How out of touch can they be?
What we are left with from the Post is harping on the political divide (yes, very real) and the implication that the science does not matter in a public health emergency. A “lets move on and pretend it didn’t happen”.
What are/were the lessons learned?
Anna-Lise Kear says
Thank you John Oliver for your comments and memories of that time. Community building and capacity building are similar. As a retired nurse and associated with RNAO for almost 50 years, I have watched with interest the capability of Provincial political leadership to build a sense of community, especially in a time of urgency or crisis. As noted, I have shared my observations several times on Doppler. I don’t take it for granted that people will read what I post or agree with me.
However, there have been people in our community who have phoned or emailed me with their perceptions about healthcare. LTC, etc.. They have shared personal, sometimes heartbreaking examples which worry them greatly about increased large for-profit trend in home and facility care. I count myself very fortunate that these people can reach out to me with their concerns. So my limited experience is that it is not just nurses in the RNAO that advocate for Ontario citizens around these issues, but indeed local people themselves are impetus for some of what I write. In Parry Sound-Muskoka, we need a change in governing party and MPP – having listened to the related health platforms of all 4 parties.
Mike Talbot says
It’s comforting to see that there are so many political experts in Huntsville, and so many people living here that are familiar with the six-thousand year political and cultural history of the region between the Black Sea and the Caspian (Khazar) Sea. (And now you know where to find it on a map. Maybe start there.)
John Oliver says
Good comments Mr. Markle.
I have always put opinions into the bellybutton and bums category, we all have them. Just because you have one it doesn’t mean that anybody else will agree with you. If you are willing to give one, accept the fact that not everyone will praise you or agree with you. Most people form opinions based on a combination of personal experiences and knowledge of the subject, but those influences alone may not jive with yours as their experiences and knowledge is different. Take care and let’s all pray for cool heads in this crazy world we find ourselves sharing.
Allen Markle says
John Stanley: Offering up an opinion on Doppler comes with no promise of response. We make these comments, maybe just as an outlet for the ideas that run through our minds. A response may give an ego a bit of a buzz, but it’s not necessary, so we’ve lost nothing if no one seems interested.
You do seem to be of the opinion that if one might hold a view that differs from your own, then they ‘just don’t get it’. Not so. We may just not agree. Rejection can be harsh.
And others do and have offered opinions and views on the disaster in the Ukraine. We read both the local high brow and other stuff as well, so someone may have noticed your post.
Maybe they just accepted it as a comment ,but didn’t feel it needed a reply.
Chin up!
Thomas R Spivak says
“Never tell a fool that he is a fool. All you’ll have is an angry fool.” —Talmud
John Oliver says
To Anna Lise Kear. My thoughts about building community take me back to our St. John’s’ on Ravenscliffe Rd. days. Today is Shrove Tuesday and I remember Rev. Gail Marie, Jeff, Barb and John and Donna and I making the pancake supper at the church. We used real pancake batter and real maple syrup and real sausages in an effort to build community. But alas, the community that once was had disappeared and Ravenscliffe had become just a road. Bringing a community together was just a dream. They didn’t need cheap beer, they needed hope for their children, a good paying job and friends and family to get them through the hard times. Let’s hope that the difficulties of the past couple of years can be forgotten and let’s all pray for the people of Ukraine and for peace in the world.
John Stanley says
People: I have noticed the no one has anything to say about my posts lately. I guess the war in Ukraine is just not important enough for the high brows in huntsville to bother with. shame on you`s
Anna-Lise Kear says
Wondering Where……?
Where is the Ford plan for the endemic phase of COVID?
Is there even a recognition of an endemic phase by DF?
Where is/was the “iron wall” built around LTC?
Where is/was “buck-a-beer” sold?
Answer: there wasn’t one; there isn’t one.
DF leadership does not build “community”.
Allen Markle says
Has anyone had the need to use the new cross-walk lights at Yonge Street in the West end of town? When the lights were installed, Tricia mentioned to me it was a weird set-up. Since I never use that sidewalk, it held little interest until recently. A couple of times now I have waited to let people cross and wondered why they didn’t use the lights. Today I stopped and looked.
Coming from town, walking the sidewalk, you should, if sprightly enough, be able to activate the switch and cross diagonally to the sidewalk on Yonge S.
Walking toward town, you cross Yonge N. and then cut diagonally across Main to get to the sidewalk on Yonge street S. As long as you know where the light activation button is. It is not too visible from that direction.
It is when you want to cross from the Yonge S. to the sidewalk on Main that the fun begins. From the bottom of Yonge, it you know where to look, you can spot the activation button, peeking from behind the pole on the other side of the street: which you will have to cross, with your back to traffic travelling toward town on Main, or across the path of cars sliding down the hill on your right.
Then you have to negotiate a snowbank, somewhat akin to the west face of Everest, or at least with enough snow and ice to be a fine training site for the Iditarod.
This may be a bit of an exaggeration, but I don’t think by much. Have a look. Better yet, give it a try.
But, ‘be careful out there.’
John Stanley says
With what is now happening, why is Canada still buying Russian oil. The west has enough oil for all of our needs and then some. The feds need to build the pipeline from Alberta to New Brunswick and tell Quebec to bad it is a federal deal for all of Canada`s prosperity. Also stop buying middle eastern oil as well. We are going to need this resource for a long tine to come to allow the sience to catch up to heat and power our homes.
John Oliver says
Having worked is Russia I have fond and warm feelings for the Russian people but not for the Russian government. As with all conflicts it’s the people that suffer, normal hard working folks like you and me. When I was there I had many instances of people asking me for help in getting out of the country. Their economy was a mess, they were not getting paid but still had to work. I fear that Russia will return to those times as restrictions will cripple their economy again and as per normal it will be the average hard working little guy that will pay the price. Hopefully there will be enough outrage that Putin and his corrupt party will be overthrown. My prayers are with the Ukrainian and Russian people as they will be the ones suffering the hardships in the aftermath of this despicable action.
Thomas R Spivak says
My thoughts exactly Mr. Rae, never should have been displayed to begin with.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Care to know what nurses in the province are up to? Yesterday, attended (virtually) Queen’s Park Day with the RNAO. 4 party leaders presented their responses to the RNAO – 5 point Platform on Public Health policy for the Environment, Social Determinants (housing), Nursing (human resources & education), Care Delivery & Fiscal Capacity.
All parties But the Conservatives would accept increased federal transfer payments with conditions attached. Conservative response (Ford, Elliott, Calandra) — gosh folks, father knows best.
Conservatives remain on the same train, running down the same track: decrease Provincial revenues by failure to collect such things as fees for license plate stickers (a billion dollars), penalties from corporate owners of toll hwys, fines from large LTC facilities who continuously do not meet regulated standards, tax from carbon emissions, and of course, fair taxation.
Next step, claim the budget cannot be balanced as justification to cut services, programs and sell/give health care, education, and the environment to the for-profit sector. Count on the fact that innovative care delivery service was and is nowhere to be seen.
Conclusion: vote AOP (any other party). Thank you for reading.
Brenda Begg says
Ken Rae: I second it. Remove the Russian flag. NOW.
Ken Rae says
I propose that the town should ( permanently ) take down the Russian flag for the G 8 and in it’s place, fly the Ukrainian flag at half mast to show our support for their cause and for democracy.
Thomas R Spivak says
The eyes are useless when the mind is blind.
If you choose to push others to believe, to see, to act upon your own narrow vision of the truth you eventually earn no respect from others and and will be forced to spend your days in frustration, solitude, and anger.
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt”
Abraham Lincoln
Allen Markle says
After weeks, months of lying and posturing, a callous and manic dictator unleashed the logistics of a world power upon a nation slightly larger than Canada. Forty million people who wanted only to look after their families and get on with their day, had any semblance of peace or right or freedom ripped away.
The recent carryings on in our country pale in comparison.
This dictator has done the same before and will likely do it again. Other like villains impose their will on populations, who have little or no chance of escape. The ability of the world to control or mitigate the actions of these people, is limited or non existent; except with an unconscionable act.
I don’t imagine that the Russian people are happy with this brutality, but what can they do?
Vladimir Putin, by his actions is a bully and an evil man.
I was taught to never wish ill on anyone, but I think today I made an exception.
Unfortunately, it’s the most I can do.
May the Ukrainian people have peace.
Patricia Snell says
My family are active users of our wonderful Huntsville Library services. I was just told by library staff that when Ontario lifts restrictions on March 1 the Huntsville Library will continue to remain closed on Sundays.
Why would this be? Are there budget restrictions? Staff shortages? What are the issues?
Surely the library should be open on both days of the weekend?
Thank you for any light you can shed on this.
jerry paris says
Hugh, In a column you wonder what has become of Canadians.
We have become tired of politicians who have two sets of rules, one for them, one for the rest of us.
A prime minister who lectured Modi about meeting and talking with protesters, then in the same place, he runs and hides, unwilling to meet with those of the lower class,
He says those who wear black face should be fired or resign unless your name is Trudeau
He uses laws, makes them retro active, so that a grandmother donating 25 dollars or a single mother donating 50 dollars when it was legal are now major criminals with financial resources frozen. Others are having all finances frozen, then told to hire a lawyer.
Donate to the liberal party, get a tax receipt and a request for more, while supporting any thing else in the future could get you arrested,
Just wait until C-11 gets passed with NDP assist, and Trudeau appointed people can control internet TV and eventually print media.
Once that bill goes through, anything that does not praise the liberals can be classed as hate mail. It is to be illegal to criticize government employees when they screw up.
During the last Us election the face book and other streaming media did the censoring for the democrats they did not need a federal law.
When things like this occur time after time people get upset.
John Stanley says
Mr. Markle: sir you totally missed the mark of the post. Domestic terrorisum.
Allen Markle says
John Stanley: That statement about the winners being the recorders of history should really be subjected to scrutiny don’t you think. In the distant past it was difficult for the ‘loser’ to present their side of the story, as they were either deceased, or about to become so.
In more recent times we have the stories of lots of loses and losers. The cost of being vanquished from the battlefield, or the business and political world no longer being so severe as in the past. Today it’s generally the money and not the life they are after.
Your stating that you have read literature on the Vietnam War, from both perspectives, is a fine example of the views of the loser as well as the winner being recorded.
Welcome to Canada, however belatedly and stay safe.
John Stanley says
Mr. Markle: Just who writes history? The winners! just read the 2 versions of the vietnam war, U.S.A. version or the veitnam version. two totally different writings. And the same will happen with the Trudy government and the protesters, Oh! pardon me the terrorists.
Allen Markle says
John Oliver: Quoting famous people might be more safely done after a few moments introspection. Abraham Lincoln also suspended a number of America’s civil liberties. The stakes were somewhat greater when he did it , but he did it never the less.
Parking your ponies on his lawn and blocking his way to the office could have landed one in more trouble, and trouble of more serious consequence than having your wagon drawn away.
We could use a few more ‘Lincolns’.
Just an opinion.
jerry paris says
Has anyone noticed a rush to the pipe line site out west, where twenty or so axe wielding people smashed vehicles and equipment.
It has been reported that these individuals tried to burn a vehicle containing people.
No mention of police rushing out to catch the perps. This can make sense to our PM for this is not anti Trudeau, its anti oil, part of his agenda and therefore does not count.
only what happens in Ottawa counts, the rest of the country especially the west does not matter, just send your transfer payments for Quebec.
John Oliver says
The debate on Doppler about the truckers protest and the emergency measures act reminds me of the old saying, “ it’s better to say silent and seem a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”.
John Stanley says
To all: What is the Trudeau emergencies act doing about the domestic terrorisum in Huston, BC. I expect nothing. And the MSM says nothing also.
Allen Markle says
Is anybody else having trouble sifting through the happenings of the last month, because it is difficult to rationalize some of it, even if you really try.
It seems there was a ‘request’ by the group representing a ‘freedom convoy’, that the government step aside and allow the business of state to be conducted by them; at least until things were put straight. Then the power would be returned to the elected. Sort of an “Excuse Me ” revolution! How polite do we Canadians seem?
If all overthrows could be so simple. Generally there are AK47s, machetes, women and children harassed: but in Canada?….. seemed like it was worth a shot. To just ask.
And there were obviously some politicos who thought it might work (we have the audio: we have the video); they seem to have sided with the riff-raff. Others pondered a while. Then….. wait a minute!!!
And try to explain a police chief who was totally unprepared for it all; even though it had been announced that the mob was coming, then, that it was on its’ way and finally, it was there. Hard to find him the only person at fault, but still, couldn’t he have asked for suggestions?
It will be quite a mess to sort out; the police will be closely scrutinized, and the rights of the radicals protected in this “nation of laws.”
And in the end it is the truth that becomes elusive; everyone claiming they know what it is and that those with a different opinion ‘don’t get it’. We see that from time to time here on Doppler.
‘Rather than love, money or fame, give me truth’. Somebody made such a comment. The judge sitting listening to the statements from people in the dock during the hearings of the last few days, must have been praying for that to come to pass.
I’m sure there are more amazing revelations to come and wonder what of it we will be able to believe. But I guess we will pick out what we feel is reasonable, understanding that it would be too damn hard to make a lot of this stuff up!!
Oh Canada!
John Stanley says
Sir: no need to move to the USA, I am an aussie, and it is well known that we are true fighters not mambe pambies.
Edward Butikofer says
I am disapointed with Conservatives reaction to our Freedom Problem. Complain that Trudo did not meeet. Do they realy belive anything good could have come out of such a meeting. The protsters were not willing to discuse but to demand. You know that you are Dammed if you do and Dammed if you dont.
John Stanley says
Now that the Ottawa streets are clear watch the tyranical Trudeau government start to weld more and more powers just to stay in power. Did the gov need to invoke the emergency act, i do not think so, but as banks freeze accounts and we cannot gather at a whim of any gov. from the feds to municipal. what will the left say when they come for you also. i hope most of you have noticed the new gov commercial to take all guns, the commercial is played about 4 times a hour. It has started people. The next government pressure will be climate change. Be prepared.
Thomas R Spivak says
Thank you Anna.
What a shame that Mr. Stanley and Mr. Paris are the only ones that get it.
I would suggest that Perhaps Mr. Stanley move to the USA where he won’t be subjected to tyranny. Still waiting on that data Mr. Stanley.
Peter R. Dirks says
I could not have put our problem in a better perspective than Sally Barnes did in the “Commentary ” section!
I came to Canada in 1956 ,to a peaceful country , saved from eating grass to survive . Being 17 years old at the time, I worked for 50c an hour and was happy . I am now wondering where our Country is going into the future . Please think of the consequences of your action before you get yourself into trouble .
I am still glad that we live in a Democracy !
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Paris and Mr. Stanley; last time I looked Ottawa was in the Province of Ontario. DF declared a state of Emergency in Ontario. Why did he not look after the citizens of Ottawa in the face of the protest lockdown to their city, their lives, their businesses and livelihoods? He looked after those in Windsor? Why not Ottawa too?
I would be as bold as to suggest that had DF used his Emergency powers to deal swiftly with Ottawa trucker protests as his jurisdiction, JT would not have had to declare the Emergency Act in place of the inaction of DF government. Just a thought to consider.
John Stanley says
Mr. Paris: Finally someone other than me that does get it. I am sure there are a lot of us out there but because of fear of not complying with mandates. They are now starting to wake up and see, not alone smell the roses as to government tyrany.
jerry paris says
We now have justin and his cabinet putting the emergency bill into place, not parliament. not the courts.
If I donated a dollar to the convoy in its early days, as a protest against inflation, or high fuel costs, or the four levels of taxes on oil products I could now find my bank accounts frozen plus licences and insurance gone.
Justin only wants to meet with groups like black lives matter or any one for love ins,
He lectured Modi of India to meet and talk with protests, rules for Modi but not for him.
As Canadians the emergency bill means we can not even stand together any where to protest his inaction on any front.
Once the NDP help him to pass bill C-11 gets passed justin will be able by means off his appointed people prevent even print media that he does not approve of from being seen.
Allen Markle says
It seems absurd to me that a group of unemployed people can announce that they are on their way to Ottawa as a ‘freedom convoy’, park downtown, and the better part of a month later, still have the city hostage and only now being dislodged.
Might I suggest that when the next disruption is announced, all cities be prepared to use the laws at hand. When the next truck sets its brakes to block a street, may the driver have a bag over their head and a dart in their buttocks, before the heat even begins to tick from the engine.
To say this demonstration is for our freedom is ludicrous; I’ve got uncles, great uncles, cousins and a father-in-law who fought for freedom; sometimes it was to pull down the very flag that this rabble waves in our capitol.
We have young men from our town who are in service and will go where our government asks them; to preserve peace and freedom, yet we have this demonstration at home. Freedom of expression, yes, but not at the expense of other people’s freedom. Find a better way.
Most of what I’ve seen are people who are not working, not for the past month anyway, and some of the vans there, are not cross-border rigs anyway. The mandates are an excuse only.
Generally, people will go to great lengths to protect their family, but amongst that rabble we see little children. People of my age can remember hearing of, or watching film of wars in foreign lands, where women and children were marched in front of invading troops as a human shield. We couldn’t believe of that happening and I can’t imagine the parent who would knowingly place their child in harms way.
This is not a convoy for freedom. By no stretch of imagination.
John Stanley says
Oh by the way people I am NOT a anti vaxer, i have had a lot of different vaccines. but i am against the mRNA so called vaccine.
John Stanley says
Again i say that it is no use talking to those people. They just do not get it
Anna-Lise Kear says
Thanks Barbara Armstrong for posting the terrible reality for the woman you mention. There is little that can be said to anti-vaxxers that will have an impact for change. Unfortunately for some, it will take COVID arriving at their doorstep for reality to be accepted. I certainly don’t wish that for anyone.
Give thanks for our health care workers who do their best to care for all who come through the hospital doors.
Barbara Armstrong says
One of my workers refused to get any vaccines for Covid. She said it had nothing to do with religious reasons, she simply stated she saw no reason to get ‘the flu shot’ and saw no reason to get a Covid vaccine because it was just another kind of flu virus. Her family are all vaccinated and taking the necessary precautions. All my workers work from home and their work is quarantined for three days prior to sale, as a precaution, and will be until I deem it safe. I was fine with her not being vaccinated. I worried about her though.
January 1st, 2022, she contracted Covid’s Omicron variant. She texted me that it sure didn’t feel like ‘just a flu’. A week later she texted me that she was taken to the hospital that morning because she was having a lot of trouble breathing. A few days later she texted me that she was terrified because the doctors were explaining to her what would happen if she needed to put in an induced coma and be put on a ventilator. She was alone and scared out of her wits. No one could visit her, hold her hand, and her inability to draw a decent breath of air was both painful and difficult.
She texted it was: “not just regular pain, and not just ‘hard’, I’m talking truck on your chest kinda pain and breathing through wet wool blankets and feeling like there’s no air coming in, it’s like drowning” so she couldn’t even talk to her family on the phone nor to anyone else. She begged me to get my booster shot (I’d already had it), wear a mask, and to tell all my friends that it is not ‘just the flu’ and she wished she’d “been smart enough to get vaccinated”. And, then, there were no more texts. I don’t have the phone number for anyone in her family.
She may not make it. I’m waiting for “that text”. The one I’ll get If she does, somehow, miraculously recover enough to get out of ICU. From that point on though, she will suffer from “long haul Covid” and have about a year of recovery to look forward to, but at least she’ll be alive.
I remember when she used to joke about people who said they’d had Covid for 3 and 4 weeks and how awful they felt for months afterwards. She mocked them, suggesting they ‘suck it up buttercup’ because she could work through anything. Turns out not everyone is lucky enough to be asymptomatic or get a light case of Covid. She escaped 2020’s original version of Covid and she dodged the bullet of the Delta variant, but not Omicron.
If you’re lucky enough to have the kind of immune system that can protect you through anything, I’m very happy for you. You are indeed very lucky and I hope you appreciate that good fortune. Not everyone can waltz through life without something very damaging happening to them at some point, though. I’m happy for you if you can. But please, bear in mind, while you and your heightened immune systems are parading around ‘mocking’ less protected people, bitching about mandates, masks and restrictions, you are spreading an illness that may kill someone you don’t know and have never met. And it may eventually catch up with you.
We all know the world was ripe for this pandemic and we also know we could have done a lot more to stop it – but because of the stupidity and stubborn righteousness of a few people, many others (including the stupid and stubborn and religious and righteous) suffered, and millions of people needlessly died. No, it isn’t as bad as the Spanish Flu – yet. Yes, people die all the time (cancer, murder, old age, etc., etc.). But I suggest to you, when our (or any) government provides FREE health care and FREE preventative solutions for a crisis we should all take advantage of it – remember you are not invincible. No one is. “You” will need the people you are mocking, the health services and professionals, that you are mocking, long before “they” will ever need you. They won’t knock on your door if they are having a heart attack, get a broken bone, or end up with Covid…. but you’ll want to knock on theirs. The Government won’t come asking you for money if they loose ‘their job’ – but you will want their money if you loose yours, or retire, or get sick and want to see a doctor (OHIP).
If you don’t want to take advantage of FREE vaccines and follow a few, very simple methods of prevention in a crisis – that’s your ‘problem’ and ‘your right’. BUT, Do Not Try to Stop us from taking care of ourselves as best we can – by limiting people in our stores, restaurants, gyms, etc., by asking you to wear a mask, by suggesting you stay home and away from us when you know you are sick. Do not mock us.
‘We’ [the vaccinated, masked, hand washing majority] still let you into our hospitals – FREE of Charge while we get our cancer treatments delayed, elective surgeries postponed, and loose our doctors to Covid. ‘We let you’ exhaust our medical workers – FREE of charge – and did you think for a minute, to thank them, offer to buy them a dinner, loan them your vacation home for a well-deserved rest? ‘We’ take care of you – How about you respect us and not keep mouthing off about how stupid we are for getting a life saving vaccine, wearing our masks, and trying to lower the spread of a deadly virus.
I know one day I’ll die. But in the mean time, I’m trying to take care of myself and my family. I will do whatever that takes, that includes getting vaccines, masking up, and washing my hands after touching something ‘you’ may have sneezed or coughed on.
It’s not “just the flu”.
John Stanley says
Mr. Spivik: they say that there are no figures for the flue 2019, but heart desease alone killed over 53,000. now how about cancer, and every other desease as well as old age. We all die but a lot of baby boomers do not want to admit it and are scared to even say it. As a war time baby i even remember tokens for food, TB, iron lungs, so covid is not that scary, and with proper food and health life is good.
Thomas R Spivak says
Mister Stanley, if you can support your assertation that this is just the flu, please show me varifiable data to support it.
I can’t seem to find any instance of common flu having killed 12,000 Ontarian’s in just two years in my searching.
I vowed to myself not to respond to your rediculous comments any more but you are just so wrong about this.
I anxiously await your supporting data.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Stay well, Mr. Stanley.
John Stanley says
Anna: as a senior (over 80) and no vax it is time to wake up and treat this as just another flue and get back to our lives, not as a fear factor.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Stanley, if the estimate of fully vaccinated people (2 shots + booster) is @ 58% of the Ontario population (est. 60% of staff in local LTC facility) is accurate, some may question the advisability of dropping Vaccine passports.
Seniors and those with immunocompromised conditions will need to continue to vigilantly protect themselves by all means possible.
Also, it will be interesting to see how local Public Health Units respond, as some decision-making has been returned to them for local response.
John Stanley says
Finally: My opinion only, but i think most businesses will open 1 march 22 and let All customers in to enjoy shopping, eating or just browsing without the harassment of the QR passports. They have suffered enough. there bottom line is what it takes to stay open. vaccinated or not.
Allen Markle says
Well said Thomas Spivak. There is no ‘right’ or ‘priviledge’ this lot of unemployed rabble can give me that other, braver people have not given me already.
I say unemployed because they are likely doing nothing but parking illegally and drawing govt. money.
Simply a bunch of vandals, bullying a city that no govt. seems to want to take the responsibility of helping. Ford cleared a bridge, that’s a start, but there was also big money involved.
Am waiting to see who will rescue our ordinary citizens.
John Oliver says
To Charles Clark, I think the logic is quite simple and I would be happy to explain it to you, but if you don’t get it now then I doubt that you will get it even after you hear the explanation. I assume you have been vaccinated and wear a mask to protect yourself and your family…
Thomas R Spivak says
Perhaps I can shed some light on Mr. Clarks question, Because long distance truckers travel to many different areas of the USA where there is a number of different rules regarding vaccination, masks, and general attitude toward the current pandemic it puts them as a group at risk for contracting or transmitting the virus.
Don’t get me wrong, how the rules during the pandemic were applied were not united, unfair to some, and sometimes just plain stupid.
That’s pretty simple, however with our government leaders in all the parties and within themselves not being on the same page at anytime and the Feds as usual handling this on a too little too late basis we now have a number of people feeling slighted.
Now just so its clear, truck drivers cannot enter the USA if they are Canadian without proof of vaccination , that’s the USA rule, so if you can’t leave then coming back shouldn’t be a concern. If you are a Canadian trucker that by whatever means ended up on the south side of the border you cannot be refused entry because as a Canadian National you always have the right to come home. Having said that you may have to quarantine.
So, once again this protest on the basis of trucker vaccination is BS.
What this is about, it seems to me, is that these individuals are tired of the other mandates and are using trucks, cars, and human blockades to be bullies and force everyone else to throw in the towel because these babies are tired of the pandemic. Well guess what gang, we all are, but this is not the time to throw caution to the wind.
My son’s office is owed by a company with unique religious beliefs and they have never practiced a covid 19 prevention strategy, my son is fully vaccinated and after two years of protesting this behavior is now positive for covid, very, very ill, missing work, money, and the company will behind on work because of this.
Why should he have had to go through this because of the selfishness of others?
Its not their right to defy these rules anymore than its my right not to stop at a red light, wear a seatbelt, obey a speed limit, not spit in a hospital, or trip elderly people when they walk by.
What’s the difference? You endanger others and cause problems on the whole.
There are people that are not getting treatment for conditions right now because hospitals can’t handle the extra demands.
They have to wear a mask or social distance? Tough Sh*t as far as I’m concerned. Why don’t these people come over here and take care of my family when they are sick?
As a parent, and I don’t care how old my kids are, they are the most important thing on this earth to me and I will always protect them. Anyone got an argument with that contact me and we can talk that over further.
All these self centered babies that have too much time on their hands need to go home and cry on their pillows.
If a tiny minority want to change the rules for the majority then they should all get together, publish their names, addresses publicly?
How brave are they?
Charles Clark says
Since the start of the pandemic some two and a half years ago, truckers were considered to be essential workers crossing the border without vaccine checks. Now they have to be vaccinated. Can anyone explain the logic of that recent decision by the government?
John Stanley says
to David Wexler: you hit the nail on the head that time bud. it seems that a lot more left is allowed than right sorry to say.
David Wexler says
I wonder if it would make sense to publish in this column the “Community Guidelines “ that commenters are supposed to abide by? It strikes me that all too often, one or more contributors go after individuals and/or topics not at all covered by the Doppler, with seemingly zero editorial oversight being provided by this newspaper, which is a shame.
Lesley Hastie says
I’d like to see Anna Lise Keri running for office, as a Huntsville Councillor in November.
William Long says
Having not read the Doppler for sometime, I am happy to see the voice of reason prevailing in the name of Anna-Lise Kear. Excellent writing and an interesting point of view. I will be reading the Doppler more often. Thank you.
John Stanley says
anna lise: and my image of the lib government is “my way or the hyway”
Anna-Lise Kear says
My image of the average trucker protestor is of a three year old, hands on hips, shouting “you’re not the boss of me” to his/her parent – temper tantrum and all.
Hopefully science curriculum at all levels in education can be augmented, in post-pandemic world.
Canada is handling this well, carefully.
John Stanley says
to Chase Clarke:. talk about jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
David Caswell says
As I listen to the retoric from the left and right of our various commentators I wonder if it is possible to be a supporter of womens rights and a supporter of right to life. I wonder if you can have liberal views and not support euphanasia.
Maybe because I am old I have a great appreciation for life. I have friends who tell me they were the result of a mistake. But they don’t care they are happy to be alive.
Maybe I am worried that as I age I will need care and someone will say your time is up.
I believe I am progressive with some ideas, and conservative in others. Is it impossible to support both concepts at the same time.
It seems you can not based on liberal commentators
Sophia Marshall says
Thank you, friends, family, teachers, community, Huntsville Doppler, Huntsville Forester and local sponsors, for your support for Sophia Marshall’s Europe racing tour.
Many thanks!
Pat Crawford says
CONGRATULATIONS to the festival. Of the arts for arranging thr Snow Village in River mill Park.
It was an absolute delight to watch the children and their parents having a wonderful time with this event. It was a lot of work for a lot of people but a job well done and appreciated by many.
George Kitching says
Does anyone know why the Church bells and music has stopped from St. Andrews? Please advise.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Some good news! It is my understanding that the Trudeau government has moved to re-establish the National position of Chief Nursing Officer of Canada, which previous governments abandoned.
This demonstrates, at the very least, acknowledgment and respect for the vital profession of nursing in this country. Bravo!
Chas Clark says
Perhaps you should retire Hugh and and over the Doppler to Anna-Lisa Kear!
Anna-Lise Kear says
If you read the National Post, I suggest you not rely on the health science information contained there. It is unreliable at best, often astoundingly ignorant. Their detail and big picture health science viewpoints can be misleading.
This pandemic was going to last 3-4 years at least, from the beginning. Wars have lasted as long and then some. Viewing the pandemic common enemy as the virus, declaring war on the virus, not one another and acting as a unified, consensus-building population accepting the best measures possible from the get-go could have been far healthier to our society and fast-tracked an ending of some restrictive measures.
Please pardon my restating the obvious for some.
It takes leadership to bring about that unification., acceptance of emergency measures, and following the sciences of virology, epidemiology, medical research, social behaviour, and excellent communication skills.
Anna-Lise Kear says
In an open letter to Premier Doug Ford (January 5, 2022) from the RNAO: “A health system on the verge of total collapse”. The measures proposed in this open letter should have commenced after Wave 1 and before Wave 2. Hope you can copy and paste, here is the link: https://rnao.ca/news/media-releases/re-a-health-system-on-the-verge-of-total-collapse
This has certainly hit our town’s LTC sector.
John Stanley says
all: they say that 90%of the truckers are vaxed. my question is the how many of the INDEPENDENT truckers are vaxed.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Wow, Conservative MP stands with the trucker protest in front of a Nazi Swastika. The trucker protest against mandates to protect public health was bound to be hi-jacked by more extreme views, unfortunately. (remember @ 90% of truck drivers have used their critical thinking skills and become vaccinated).
As Canadians, we must speak up about the hate of Nazism today, every day, and not turn a blind eye.
There is a strong historical connection between the Canada West’s Social Credit-Reform-Manning/Harper Conservatives and fundamentalist evangelicals. Rugged individualism versus the common good; these should be balanced and need not be polarized – but in our times have become so.
What is taking place in Ottawa appears on its surface as sheep following a simple ideology, without thinking. I hope all Canadians stay strong against anti-Semitism rhetoric and hate.
John Stanley says
Since the club 55 is to be closed down, will the much needed washrooms be retained.
Anna-Lise Kear says
This week I have heard from local people about happenings in Huntsville LTC. I have passed along important information to the appropriate people and will continue to do so.
In a nutshell, the reporting we read in the Toronto Star and I hear about through the RNAO (Registered Nurses Association) reflects the reality of an imploding public system of healthcare. This is not Just under the weight of COVID and variant, but under the Poor performance of the DF Conservative government. The for-profits are doing better, as they vacuum up staff from the public sector, OR the staff leave altogether in exhaustion.
In short, the issues relate to health care staff recruitment, retention, and wage differences – our seniors and people with disabilities in LTC are put at additional risk because of the delayed and insufficient action of Conservative provincial leadership. What is not visible to Huntsville citizens, let alone others in the Province, is oversight to vaccination requirements for all staff (contractors, visitors, etc.). A staff – full vaccination rate of 60% is poor.
Finally, please remember that there are legislated regulations to allow for complaints (both in LTC, home care, and privately owned retirement homes). LTC complaint process can be found on the MOHLTC website. Urgent complaints: 1-866-434-0144 (8:30 am. – 7:00 pm., 7 days a week).
I urge you to speak up to the Ministry on behalf of LTC residents and their families. Speak up to the Ministry for the LTC staff, those who this government claims to value. Speak up for our health care system in the upcoming election by voting AOP (any other party). Be informed, look at the party platforms. This current version of the Conservative party is not progressive. Nothing will change unless there is a sustained change in provincial governance to increase the value we all place on our public system. This is Not fear-mongering – it is our reality. Talk to any health care worker!
John Oliver says
Thank you Anna-Lise. My many years living and working in Huntsville and the many friends that I acquired along the way will always be remembered fondly. In many ways Huntsville was a challenge as well as a joy. In the early, not so long ago days, I remember when the town closed down for winter. Many of the stores closed as there was no winter tourists to cater to. Things started to open up in the early 1960’s when Hidden Valley opened the first ski slopes with a chair lift and the snowmobile became popular. We had a cottage on Bay Lake that my farther and I built and I remember having to dig a trail through the snow from the road to the lake as the road around the lake was not plowed and loading the supplies onto a toboggan and hauling it across the lake. That was the start of Huntsville as we know it today. Over the next few years the town grew as the summer cottages changed from seasonal to multi seasonal dwellings. That was when my wife and I decided to move North to Huntsville as did many others. We were not affluent, just two young hippies that wanted to get out of the city. Now, I read the dialogue that goes back and forth on Doppler and wonder were did that dream go? The simple summer cottage has been replaced with multi million dollar lake side homes. Country roads are now congested highways and folks can’t seem to get along. The city with its congestion, politics, crime and all the other associated issues have slowly transformed Huntsville. I will return to Huntsville one day to visit old friends. Until then please remember that you live in God’s country. My thoughts are with you all, be safe. Namaste
John Stanley says
to Anna lise. From you post about do not vote PC. I get the impression that you would want a socialist or totally lib-left gov. May the good lord help us if that was to pass.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Today’s National Post, reporter Chris Selley writes, “Canadians feel smug about their healthcare system right until they need it” (January 27, 2022).
Let me share with you that since graduating from nursing at U of T in 1972, the last thing I have ever felt is “smugness” about our health care system. I have lived through many iterations of health care and our health care system in Ontario.
This is what I have learned, briefly:
1] health care delivery is not messy, it is a composite of a few different sources
2] when there is a composite, keeping those sources in balance is essential (e.g. non-profit – for-profit)
3] in Ontario, under Mike Harris, that balance tipped greatly in favour of for-profits (LTC and Home care)
-the results were reduced wages for direct home care personnel and allowed for-profits to pay greater dividends to their investors (off the backs of Ontario residents). Any profit did not go back into the health care system.
-MH tied up the for-profit contracts for Ontario taxpayers to pay for years, including into subsequent governments
What has that achieved over time? Lower wages (which ironically the current Provincial government says it now hope to address), lower care standards in delivery (or at best, uneven delivery), without the courage and will of the current Conservative provincial government to provide the best oversight and demand penalties from repeated violations of legislated regulations already in place
So to Chris Selley I say, go ahead, cherry pick your assessment variables, it wouldn’t be a new idea – Stephen Harper picked “wait times” to justify more for-profits. Many health care people could see through that smoke and mirrors very clearly. Remember, others were present during the “Two-tiered Tony” (Clement) years operating under the MH Conservatives and can definitely attest to the impact.
Anna-Lise Kear says
COVID 19 & variants and LTC:
We need some answers from MOHLTC (Muskoka LTC homes) and Simcoe Muskoka Health Unit on the numbers of staff (nursing, dietary, housekeeping, maintenance, administration, recreation depts.) FULLY vaccinated and those unvaccinated (by choice).
Then, we need the same information about agency staff, essential caregivers, visitors, and any other non-employee personnel.
And, we need to know where to find this information on a regular basis as well. Ideas?
John Earl says
Re: Rod Jones comment on Jan. 20 “Who is still living that used to be on the Chaffey fire department in the 70&80”
The following are to Best of my knowledge the now living members of the Chaffey Fire Dept. From the
Dating period, from which I was a member during the early 1970’s.
Mr. Doug Allen
John Earl
Mr. Pat Mclroy Jr
Mr. Rod Jones
Mr. Bart West
Mr. Bill Antcliffe
Mr Ted Turner
Of Interest the 1st Chaffey Fire Dept. Chief , now passed, Mr. Ed. McDonald
The Last Chaffey Fire Dept. Chief , now passed, Mr. Lyle Payne
My years serving Chaffey Fire Dept. ( Huntsville Station # 2 ) were some of the best years of my life working, and socializing with such a wonderful, and superb group of Volunteers and Dedicated Men devoted to their duties as Volunteer Fire Fighters, and will always live within my precious memories.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Good reminder of the importance of our public health care system in G. Steward’s article, “Pandemic being used to push health-care privatization” (Toronto Star January 25, 2022). Though she sites Alberta’s Kenney Conservative government, don’t for a minute imagine that DF Conservatives are not to again push these policies (just as did MH and SH, with help from TC).
“Services like home care and long-term care were contracted to private companies, which often meant less government oversight and lower standards of care.”
Dr. Noel Gibney, University of Alberta, intensive care specialist addresses bed capacity, “Staffing is the major limitation to increasing hospital capacity at a time when health care professionals are leaving our hospitals at an unprecedented rate… opening private hospitals would strip public hospitals of staff and would not increase capacity.”
“In many ways, the pandemic has provided opportunity, and cover, for politicians such as Kenney and medi-entrepreneurs who have long wanted to cash in on health care through the public purse. Public health care is too important to be left in their hands. Only when people from all walks of life step up to protect and improve it will it still be there for all of us.”
Please do not vote Conservative this June. Thank you for reading.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Hi John Oliver; Glad to know you are still interested to check in with your former stomping grounds, Huntsville. Hope all is well with you and yours.
John Oliver says
If it wasn’t for my old friends Anna-Lise Kear and Ray Vowles battling it out on a weekly basis, I would have no reason to check in on Doppler. They make being at home with Covid restrictions fun. Do you think it’s time they kissed and made up or do you think they should get another hobby. Good folks and good debate. I sure do miss Huntsville sometimes. Take care all of you and be safe. Namaste
John Stanley says
to all now that Briton will lift all restrictions (masks, passports, and restrictions) curbing people,France has followed, at the end of March, maybe our governments will see the future also and do the same by June. no more gumpy old men just happy, happy.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Before any further re-opening, the DF Conservative government needs to require vaccine passports to include 3 shots, not 2, And these passports need to be required everywhere, not just those locations currently deemed essential; this would include examples such as LCBOs and Cannabis shops. Just another example of too little.
Rod jones says
Who is still living that used to be on the Chaffey fire department in the 70&80
Edward Butikofer says
I want to thank Mr Mckenzie for having enough gut tell it how it is. Quebec,
Allen Markle says
In 2013, Tricia and I spent 12 days at the Heilala Lodge on Tonga. The island stands on the shoulder of the Tonga Trench which plunges to 35,000 feet. Our fale or cottage was out on the hook of island that points straight out towards the Trench.
One afternoon, we and another couple went into the town of Taufa-ahau to have lunch at the Friendly Cafe. The place was crowded and we ended up seated with a half dozen or so tourism executives from other nearby islands. Bright lava-lavas, cold drinks and sunny warmth certainly made it a ‘friendly’ affair.
Across the street and green belt was the harbor and then the open Pacific.
We see on the news that a peak along the shoulder of the Trench has erupted. I look at our photos of happier times and wonder how much of what we saw is left.
Ray Vowels says
reply to Anna-Lisa Kear I guess you are one of the ones who think everyone should think the same as you because you think your so much smarter than the rest of us. As far as I know this is still a free country where people can decide what they want to put into their body. We have a constitution that protects that right so just why do you think it’s the govt’s responsibility to force people to take any drug that they don’t want to. Oh yes it’s for the common good. If that is the case then why is it that about 9000 double vaccinated people are testing positive the last few days compared to about 2500 unvaccinated one shot vaccinated or won’t say what they are. But you say the 2500 are spreading this around more than the 9000 are that is reasonable don’t you think.
Anna-Lise Kear says
” The Ford government had a duty of care. It failed us with its lassitude, mendacity and honed incompetence. On every crucial issue, this time the penalizing of the unvaccinated, it has taken the fetal position, curled up, eyes closed, saying not yet not yet not yet.”
“It was Premier Doug Ford’s responsibility to get everyone vaccinated, N 95-masked, and kept safe in schools, on transit, and in the cities and towns of Ontario. He didn’t do it.”
from; “Nothing can mask this level of ineptitude” (Heather Mallick, Toronto Star, January 17, 2022, p. A4)
Worth reading.
Brenda Begg says
Response to Ray Vowels: This is my take. Many businesses /employers pay minimum wage without benefits such as sick leave, extended health care. I agree with you that there are people who are choosing to use support money from the Government. But not all. I believe there are more factors involved, some of which may be complex, as to why there is such a staffing shortage. Let’s hope that everything comes out in the wash!
Anna-Lise Kear says
If you haven’t yet, check out the COVID section in Doppler and pay attention to the notice in red. Thanks.
Ray Vowels says
Thomas R Spivak So you had it hard for awhile and yes you could have used a had up we are not denying anyone that. What we are talking about is right now everywhere I look in Town there is help wanted . We are hiring signs but why are people still not working. Do you think it might have something to do with the money the liberal govt. borrows to pay people to stay home. Back in the days we talk about there was five men looking for every job that came up so you took a day here or a day tere doing anything to feed your family.
Thomas R Spivak says
Thank you Lanor, you understand.
No thanks to the bitter men that think they alone built this country.
By the way fellows, my wife and I lived in a tent our first 5 months here, the next 6 months in an uninsulated cabin with no water, bathroom, electricity, phone, and 1 window. Two years passed before we had power, drinkable water, and a phone.
My first job paid $3.00 hr. and I put a tub of coals under the engine early in the morning so my truck would start. Water came from a hand pump that had to be thawed at each use.
Yet, I don’t deny help to those in need.
Nobody ever said that we need to help people forever, just give help as needed.
” Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness ” Martin Luther King.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Under current debate: a tax for those who choose not to be vaccinated. With the Canada Health Act – accessibility to healthcare remains the same for all Canadian citizens. In other words, with a person who chooses to not be vaccinated, if they get ill and need hospital, medical, and nursing care – they Receive it!
The anti-vax tax, directed into healthcare revenue would help with the financial strain on our system, due in part to the people in the population who Could be Vaccinated and Choose Not to take advantage of this health promoting, illness-preventing measure.
Lanor Lovegrove says
There will always be good and bad in a situation. My husband and I volunteered at the table food bank before it was called the table. The people who came in for help could “shop” from our grocery shelves, taking what they needed. Then they came through our check outs , restrictions for how many were in their family decided how much they could have made this necessary, also we bagged it for them.
I knew there were some people coming in and taking advantage of a good thing, but what can you do?
One man always came alone, his was a family of four. He was quiet and always thanked us so much for the food. Suddenly he stopped coming. A few months passed when one day he came through the door carrying a couple of bags full of food items. He sat them gently on the counter
and said with a smile, “I got a job that pays pretty good and I would like to give back to others as they gave to me.” I held back tears and replied, “it’s people like you that make all this worthwhile.”
You get my point here. We must try to help others and not worry if a few of them are taking advantage of a good thing.
I think most people want to work. The biggest reward is feeling useful and self-sufficient.
John Stanley says
To all: It was all the grumpy old men that built the tar sands development, the CN tower, the trans canada highway and i could go on and on, but in every generation the younger one rides on the previous generations shoulders. It is called progress and is unstopable, i am sure we would not want to live like the Romans or even the Victorians. Remember slaves and workhouses. In another 100 years the people will be saying how could those people have live like that. history
Allen Markle says
We, (I include myself here) have been referred to as ‘hard nosed old men”. Sort through some of the previous dialogue and find all the unsavory characteristics Thomas Spivak labels us with. He finds us ‘simply wrong’ ands is ‘sorry for us.’
Here is some ‘hard nosed old man’.
I purchased a newspaper today for $4.20!! What would my father or grandfather have thought of that? There is no way to fit prices and times for comparison. We are here now and all that was then.
But I just bet if Thomas Spivak’s grandfather were to stand beside him today and survey the differences he saw, he would respond much the same as my elders did. “You don’t realise how good you got it, boy.” There is today, a safety net hanging from every identifiable hazard..
But the grandfather obviously used his time and talents and flourished. Good on him!
You may or may not believe in the “have dominion over” as it is recorded, but we are animals. We are the ultimate animal and that honor comes with baggage: a quivering moral compass and a pang of social conscience, which hopefully keeps us humble and honest. It’s what defines us and makes us human.
It also causes us to donate our time, expertise and money to our hospitals, hospice, service groups and food banks, and volunteer for a myriad of programs which benefit others.
Whether we like it or not, it is a lot of our pockets that the government rummages in when it wants to erect the next social safety net.
We donate and contribute because we can. We don’t require anyone to be sorry for us.
George Kitching says
Question: Are Xmas trees picked up by Huntsville’s door to door waste/recycling removal system? Please advise. Thanks, George
Ray Vowels says
Reply to Mr Thomas R Spivak I cannot speak for Mr Stanley but In my case I’m far from being a bitter old man. I and I think Mr Stanly were pointing out that it was not easy getting ahead back in the 50’s & 60’s. But with hard work and making do with a lot less than people have today we were able to have a good life. It did not happen overnight it took us years to get the things most take for granted now. But the one thing that was different was the fact that a lot of us did not need much to have an easier life with more luxuries than our parents had. Where I was raised we had no hydro so no electric lights no running water no indoor plumbing the roads were not plowed in winter so even if you had a car it was useless in winter. The one good thing everyone who lived in the area had the same problems so we really never knew anything different. Once again I’m not bitter just trying to explain why I think people should work for a living. There is nothing wrong with a hand up in hard times we all had some of that at one time or another but we did not expect it to last forever and as soon as we could find something to do we went to work. Not sure but I hope this Explains a bit about what makes us old guy’s tick.
John Stanley says
Mr. Spivak: please get it through. what i was trying to say was everyone can pull themselves up be their own boot straps. do not tell me about all the people that do not have boots, the food banks are passing them out every day!
Ray Vowels says
Well I’m not at all surprised by the reaction I got from my post. But it was meant to do just what it did. to point out that if people keep living on handouts soon they give up even trying to help themselves or make a better life for themselves. It’s not even their fault it is just plain human nature why work when I get the same thing for nothing. Every time I talk about what it was like back in the 50’s and 60’s I get the same answer things are different now and they are right back then there was no govt. hand outs there maybe was some kind of welfare but it sure would not have been enough to live on. I paid $10.00 a week for room and board now I can hear the laughter but when the only thing you can find to work at is pick apples for 50 cents an hour that was two and a half days pay. Then you had gas plus car insurance if you were lucky enough to have a car. So yep things were different back then but unless you lived it you’ll never understand. The only way to get ahead was to work hard and hope you could get a job where you could learn a trade even then the wages were not all that great In 1966 working as a carpenter in Hamilton i made $3.10 an hour and had a wife and two kids plus one on the way to support so things were different and my wife never worked and if she had of there was no maternity leave or anything like that. Plus we had to pay our own psi. and hsi out of are own pockets. for those who do not remember PSI was insurance to pay the doctors HSI payed the hospital bill. If you worked for a big company they deducted it off your pay and paid it for you if not you had to pay it yourself every month.
Thomas R Spivak says
Mr. Stanley,
It’s not the same for everyone, you need to understand that the path that you followed isn’t the path that everyone else can follow.
Please be more opened minded, there’s plenty enough grumpy old men in this world already and they never benefit anyone else.
Wouldn’t you hope that others have an easier path on life? Is hardship the only way to succeed? The point I’m trying to make is that we can as a society make an easier path for others and wishing hardships on others is selfish and unproductive.
What I’m seeing here from several individuals is that they are saying ” I had nothing, worked hard and became self sufficient, didn’t need help”.
This doesn’t work for everyone and you can’t generalize.
Stop playing the hard nosed old men, stop and think about who may have helped you, trained you, took time and trust to make you who you are, and don’t tell me me you did it alone.
If you are bitter about the hard work you did and think others should suffer too, I can only feel sorry for you, I certainly can’t admire you.
Final word on this.
Good luck!
John Stanley says
To all: Way back when i got my matric from high school i worked at odd jobs for a while. Then got a job in medical research cleaning animal cages. was able to learn and became a OR tech. Yes i become some one with a good job. Have held live beating hearts in my hands (be it a calves). But as life go on a lovely wife and a child the money way terrible. so go a job with a friend as a apprentice doing plumbing. Yes working to feed and house my family cleaning and repairing others feces. worked and joined a union and worked to eventually obtained 4 licenses in the trade. I retired at 62 in 2004 and now live very comfortaly on my pension. One POOR boys story. No hand outs from government, just hard work and night school while i worked. Seen the world, if you want to get ahead you will on your own.
Thomas R Spivak says
Mr. Vowels,
I appreciate and understand you point of view on how to get by and taking care of ones self however, times have changed, this is not 1960.
I remember buying gasoline at as low as 13 cents a gallon when I was in high school, a few years ago we could get bread for $1.50 a loaf. we cannot compare our lives and that economy to the one that exists today.
Ontarians pay more taxes than anywhere in Canada, we produce more electricity than we need and sell the excess to the states at a loss which consumers here subsidize. I remember my dad being hesitant at buying a new 1960 Ford F 100 truck for $2000. And yes, there are signs up in stores looking for help but consider that the people that are not working and are able to will not make as much going to work because it jeopardizes the benefits. In most cases these are not full time jobs anyway.
Even if they work full time at $15 an hour after deductions they may bring home $450 a week for forty hours which they wouldn’t get anyway, so $1800 take home a month. Now take out rent or house payments, food, hydro, ( and remember, even if you don’t use it you still get a delivery bill ) phone, heat, clothing, gas for your car ( if you can afford it ) insurance, license, maybe water if in town, and prescriptions are not free for younger people.
There are things I’m sure I’ve missed and I’m guessing at take home pay but maybe stop and think this over before making a bold statement such as you have.
And no this is not true what you have have said, people are not animals and cannot be compared to them, to do so is a cruel and short sighted attitude. Do you think that during the depression it was wrong to have soup lines? Maybe those people should have fended for themselves? Where does this thinking stop?
When a tornado strikes do we turn a blind eye to those homeless people?
My grandfather arrived in this country in 1896 with a wife, 3 kids, and a basket of hard rolls given to him on the ship. When I read the diary of their experiences here I see time and again how the generosity of the people in this country allowed them to survive, prosper, build a church, a school, a post office, and a life here. So don’t tell me we should let people fend for themselves.
You are quite simply wrong.
Allen Markle says
Maybe a bit harsh by today’s thinking Ray Vowels, but you may be on the right track. Duck man! Here come the entitled.
Ray Vowels says
Just a short thought on the govt handouts that they are giving people right now. The MNR tells us not to feed wild animals because if we do they get dependent on the hand out’s and forget how to fend for themselves so may in the end starve to death. Is this not also true for people who get to depend on Govt handouts.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Spivak; thank you for your insightful comment. It hope that the Reagan-Thatcher “trickle down effect” will eventually wear itself out. The assumption that big companies, when receiving additional taxpayer subsidy/tax breaks will pass this along to the lower class or front line workers, instead of giving executives big bonuses or buying back stock options has been a long-standing lie from the get-go.
Allen Markle says
Ray Vowels: I too was somewhat perplexed by the response prompted by your comment of Jan.7, 2022. You wondered about one persons’ penchant for laying the ills of the province/country/world , at ‘conservative’ boots. I read where you questioned the wisdom of adding, indiscriminately to our burgeoning national debt and then mentioned LTC in passing.
I don’t believe you commented on pandemic pay or the problem of parent/children staying home. There was no mention of sick pay or food banks or chronic low income. So how you prompted the peoples’ wrath was perplexing.
At one time the CRB was $500.00 per week and now the CEW is $300.00 per week. But even at these reasonable amounts, those benefits alone are responsible for a debt of 83.5 billion dollars in the last couple of years. Not one dollar of that is from an enormous fund of cash which Canada has stashed away. It is all debt. And this is only a portion of the enormous hole we are digging.
Wondering about having future generations left with such a debt does not make anyone ‘heartless’. Maybe sad and helpless.
And be assured, as Ray Vowels says, ‘they’ will come for it. It is a debt and the lion’s share will be gleaned from wage earners through taxes.
Most of us can recall that old comment that states the surety of taxes.
Ray Vowels says
I have thought long and hard about just how to answer Lesley Hastie’s comments and I think maybe i was misunderstood I have no problem with the govt giving a hand to people who need it for a time to see them through a unfortunate time that is no fault of theirs. The problem is the liberal govt gave out millions of dollars to big businesses that had to lay off staff I’m not sure just how it worked but from what I have read the money went into the pockets of the big business not to the laid off workers. This is the problem with Govt giving out money that they have no idea where or who it’s going to, As for hard times I was born in 1940 so have been around for more than a few hard times. I was lucky enough to live in the country where we had a big garden and raised chickens and pigs and even had a cow for milk so we always had food. Money on the other hand there just was not much of it I remember my mother looking all over trying to find 3 cents to mail a letter. I went to work at 16 got married at 19 and raised four boy’s some will remember what it was like in the 60’s if you could earn $1.50 an hour you were doing not bad. There was no LTC homes no day care you looked after your own kids. It was not always easy but we did what we had to do to get by. So maybe now you understand why I have a hard time trying to see why young people can’t get along on $15.00 an hour work two jobs if you have to we all know there is lot’s of businesses hiring when I go into town all I see is help wanted signs. The one and only time I drew unemployment Ins I think was 1960 and I received the grand sum of $12.00 a week thankfully I was not on it long . Hope this kind of explains why I feel people should get back to work. Some are sick and can’t but a lot just say why should I work when the govt. gives me more to stay home. What they don’t realize is that sooner or later one way or another this money has to be paid back so we all know where it will come from and thats the workers not the rich it will be the working people.
Thomas R Spivak says
Leslie Hastie, you are absolutely right.
It has been bred into our society for many generations that the poor are poor because they don’t try hard enough.
In the last 20 years the top wage earners in north America have increased their profits to 10 times what the upper middle class makes and the rest have largely been stuck where they are.
The notion that the poor deserve to be poor because they don’t work for it is a throw back to 200 years ago, trickle down economics is, has always been, and always will be BS.
The poor live in areas where the schooling in not as good, income opportunities are not as great, family structure may be broken, and they do not have access to the resources, banks, credit, and education that high wage earners do.
The myth of of the self made man has been pressed upon us and truth be know most of these success stories were about being at the right place at the right time or having family backing to begin with.
Everyone has a right to have sustainable income and its a societal duty to help those that don’t and not denounce them and hold them down.
I fear Mr. Stanley has a false sense of what success may be or what failure may be. Is he in the top 10 of wage earners in Canada? Likely not. No disrespect to him intended but lets be clear, most of us work hard most of our lives with the hope we someday retire and can maintain a reasonable lifestyle through our retirement. Many work hard their whole life and never achieve that level of security or comfort.
Aiding the poor, disadvantaged, ill, and unemployed is an investment in the success of their lives and in this country. When the wealthy are taxed and contribute to the wellbeing of this country on as equal of terms as the majority of the populace I believe we will see change begin to take place. We need to stop this class system that holds back and punishes lower wage earners.
Food for thought.
Lesley Hastie says
To Mr Vowels in particular, the new federal government’s pandemic pay is an extra $300 a week.
We Do have a pandemic here. Parents and children are sick. There is now remote learning so some parents will have to stay at home with their children especially where child carers are sick too.
How can people pay the bills? They have to pay rent or get evicted. They also have to pay for heat, transport, and if there is anything left, food. Most will not have sick pay (which should be an unconditional benefit for everyone. It certainly is available to Doug Ford and his ministers, why not other working people? Or are they supposed to go to work when sick?)
$300 is a very tiny bit of help for desperate people. According to the Foodbanks HungerCount, “In March 2021 alone, there were over 1.3 million visits to food banks across Canada—an increase of approximately 20 per cent compared to 2019. Low and stagnant incomes, rising food costs, and an unrelenting housing market driving market rents up across the country have created a level of need not seen since the aftermath of the 2008 recession. And people who receive provincial disability income support are living on incomes that, when general inflation is taken into account, are nearly 10 per cent lower in real terms than they were 30 years ago.”
So Please. Have a heart!
Allen Markle says
Railing against a Conservative politician , some 20 years later , seems to be an exercise in futility. Mike and his ‘common sense revolution’ failed, when it no longer made sense. He slithered away as Ontario voters were searching for a large enough rock to keep him under. Ernie Eves was left to suffer the ‘slings and arrows.’
Even while pointing out the damage Harris did, the politicians following him didn’t do much to effect repairs on systems.
Dalton McGuinty was hampered by an economic downturn, and fled like a gazelle, just as Harris had, while Ontarians were shaking out the rope and searching for the right tree. In the following election Ontario voters still chose a McGuinty follower (go figure!), but four years later the streak came to a sad ending for Kathleen Wynne.
Now we have a premier whose credo seems to be to appear clean shaven, well fed and concerned. Two out of three works here.
But the name of any party means nothing because, in my opinion, the choice is a matter of convenience. Members ‘cross the floor’, suddenly realizing there is benefit in doing so. Hell! Bob Rae was a New Democrat premier for 4+ years and then discovered he was a Liberal.
Party names are simply names. It is the people we need to be able to count on, and for most of the past 40 years, I don’t think we have bee able to do that.
Ray Vowels says
Just a short reply to Anna-Lise Kear. I most say that no matter what the issue is you seem to find a way to blame any conservative Govt. Can you tell me what wonderful things the liberal Govt of ontario or for that matter the federal liberals about all I can see they have done is run both our province and our country so far in debt that it’s going to take years for our children and grandchildren to pay back. Maybe you don’t care about that or maybe you have no children or grandchildren so nothing to worry about. On the other side yes we need better long term care for our elders if they are unable to stay in their homes . When I was young old people were looked after by their children because there was no LTC homes I am hoping that will be the case for my wife and I if that time comes but who knows. I just don’t think it’s fair to blame any one govt. for something that has needed fixing for years and was over looked by all govts.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Vowels, I am not sure what you mean to say in your comments.
However, I would hope for LTC that basically provides decent food, shelter, care support, some quality of life by having the following: sufficient, properly paid staffing and resource supports, good standards of care, accountable management, sound policies, frequent and comprehensive inspections and evaluations to root out violations and inadequacies -government oversight and follow up to ensure compliance/enforcement that a sustainable remedy has really occurred.
Also, that All complaints and concerns are investigated in timely fashion, and that penalties are imposed for repeat violations and substandard care, even up to and including closure.
Then, Mr. Vowels, should you or I need LTC in the future, we can have some assurance that the better has been achieved. By comparison, previous Progressive Conservative governments ensured that Ontario citizens, no matter what their socio-economic status could receive care in LTC when needed and when eligible. There has always been a co-payment requirement from the resident.
MH’s belief that large for-profits are financially, organizationally, and ethically superior to non-profits is fallacious. He saw the aging population as a way to offer up LTC services for others to make money from the residents and the taxpayers. And was duly rewarded with a Board of Director’s chair and income.
You raise an important point, that is the desire to remain in one’s home for as long as possible. To do that, a robust Home Care system must be in place and supported – the for-profits have control in this area as well, directly related to the Mike Harris legislation that required the for-profits have a foot in the tax-payer money door, side lining non-profit providers (e.g. Victorian Order of Nurses, Red Cross). During the pandemic, these for-profits have been able to deliver dividends to their investors -at what cost to the care of citizens in their home?
I think the reason the effects of this MH initiative has flown under the journalistic radar is that the performance of for-profit LTC homes has had such catastrophic outcomes – requiring front and centre investigation.
Hope this helps, Mr. Vowels.
Ray Vowels says
I do not know very much about LTC and just hope I never wind up having to find out what it’s like first hand. but one thing I do know and that is no matter what Govt. party is in power they will never give people anything that they have not or will in the future taken away from the public not one ever gives anything out of their own pockets. So if you want more social services then be prepared to pay more taxes.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Stanley, the changes started with Mike Harris Conservatives, I was present in LTC and Community Care to witness these in the 1990’s. We continue to see the same train, travelling in the same direction with the Ford Conservatives. They have continued to perpetuate their for-profit favourites. The current Bill removes much of any obligation to seek to use non-profit LTC solutions. The Ford Conservatives are rewarding the very poor performance of the large for-profit, failing to hold them accountable by first abandoning comprehensive inspections, then failing to apply the available legislated penalties for repeated infractions.
Don’t be misled by Phillips increase in financial penalties to be imposed on violations of large for-profits – they have to be applied in order to offer some kind of accountability for the travesty of care of our elderly residents and people with disabilities.
What I see is a continuation of the same ideology the Conservatives began – tying up the hands of legislators for the future – hence securing Ford the lucrative reward of sitting on another board of directors. He will really be in demand when leaving office – the developers will be thrilled for his participation.
As for voting, if electors care enough to encourage a change in the Province, consider not only the track record of any party, but their platform for change (e.g. more support for Community care and for non-profit management).
John Stanley says
Anna-lise so i take that you are one the would advocate any one but DF. I guess that you forget what KW did to this province.
Anna-Lise Kear says
If you care about Long Term Care in Ontario, then pay close attention to the DF government’s Bill 37 as it “smooths the way for billions of dollars to be funneled to for-profit LTC for another entire generation”.
“Studies – one after another -show that for-profit LTC is worse than in publicly run facilities, across a range of outcomes. Owners siphon off revenue (from taxes and residents’ care; have fewer staff and lower pay compared with non-profits; and fail to deliver on standards of care.
So, yes, ownership matters. And ownership is the central issue of Bill 37.” (Toronto Star, January 4, 2022, p. A13, Olivieri, Hurley, Stamatopoulous & Mehra)
This is not a new ploy, just an extension of the Harris years – which, by the way earned him a lucrative position on for-profit board of directors of a large LTC company. Perhaps Ford is hoping for the same reward. Large for-profits cherry-pick that their performance during this pandemic could have been better if their facilities had more private rooms available. While that has merit for infection control purposes, it also provides them with Yet More Profit!
You can safely wager that Hugh Mackenzie and Conservative writers will not draw attention to this issue, their preferred focus will return to the Federal scene.
In 2022, please consider voting this party out of office for their ineptitude in COVID response (public health, education, long-term care, and protection of our health care system) and for the clawback of environmental protections. DF is development-friendly and places all his eggs in the for-profit basket for LTC — and hasn’t that been successful? We get more of MH in DF – no surprise there.
Thank you for reading.
John Stanley says
In response to workers and pay. As long as Trudy is willing to give our tax dollars to people, why work when they get more than working. It is the devil if you do and the devil if you do not.
Ray Vowels says
Just to answer Lesley Hastie. As long as the Trudope Govt keeps borrowing money to pay people to stay home and businesses keep having to shorten hours of operation because they are unable to hire staff there is something wrong and it’s not the wages. If it was just wages why are some people willing to work and even come all the way from Barrie to work. I have lived in Huntsville for over 50 years and have never seen as many help wanted signs as i have in the last year, The restaurants in town have been having a hard time getting staff up until now. Now with another shut down they will have to lay off the staff they have and very likely will not be able to get them back when this shutdown is lifted. I hear it now pay them more money do some people not realize that in order to pay more a business has to charge more for whatever they sell and if they try to charge to much then people just stop going there or stop buying what they are selling so soon the business has to close down, Another one gone more jobs lost but who cares the govt will pay me anyway. They can just borrow more money for our great grandchildren to pay back.
Lesley Hastie says
Letter to the editor
Scott Aitchison, our MP, has just voted against pandemic aid for workers and businesses as it would be “incentivizing people to stay at home”. By this he means, conversely, that keeping the poor poorer WOULD incentivize them to work. This is typical of Conservatives, who believe that LESS money will make poor people work harder but MORE money will make the rich work harder.
This is the premise of the supply side economics (Margaret Thatcher, Milton Friedman etc.) that Conservatives favour.
So how can we encourage people to return to work if workplaces are safe? The answer is to pay them MORE not less. We must ensure a decent living wage for everyone. (We have seen Doug Ford’s extreme reluctance to raise the minimum wage and it is still nowhere near a living wage). It is a decent living wage that would increase work force participation. It would also eliminate Canada’s shame of more and more of the working poor, and children, having to use food banks.
John Lacey says
Regarding intersection of Hanes and Centre St.. I lived in Australia for a couple of years and roundabouts were many. Very few stop signs. Roundabouts work great and keep traffic moving. Putting lights in will compound traffic and frustrate people and we will find same problem as exists now – people running lights. Roundabouts will control problem..
Anna-Lise Kear says
If you are ready for a “rabbit hole” experience, read NP” Rex Murphy’s “A Trudeau puzzler from the CBC”.
Clearly Rex cannot find anything worthwhile to write about. I think he should consider doing stand-up comedy in 2022.
JOHN WYDRA says
A little comment for John Stanley re the happy holiday salutation. First this holiday season would be around without Christmas or christians. This holiday has been celebrated as the festival of lights for milleniums (ie. your christmas tree lights.)by other religious groups. It was the Carholic church who introduced Jesus birth andintegrated the pagan festivities into Christianty to entice the pagans to follow their faith. A quick google search will give you a much better historical explanation of its history. As for me, I am an athiest and don’t believe in the biblical account of the virgin birth, but I do enjoy the pagentry, colors and traditions of the season. So from me you will get a happy holiday..
HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE
Ray Vowels says
I was sure surprised this morning when i went up center street to see that they have cleared the whole area off . I wonder is that all just for the new Fairvern or is there more going to be built there, Allen Markle talks about all the older subdivisions but never mentioned Meadow Park or as we called it back when i first came to town the one behind the Tasty Cream. That was the first one I worked in but later worked on homes in all the rest plus a lot of cottages on most of the lakes around. All the building was a good thing for myself plus a lot of others in the industry. But I don’t think what was done back then can compare to the population explosion that has happened in the last couple of years. I don’t know if it’s going to slow down in the future but it seems that the town is not equipped to handle the extra traffic even now what will happen this summer scares me.
Allen Markle says
I was born and raised in Huntsville and knew most of the fields and farms that have been carved out of the bush by our ancestors. My family group (Fetterly, Hanes, Markle) settled a good portion of the land and did a lot of the chopping and clearing. It was different, I contend when they were clearing portions of 100 acres to support a family of five, ten or more.
There are subdivisions on most of those old holdings, which have been divided and subdivided a lot since the 1860’s; properties such as Bylock Acres, Maple Heights, Riverside and others. Orchard Park and part of the Canada Trail are along the Hunters Bay edge of my Great-grandfather’s farm.
I don’t deny the town is growing, it’s happening all around us, but that doesn’t mean I have to like the type of growth and structures in these developments, or the way they come into being.
These multi-story, Soviet style ‘blocs’ with their ‘pokey-hat’ dormers and ‘diving platform’ roofs over tiny decks are uninteresting to say the least. Somebody please hire an architect and design something that blends with the environment. It would be a task I admit and it might just cost too much.
Maybe most people are happy with the way the town is developing, but I’m not one of them. It may be said however, that most of the new residents will be spared having to rake any leaves come fall and there will be no grass to cut or driveway to clear. Loads of time for pickleball!
But I’ll mow, rake and shovel for as long as I’m able.
When I used to walk to town with my grandfather, everybody he wanted to visit lived up a hill! When I asked why that was, he replied “You can’t farm a hill, Buck.” So the hill was where the houses where and the fields lay all around. Made sense.
I wonder what he would think now that we have used up the fields, are razing the trees and beginning to blow the hills away.
Lanor Lovegrove says
I have to agree with Ray Vowels. Clearing land is a necessary evil if one is to progress in an area.
It started with our ancestors, here in Huntsville, over one hundred years ago. They came north to make a home and a living. They had to clear the land, close to a water source was best, to build a home. The land in this area proved not good enough for farming, too much rock. Mind you some brave souls did try it and were able to scrape out a living. For others the best way to make money was trapping or lumber.
Because our ancestors chose such a beautiful area to settle, the main businesses are now connected to tourism. Fortunately or unfortunately, however you are looking at it, this has brought more and more people into what we believe to be the most beautiful place anywhere there is to live. This of course means more homes etc. And so, on it goes.
Selective logging would be the best way to go but I realize that is not always feasible.
In order to keep things uncluttered and beautiful the planning board and others must really be on their toes.
I wish you good planning and good luck.
John Stanley says
Can anyone tell me why so many people only say Happy Holidays instead of Merry x-mas because as we all know it was the birth of Christ that gives us the holiday. Without that marvelous birth there would be no holiday.
Brenda Begg says
Stripping the area of vegetation (trees) is NEVER a good thing. The area looks barren.
But hay, what do I know; I’m not a builder (sarcasm).
Dawn Huddlestone, Managing Editor says
Hi Robert,
It’s an initiative of the Bracebridge, Gravenhurst and Muskoka Lakes Chambers of Commerce and represents businesses in their catchment areas.
Ray Vowels says
To Allen Markle I am not a born and raised huntsville person but have lived here since 1966. So have seen a lot of changes some good some not so good. Also being in the building industry a lot of the changes meant that I could feed my family and enjoy living in a small town. It is unfortunate that to keep a town prosperous it has to grow and growing means clearing land to build on especially in the north here there are only so many old farms around and most are built up along with most if not all the wetlands around town so that leaves the few small patches of bush but in order to build that has to be cleared. My wife and i hate seeing what is going on but at the same time we realize it has to happen by the way she was born and raised right here in this great town and yearns for it to return to yester years when it was a small town but knows it can’t happen. We spent ten years in Burlington and saw it explode from a small town to a city almost over night and see a repeat here but are now to old to move farther north.
Allen Markle says
George Hines and Huntsville: Too cursory a glance at that posted little map. Mia culpa.
I still find the clearing sad and my general comment applicable. But, now that my error has been pointed out, I am further depressed to realize there will be further devastation visited upon, what in my opinion, was a beautiful town.
I guess I am of a time and age, and appreciate having windows on all the sides of my home, many of which do not look at another patch of siding. And a swath of grass large enough to support a bunny.
Maybe one day that will have to change.
Merry Christmas or the best of this season to all.
Robert Swann says
Why is Huntsville completely ignored in the Found it in Muskoka promotion?
George Hines says
Allen, Is this where Fairvern is going? I thought it was going closer to West rd.with the entrance off of Centre St. Has any one seen a plan showing the new Fairvern location? If so can they post it on Doppler. Tks
Allen Markle says
The Sept. 20 announcement of the new Fairvern site drew this comment from Dr. Don Keedic. “Wow, this took me by surprise!” He also remarked that HLD would get the bulk of the contract. The wow! part I believe was sarcasm, but the rest was not.
The donated land has been variously reported, in Sept. as a 5 acre, serviced lot , then on Nov. 23, as being 7.3 acres. The site is presently being ‘prepared’ and HLD vehicles abound.
District announced it will assume ownership of the nursing home and stated an “intent to keep as much of the vegetation on the property as possible.”
Say What!! Have you looked past the hem of trees on the roadside?
This looks like a large example of ‘male pattern baldness’. Just a fringe; nothing on the top. Although I did notice a few small maples, huddled together for warmth or companionship, toward the middle of the site. Possibly left as a resting place for any small birds attempting to cross these barrens. The Somme may have looked like this, but with shell craters.
I realize it’s easier to clear it all away, and when it’s done, I’m sure it will be an asset for the community; but I wonder why projects such as this can’t be done in the open. All of it! What other attachments will come to light as this project develops further?
Why, after dealing with land developers, politicians and bureaucrats does one feel “back stabbed, door slammed and dog bit.”
I remember this comment made by the character Mordecai Jones (George C. Scott) in the movie ‘ The FlimFlam Man’.
Flim-flam, as I understand it, is nonsensical or insincere talk.
Ain’t that just appropriate?
Ray Vowels says
I agree with Lanor Lovegrove why spend money on something that works fine Most if not all are used to four way stops and have no problem. My opinion is if you need something then stop lights are the best option.
Lanor Lovegrove says
I must ask an obvious question, “why can’t the four way stop at Hanes and Centre stay the way it is, a four way stop?” Why are we trying to fix something that isn’t broken? I go through there often since center st. has taken over for main st.. Plus this was during the busiest time of the year while having more people than usual here due to those not going far from home for vacations. I have never found it slow, confusing or threatening in any way. Why are we even talking about spending money when it isn’t, yet, necessary.
John Stanley says
Ryan: the yield signs are for most not all stop signs. they are for climate change, cars take a lot more energy (gas, electric, etc) to roll after a full stop than a rolling yield. lots of times people come to a sign and no other cars around except for the cop hiding in the bush to give you a ticket if you do not come to a complete stop. ha ha
Ryan Vallentin says
Hey John,
Yield signs are a terrible idea, a traffic circle is by far the best option for almost all intersections. I grew up with some of the first traffic circles in Canada (Ancaster) and it vastly improved traffic flow. Just look at the traffic circle on Taylor Drive in Bracebridge at Ceder drive, it works wonderfully.
The current four way stop is a disaster, as people rush to jump the correct order. A set of yield signs would result in many collisions, I wouldn’t dare approach without my dash cam (which I refuse to drive without full time recording now already) as it can save you the headache of being deemed at fault.
George Gilley says
Does anyone know the story behind the tree cutting that has left a disgusting mess on the property east of the “Panalam” factory on Aspdin Road
Assuming there was a permit for this is there not an onus on the property owner to leave the site in a clean and safe state
Marie Sparling says
Hi. My name is Marie, & I’m trying to locate my Cousin’s sister who is from Huntsville. Her name is Georgette Kilpatrick, & she would be about 43 years old now, & has a daughter, Hailey Wolfe, who would now be in her early 20s in age. My Paternal 1st Cousin, William Kilpatrick, is Georgette’s older half-brother, & he lives in Iroquois Falls, where I too, live. It is our home area.
If you or anyone you know are either, related to my cousin, William, through surnames such as: Kilpatrick, Guthrie, Hill, Crawford, Loshaw, Shirk, Bye, amongst many other surnames; you can contact us at my personal email address: marieasparling2024@gmail.com & I will be happy to forward all communication to him.
You can also contact us on Ancestry.Com, as we are on there as well, & have multiple trees on there as well. All of which I manage on behalf of William, his mother, Ruth, myself & both of my parents as well. All of whom have done the Ancestry.Com DNA test.
Our trees are called:
1.) Ruth’s Johansen Sparling Family Tree (Ruth N.J. Sparling)
2.) William’s Sparling Guthrie Family Tree (William E. G. Kilpatrick)
3.) Georges Johansen Millen Family Tree (George E.C. Sparling)
4.) Dales Denault Gelinas Family Tree (Dale S. M. Sparling)
5.) Marie’s Denault Millen Family Tree (Marie Ann Sparling)
6.) Dales Denault Peever Millen Family Tree (Ruth N. J. Sparling)
I manage all 6 Trees & all 5 Accounts he too, & all are linked to DNA Tests except for Tree #6. The names in brackets represent who’s name the account is in, which also matches that of both the Home Person on the Tree, as well as who’s DNA test it’s linked to also.
I’m a huge genealogy buff, & if anyone is interested in contacting me re anything outside of my search for Will’s sister, Georgette; please do so. I am always happy to help out in any way that I can.
Please let me know if you know the whereabouts of his sister or niece.
Thank you very much for your time, consideration, & help. It’s greatly appreciated by us all.
Sincerely,
Marie Sparling
(Iroquois Falls, Ontario, Canada)
Diana McCormick says
Just wanted to say thank you to Catherine and her staff for being there for all of us, in her shop…book lovers will be sad as many of us are not interested in on line shopping…I realize there are options but none will compare with the warmth and expertise in this shop.
Many good wishes as you move on…will be a sad day indeed for Huntsville.
With many warm memories, Catherine.
Diana McCormick
John Stanley says
i still think yield signs is a better allturnitive for the hanes and centre roads intersection
John Stanley says
Allen, because of the canadian (and many others) news cycle that disaster has long been forgotten. shame.
Paul Sass says
How was it determined that anything other than stop signs were needed at the Hanes Rd / Centre St intersection? Frankly, I think the traffic moves quite well using the four-way stop system and installing any other option will only lead to additional congestion.
Allen Markle says
I cannot blame youthful exuberance for my error, but I hope to find something.
The blast and immediate death toll in Bhopal was listed at 2,259 persons. Compensation was paid to 3,787 family members.. An estimated 8,000 died within 2 weeks and a further 8,000 to 15,000 since then. The contamination is now found in the groundwater, soil and plants and is still sickening people today. In the subsequent 37 years, an estimated 600,000 have been made ill by the isocyanate.
Terry McCaffery says
I am just adding my two cents worth regarding the intersection @ Hanes Road and Centre Street! I would advocate for a roundabout! The Bracebridge one seems to work well and allows for a constant flow of traffic! The cost would be greater than traffic lights installation but would pay dividends (environmentally) by not having idling cars needlessly spewing exhaust while waiting for the lights to change!
Allen Markle says
I do not believe that we will stop using fossil fuels in my lifetime, or even the near future. But my contention is that we never know the true costs of what we do and corporations count on our not holding them to account.
The bay at Hamilton is an excellent example of pollution that will likely never be cleaned up. It would be too expensive. And a rather poor reason for us to pollute somewhere else. A clean up was never factored into the price of the steel. Sydney harbor will never be restored, nor any other Canadian port for that matter.
The Cuyahoga river is noted for having caught fire in the past, the pollutants coming to the surface and igniting. I think there are few of us would take a dip there, even today.
The toxins are still spreading from the Bhopal tragedy. About 600,000 people died, but Union Carbide still makes a profit after paying about $500,000,000.00 in compensation. Bhopal will never be cleaned up.
You can compile quite a list of disasters mankind has visited upon itself; Three Mile Island, Love Canal, Exxon Valdez, the BP spill in the Gulf of Mexico, garbage floating in the Pacific, Chernobyl, the Sukinda Valley in India and lots more.
The production never includes the cost of cleaning up the contamination, because there is never any intention of cleaning it up.
Doing this in our own country in the hope of making money is the quandary we seem to face. I would rather we spent our money on researching and manufacturing products and technologies to deal with the clean-up rather than the production of massive pollution. Like the tar-sands.
Instead we offer cash incentives for multi-nationals to come and ruin the land. Now, Reuters reports “Top-emitting oil sands site gets government relief from pollution payments.”
Otherwise, I guess there would be no profit in producing that ‘oil’.
Apparently there will be no requirement to clean up the oil sand, we will just let it flow to the ocean.
Sad.
Ray Vowels says
Well Allen Markle While I agree with you these ponds should not be released I disagree that we can no longer get along without Plastic. If we turned the clock back and started to make everything out of steel or glass like it was years ago. I think you would find the iron ore mines would pollute just about as bad as the oil sands and then you have the smelters. If you lived around Hamilton when both smelters were running you would know how bad the air was along with the water in the bay. Not only that but most of the cars made today are plastic if they went back to steel then they need more power so that means bigger motors. I sure don’t know the answer to this problem and it seems no one else has it either not yet anyway. But I just can’t see shutting down our oil industry as helping much. We just have to buy it from some other country but it’s ok for them to pollute their country just not us.
Allen Markle says
Just read the Dec. 6 report by Kyle Bakx in the CBC Business report. The government hopes to have the standards and regulations in place by which companies in the oil sands will be able to begin releasing their tailing ponds.
Those ponds contain millions of cubic meters of contaminated, saline and toxic waste water, water too dirty to even be of use to the companies that made it. Supposedly, those companies want to be able to restore and clean the land beneath the ponds! They can’t even clean the water; it would be too expensive. Ironically, we still subsidize billion dollar corporations to come and defile our country.
Now these companies want to be allowed to release the waste water into the Athabaska River. Toxic waste will flow into Lake Athabaska, to Great Slave Lake, the Mackenzie River and on to the Beaufort Sea. It won’t happen all at once, but over the years it will surely contaminate everything as it goes. And boiling won’t help; at present nothing will help.
Today, the tailing ponds are fenced and posted, to prevent wildlife from being destroyed by the toxic broth (remember the ducks? still happening! just not newsworthy any more).
People say that too much in our homes depends on oil (plastics); there was a time it wasn’t. You can’t convince me that we need to destroy our land, lakes and rivers, to be able to sell one of the world’s dirtiest oils at reduced prices.
In the end, these multinationals will divest themselves of the tars-ands and move to the next ‘bright and shiny object’. Without even so much as a “Sorry ’bout the mess. But that’s the oil business.”
Em Arde says
John, I apologize for my ambiguity. My disappointment is 100% with the general populace, which seems unable to follow simple rules and guidelines and do what is best for the good of the many, even if it does require some short-term personal sacrifice. There was no need for things to have gone on this long. I actually sympathize with the governments and authorities who have had to deal with this situation, and I applaud their efforts to even try to herd all these selfish cats.
John Stanley says
i am sorry Em but this whole societal thing is going to go on for years more. it is called control..
John Stanley says
wow??? i am supprised that no one picked up on my idea of yield signs. the cost to the enviroment to start a car from dead stop, is a lot more that from a rolling yield. the cost of the round about would be a lot more that the signs, or the stop lights. Oh well some folk do have set ways.
Em Arde says
So disheartening to see the COVID numbers going crazy again. Why so many weren’t willing to endure sustained personal sacrifice short-term in order to achieve societal gains and prosperity long-term is beyond me. This roller-coaster ride we are on seems to have an endless loop of track, as we keep going back and forth with the degree of pandemic restrictions in an attempt to continually placate the selfish.
Ray Vowels says
It seems to me that stop lights are much safer and cheaper to install than a roundabout. I think maybe the roundabouts work if you know where you are going but if you’re new in town like so many people are in the summer they are an accident waiting to happen. I hope they stay with lights.
George Hines says
Steve, Round abouts , great idea. Cities like Kitchener/Waterloo have used these extensively in there new infrastructure and they work extremely well. So does the one in Bracebridge.
There appears to be more entrances coming to Centre Street and Hanes Rd so something will need to be done.
Jacquie Howell says
Yes. Yes yes. Has the town missed an another opportunity to be forward thinking. A round about at Hanes and Center street. Makes great sense. Of course we can navigate it – Bracebridge did !
Perhaps we could eliminate cutting another entrance on to Center Street as it would be a short trip to a round about to move traffic south
Thanks Steve for bringing this up
John Stanley says
Round abouts are very expensive to construct. The simple solution is to make most stop signs into yield signs. I am sure the yield signs would be a lot cheaper than 1 set of stop lights.
Anna-Lise Kear says
With friends like Rex Murphy, who needs enemies? His latest article, notes …” our earth is not in danger, democracy is”. Without an earth, a planet for humankind, there is no need for democracy. Not really certain that RM is on the same planet on which I’m residing. May I suggest a referral for some special care or at least a reality intervention?
Once again, “freedom over any/all consequences” – a similar perspective to the DF ethos for COVID management.
Steve Lehman says
I just heard a rumour that traffic lights are going to be installed at the Hanes Rd./Centre St. intersection this spring. If this is indeed the case, then it is so unfortunate because if ever there was an intersection in this town that was crying out to be turned into a roundabout, this is the one.
While I apologize for not being a hard core environmentalist, I do cringe whenever I am at that intersection and see vehicles stopping and then accelerating through it, noxious fumes billowing out of their tailpipes. I think most of us are aware of how much more gasoline it takes to proceed from a dead stop as opposed to a rolling one. While it wouldn’t save the world, rolling through a roundabout would be one small step towards less air pollution.
Sometimes I feel that politicians underestimate the intelligence of the electorate and while I will admit that often their opinion of us is justified, I think that we locals are becoming cosmopolitan enough to navigate this formerly exotic European style of traffic movement. Non?
George Hines says
Great news about the new Fairvern Nursing Home.
With the Town wanting to limit tree cutting in the Rural areas how much clear cutting will be done on this property?
From my understanding there will be an extensive road system all the way from Centre Street to Shay Rd. Could someone actually show us what the plans are ?
Is the road being built to accommodate future development on adjacent properties?
Whatever happens let’s keep Clear Cutting to a bare minimum.
Jim SINCLAIR says
does anyone know what caused the Flash/Bang late Sunday night?
Allen Markle says
There seems to be a hush over the land. No one here on Doppler, is posting the latest figures they have worked out to manage the world’s financing of climate change. Maybe they have just witnessed the most recent convulsion of ineptitude performed in Europe. Every ‘have’ nation telling the smaller, ‘in trouble’ nations to hold their breath as the water rises. “We will get to you eventually.” Maybe!
There seems to be no one worrying as to how the situation at home would be, politically’, if DF or JK had their way, or if JT and SH met in the ring. ( on payperview, that would sell out. In Canada anyway.)
Or did the American border open and everyone just blew Dodge? Everything is on hold for 6 months?
Meanwhile, back on the hill, the house will be reconvened (or whatever they call it) after an election that was supposedly necessary so the government could deal with a lot of important legislation.
Apparently not that important, ’cause nothing has happened for 2 months. Parliament will now sit for 13 days and then call a halt for another 44 days. That means if the parliament had just continued for 2 more weeks in August, we could have dispensed with an election and the expenditure of 600 million dollars!
Don’t even try to tell me this leader of ours is working for our benefit.
On Nov. 23 the Gov. Gen. will read the speech ‘from the throne’; something she did not write, outlining what the PM and his government want to accomplish. It wasn’t written by the PM either. A bunch of bureaucrats and advisors that form the PMO have it put it together. I guess that’s the way our democracy works. Too bad.
I will add here, that for the next 4 years, Canada will operate as an elected dictatorship; or at least until the time comes that someone decides to stop propping this government up.
Proportional representation would allow a greater percentage of the population to have a voice in government and reduce the ‘party politics’ that has made our democracy ineffectual.
Do I hear an amen?
Allen Markle says
Talent will out. Cheers Mr. Vowels. Stay safe.
Ray Vowels says
Allen Markle I could not have said it better and I’m still laughing.
Allen Markle says
You are a very understanding person Dawn Huddlestone and your math skills are ‘Mahvelous! Simply mahvelous’. A la Billy Crystal.
Stay well all.
Dawn Huddlestone, Managing Editor says
It’s the same pool of people. You can’t have a second dose unless you’ve had a first. The second doses are all people who have also had a first dose.
Ray Vowels says
I just read on Doppler here that 85.2 % of the people have had at least one shot while 82 % have had both shots that adds up to 165.2% of the people how can there be more than 100% of anything am I missing something
Oliver Klimek says
Ray and LaNor, I’m glad we are talking about the issues. I don’t want to hog Speak UP, so I will answer three of your questions:
1. Aviation: we burn fossil fuels when we travel on air planes, and this contributes to global warming. One way to help cut emissions is to reduce air travel, but if people don’t limit themselves, I think stricter rules and higher prices are necessary.
2. Batteries: current EVs use a variety of lithium ion technologies, and they continue to improve (e.g. smaller, lighter, more powerful). If they are no longer able to power a car, they can be repurposed as battery backup systems. The best news is that EV batteries can be recycled (95%) into new ones!
3. Cost: we have been burning fossil fuels (coal, oil, gas, natural gas) as our primary source of energy for over 100 years, and with this energy we changed the world. Most of us didn’t realize what we were doing was harmful, but now we know: climate change is our fault.
If we want to leave our grandchildren a liveable planet we have to make some serious changes. We have eight years to cut our emissions in half. Let’s get started.
Ray Vowels says
I would like to reply to Oliver Klimek. All of everything you say can be done if there is enough money around to make it happen. The one thing I don’t see you saying is anything about the most polluting things on this planet and that is aircraft of any kind. Have you ever watched the jets taking off from pearson there is more pollutants from one of them than my car emits in a year and once they are up they still pollute and it’s already up in the atmosphere. When they were all grounded after 9/11 the astronomers reported seeing stars they had never seen before and they were only grounded three days imagine if they were grounded permanently. I’m old enough that I will never see most of the stuff your talking about being implemented But I hope for my Grandchildren’s health you are right.
LaNor Lovegrove says
Gentlemen,
I have some questions maybe one of you could answer.
1. The rockets that are flying through and beyond our atmosphere, what are they using for fuel. We should know because what we see now is just the beginning.
2. Batteries, also a rapidly increasing product. What happens to them when their time is up. What will they contain…. I’ve heard lithium might be used, which I understand has been banned in some places because it can be toxic……and how will it be disposed of?
3. What power source will be used to charge these many billions of batteries on a daily basis.
4. How do they safely get rid of nuclear waste.
5. Solar power seems like a good idea. Only, am I correct in thinking they will have to find a different way to capture the amount of power that will be required for use by the average person and businesses around the world?
6. A huge question is …..cost. Wouldn’t over half the world be unable to
afford these changes?
7. This question is just out of curiosity. If I can point my cars remote control at my car and send the message through a cement block wall for it to start, I assume that all the messages of all the remote controls around the world…. Satellite messages to earth, plus… are traveling through my physical body and yours and our atmosphere. Could this also be making us and our beautiful earth sick?
I won’t be around to see any of these changes but I have grandchildren and great grandchildren who will. So I would like a little knowledge of what might be.
Sadly, I’m not very encouraged. I recall David Suzuki and several other environmentalists saying, THIRTY OR MORE years ago that if we didn’t change things now, it would be too late. I just pray we don’t create more problems than we correct.
Thanks for letting me ramble on.
Wendy Brown says
Ok our family is trying to do as much as we can with the limited technology we can afford. Simple things like , sounds silly but use only 1 pound of hamburger in a pot of chili and bulk it up with beans, I use kidney, black, white and chicken Peas and no one notices a difference. We have a hybrid car and if the next door neighbours tree dies at some point we can have solar panels, we are looking currently for someone who wants to buy a black walnut tree, due to the fact it will cost alot to take it down its very large. Promise we will replace it with a more viable option. But we had to buy a gas furnace and we bought the most energy effient one we could, also a new not water heater. We would have gone with geothermal but like I said huge tree tons of huge roots. Also we are doing other little things like reinsulating. Basically what we can. The government needs to offer more rebates and incentives that would help getting people more inline with helping.
Oliver Klimek says
Bob, I agree that we need to consider the economic costs of our transition from fossil fuels. You mention Federal and Provincial revenues from fossil fuels. Can you be more specific about your concern?
Oliver Klimek says
Thank you Ray and Bob. You both identify some important issues. I would be happy to address all of your concerns, but let me begin with Ray.
1. Electric Vehicles: Passenger EVs are already here. Rivian, Ford, Tesla and others are now producing electric pick up trucks. Amazon is converting its entire delivery fleet to electric vans. Lion makes electric school buses. Volta makes electric transport trucks. All current modes of transport can be electrified, it’s only a matter of time.
2. Heat pumps: Air source heat pumps now work to -30C (e.g. Mitsubishi H2i). An air tight home with adequate insulation will be comfortable in any Muskoka conditions. If additional heat is required, radiant electric heat can be used as a backup.
3. I suggested that people consider eating less meat as a way to decrease GHG emissions. I didn’t suggest we stop people from eating meat. People must choose.
4. Plastics: We currently use oil to make plastic, and some plastics are very helpful, but we can reduce our dependence on oil by limiting packaging and single use plastics.
Let’s stop burning fossil fuels in our cars and our homes (as soon as we can). We need to cut our emissions in half in 8 years. It can be done and it must be done.
Ray Vowels says
Oliver Klimek has some good ideas but I’m not sure how they could work. First we could drive EV cars but just how EV trucks would work. The big 18 wheelers run 24/7 and could not take the time to recharge and how about in winter in a bad snow storm when they run around the clock to keep us as safe as possible. I don’t know much about heat pumps but unless they have improved a lot they could not heat a home all winter spring and fall yes but at what cost, I just installed a new energy efficient propane furnace and water heater three years ago do i just throw them out. About eating less meat not sure you can ever get most people to go along with that. We have been meat eaters for to many generations to stop now. Even if we did all these things as soon as possible we would still need gas and oil just think of all the farm machinery plus all the other machines in manufacturing they all need to be greased and i would think EV cars would need some grease to keep running. And what about plastic just take a good look around your home and think if I got rid of everything in my house that is made of plastic just what would i have left my bet is not much. Most if not all your plumbing pipes are plastic now just for starters, I guess what I’m saying is we have to stop and think of a better solution than just saying stop all oil production with no alternative to go to.
Bob Slater says
Amazing how everyone wants to go green and eliminate fossil fuels! .. BUT ,, has anyone ever thought about .. how the fed and prov governments right across Canada are going to recover all the revenue $$$ that comes from fossil fuels? ie propane, natural gas, fuel .. both diesel and gasoline,.. etc etc. Time for a reality check and assessment of impact and consequences to EVERYONE in the country of eliminating fossil fuels. SJW’s and climate enthusiasts need to understand we all don’t ALL live in golden horseshoe and need these fuels to survive in our lifestyles north of the GTA!
Oliver Klimek says
LaNor, you’ve made some good suggestions but to cut our use of fossil fuels in half by 2030, Canadians must make significant changes in 3 important areas of life: transportation, buildings and food.
1. Transportation: go EV (as soon as you can).
2. Buildings: replace natural gas/wood heating with electric heat pumps (as soon as you can).
3. Food: eat less meat and eat seasonal, local food (as far as this is possible).
People who have the means should change now.
People who have less should receive support to make the necessary change.
All of this is possible; let’s start today!
LaNor Lovegrove says
Hi Oliver,
For your first sentence to come to fruition, it would have to be ALL the governments and ALL the people of the world to cooperate. A miracle in my mind. But who knows, maybe someday.
To try to contribute to better tomorrows I would suggest the average person, such as myself, revert back to what used to be as much as possible. Walk or ride your bike rather than drive your car every time you go anywhere. Cut down on how often you jump in that hot shower. Twice a week is considered healthier than once a day. Only one laundry day a week. Air dry instead of the dryer. Eliminate disposable diapers, disposable anything if possible. Have the governments stop the manufacturing of all plastics. I know I’m asking for a miracle but, as I said before, who knows. Take vacations that don’t require planes, ships or any fuel burning vehicles for long distances. Remember how quickly our air was becoming much cleaner during the Covid shutdowns. By the way, I’m wondering what kind of fuel is used to send the rockets into the atmosphere and beyond? Now that private people can send their own rocket up, there should be many more to come. Sort of like the first airplane. We know how far we have come in the last 100 yrs. What lies ahead for the next 50 yrs.? We have more knowledge but do we have more wisdom? Hmmmm.
That’s just my humble opinion.
Oliver Klimek says
Hi LaNor! Your logic is sound and your comments are welcome.
If governments and people cooperate, the transition from fossil fuels to renewable electricity is an achievable goal. Have you started to plan how you will reduce your emissions? If you want some tips, I would be happy to share some!
LaNor Lovegrove says
Oliver,
I just hope IF our fossil fuels use will be cut in half in 8 yrs., that a replacement energy source such as solar, wind, etc. will be on the go so that as the other is faded out the new one can be there to take its place. Of course all of us will also have to be ready to receive the new power sources. New heating systems for our homes, all new reception for the replacement of electricity. New cars, electric or whatever. If they and we aren’t ready can you imagine the cost of oil, gas and electricity when there is only 50% of the usual amount available?
I am not a scientist or an “in the know person” on these subjects. I feel that what I have just said is based on good, old fasion logic.
Oliver Klimek says
Our Prime Minister is currently in Glasgow, Scotland at a UN climate conference called COP26. He and other world leaders are there to negotiate ways to reduce global warming and limit climate change. The science and the goal is clear: we must reduce global greenhouse gas emissions by 50% by 2030 to keep global temperature rise to 1.5C.
That means we have 8 years to cut our use of fossil fuels in half. That will be hard to do, but we CAN do it!
Peter R. Dirks says
By – Laws are becoming a joke . If a Town can not enforce a By- Law , it should not exist. The function of our Town is more and more run by By-Laws with no control . The list of all this is getting bigger and bigger.
For example : Handicapt parking , Standing water, Tree removal, Dumped cars, ( just take a trip south on Bayle Road, ) . There are at least three places of visual dumps for cars, trucks and Machinery, not counting the stuff hidden in the bushes .
If our Town wants to clean up , get on with the current By-Laws in place .
David Wexler says
Regarding your recent article on the removal of District trash bins from the community, this is a local catastrophe in the making. Waste disposal for rural properties and properties on private roads (often farm right-of-ways) adjacent to municipally maintained roads (where the trash bins are located), is a critical service. These owners pay substantial property taxes and receive virtually no service in return…no sewer hook-up; no curbside waste pick-up; no infrastructure/beautification investments. The trash bins and maintenance of the public roads are just about all that these residents receive, and in the absence of trash bins, garbage will most likely end up on a private forested lot somewhere as has happened in the past. For a District that cares about the environment, removal of the trash bins versus considering alternatives that allow for continued local storage and removal of waste is definitely a move in the wrong direction. How about lockable bins with key card access for locals or smart bins that accept only acceptable waste. Until the District figures out something better than simply removing trash bins and expecting residents to travel up to 40 minutes to centralized waste disposal sites (if so inclined), I encourage District and Town elected and employed representatives to halt further removal of trash bins. Please?
Anna-Lise Kear says
Earning Public Trust- a valuable asset for Huntsville business. Following public health and government mandates to protect the public makes good business sense. For example, if a Huntsville restaurant does not follow public health advice and government mandates for protocols, restricting numbers of patrons, checking vaccination status of guests, etc., then why should I trust that restaurant will also follow public health requirements for food safety preparation? It is a no-brainer, I won’t.
Allow me to praise the Family Place restaurant, which has earned my public trust in all they have tried to do during COVID to follow public health and government mandates to protect the public. Thank you!
Anna-Lise Kear says
What I am grateful for: that the constitution may actually stop Jason Kenney and his nonsense!
The National Post headline recently about Canada not working is laughable. Can you imagine it working as a republic, cue the USA, where it is not so impossible to imagine another civil uprising?
It takes work to foster and grow this diverse Country, with its beautiful but varied geography and its both good/troubling history.
The east-west concerns have been going on for hundreds of years -it takes work. Federalism takes work, this is nothing new. There will always be divisive issues to sort through. Perhaps JK’s recent salvos over the bow of the ship are meant to distract from his and his party’s very sad, very inadequate response to Covid pandemic for the people of Alberta. Perhaps. Thanks for reading.
Rod jones says
Why is the town not responsible for their workers when they miss checking the building code?And why does the home owner has to pay for the repair? The town is paid for the inspection when are building permit is bought and is expected to be do a good job not just sigh off the work
Rod jones says
So if I read this right the town is going to tell me I can’t clear my lot to build or cut some shade trees down that I want sun .I pay dam good taxes on lot and I should be able to cut trees but not clear cut like the town allowed them to to going up to lions lookout.
Leonard Smith says
Heads Up Rural Huntsville this new Community Planning Permit By-Law that the Town of Huntsville is preparing includes a new Tree Removal, vegetation removal and Site Alteration by-law requiring a permit on property over 0.5 hectares that is located in the New Natural Constraints precincts (no longer zones).
I urge you to look over this, join in on their meeting October 27, 2021 at 6pm, ask questions, listen and voice your opinions to them. This could become a Tree Cutting by-law that will affect almost every landowner in Huntsville if passed.
LaNor Lovegrove says
Christmas is coming and Huntsville is looking forward to a display of decorated homes to welcome in the season for Old St. Nick and his crew. What fun and good cheer that will bring.
I hear the pioneer village will be wonderfully lit up come November.
I would like to suggest we light up the rest of Huntsville. After Santa and his helpers have gone back to the workshop, we all leave our lights on until the end of February or March.They do look delightful and will bring such joy. A much needed bright touch to our hearts during the dark, cold, winter months that lay ahead.
george kitching says
Question: Does anyone in Huntsville provide weekend international press/newspapers … looking for a supplier of Weekend Financial Times (of London) US edition (pink paper) published every Saturday? Please advise. Thanks.
Chas Clark says
November 11 is fast approaching and that is the day that we remember those brave Canadians that gave there lives in many conflicts and wars around the globe. Traditionally, on the 11th, Canadian flags are flown at half mast in recognition of their sacrifice and, on the 12th the flags are saluted and raised again. So what is going to happen this year? Our flags are continually at half mast due to our Teflon coated Prime Minister who shuffled off his responsibility to the First Nations as to when they considered the flags should be raised. Do we drop the flags to the bottom of the masts now? What should have happened is the flags should have been lowered to mark the Truth and Reconciliation Day and then raised to full mast the next day. We know how much he thought of that day as he disappeared on vacation. To hell with this ridiculous situation Huntsville, please raise all our proud Canadian flags to full mast tomorrow so we can give the proper honors to November 11th, then after Remembrance Day raise our flags again and leave then there.
Allen Markle says
John MacDonald. I grew up on Brunel Rd. Back in the day, there was little traffic and no Iron Man. Although I think this is a great event for the town, I also firmly believe, that aggravating the same portion of the population, year after year is a bit much. Like knowing you are going to have a toothache; the date is posted and you can’t escape. It’s annual and inevitable. Damn!
We had moved before the Iron Man started, but I know it would not have set well with me.
I did take the time once to go and see the intended course routes, talk to some of the old neighbors and exchange some opinions. There was no flexibility displayed in the layout as presented and it seemed that concerns voiced were dismissed as an inconvenience and the exercise altered nothing.
If Huntsville is such a great site, and it seems to be, why does it seem the Trisport organization is so averse to any move from Brunel Rd?
Could they not lay out a few different routes, alter them annually, and refrain from agitating the same people year after year?
There must be someone capable of doing that. I hope.
Anna-Lise Kear says
DF is flapping his divisive rhetoric again. Watch and learn from DF’s populism, division, as he and his party decide who we should distain, and how we should categorize people, immigrants. One would think he was coaching his high school football team to puff them up for a good play on the field.
He sees himself as someone who knows how to work, and dislikes those who in his view, do not measure up to the task. (guess what, my father too was an immigrant and worked hard, glad to become a Canadian citizen, and appreciative of all he had).
Just remember, DF is limited and predictable in his rhetoric. If during this next provincial election, you find yourself becoming extra angry from one of his speeches/commercials – take a breath, he has studied with the GOP in the US to use populism to best advantage. (I hope never again to hear phrases such as “lock her up” or “the elites” or “buck-a-beer”).
Populism is emotional abuse of the electorate, antecedent to civil war when it goes too far- just look south.
Don’t be taken in by his anger – his anger does not have to become yours, he wants his team players “riled up”.
Thank you for reading.
Ray Vowels says
Rod I just told you what option I had not what you should do. I don’t know who your builder was but thats the one that should be paying . I know there are a few shoddy builders around like there always has been. I have been out of the business for over thirty years so don’t know any of them now. I would be sure to not give whoever it was a good review .
Rod jones says
To Ray Vowels so you are saying just fix your own problems even if the town has signed it was ok. The town signed off on our place but we found out not enough insulation it was to be r50 but we only got r32 but the town signed off that it was ok It cost us 12,500 dollars and you say sue the town which cost more money.So if the town won’t pay for their mistakes WHY do we need building inspectors save money get rid of them they aren’t doing their job anyway
Ray Vowels says
To Rod Jones I’m not sure I bought a new home a few years ago and about a year after I moved in I found out that the in floor heating system was not up to code. I went after the builder who would not do anything so I went to the town building department they admitted that they missed it but about the only course of action I could take was to sue the town. What I ended up doing was install a circulater on the system that brought it up to code cost me $3500.00 but was cheaper than suing the town, I’m not sure just how bad your problem is or what the cost would be to fix it. If it’s a new build you could try the outfit that warrants all new buildings can’t think of the name off hand they would do nothing for me they said it had to be structural or a health hazard but might be worth a try. Sorry I’m not much help I do feel for you and know what your up against.
Rod jones says
Ok Ray Vowels so what happens if he inspector sign off on a house but latter found out it wasn’t brought up to code? Then what happens who pays to bring it to code the town as the inspector works for the town or the poor home owner who trusted the town,is he stuck?
Ray Vowels says
Years ago the building inspectors did not do much but take a close look and if everything looked fine that was it . I think now the inspectors take a lot closer look to make sure the structure is built to code and if not they can and sometime do issue a stop work order. I think they are a lot better trained now and have to know the building code or they wont get a job with any town or twp. that I know of. Every once in awhile they can maybe miss something but that is part of being human.
Rod jones says
Can someone tell me what the building inspector do,do they check the building from top to bottom or take the word of the builder? If takes the case we don’t need them.
Howard Bargman says
Ray Vowels wants some answers:
People with symptoms are tested irrespective of their vaccination status because 20-30% of the positive tests occur in fully vaccinated people. This is important for the person and the community to know since they may need to take precautions and contact tracing may be important.
The information concerning vaccination status and hospitalizations are posted daily on many sites: I check the 680 News and CP24 apps daily.
Howard Bargman MD
Ray Vowels says
I wonder just where all this talk about getting vaccinated is going to end up in a few more months or years. The latest report of test cases in Ont show around 37000 tests and out of that 573 tested positive with 58% being unvaccinated or there status being unknown. 33% were fully vaccinated that number is up in the last week from 23% so what will it be in a couple more weeks. What I wonder about is two things why are they even testing people who have been double vaccinated for one and why are they not reporting how many of the double vaccinated people testing positive are winding up in hospital or maybe ICU these are the figures I would like to see.
Betty Rimmington says
Looking up main street from the bridge it looks like No Parking on main street at all, if this is so, I, and I would think a number of other seniors, will not be shopping downtown, my walking ability is limited and with no place to park close to the stores it would be impossible to even think of trying to shop there, and I would think there are a large number here in town with the same problem.
Others have made the comment that Huntsville will become a beautiful ghost town.
JOHN WYDRA says
I’ve noticed in he last month or so a couple of big half ton trucks that seem to think its quite amusing to blow their black toxic exhuast onto the streets of Huntsville. Its annoying, ugly and stupid. I had the privlegeof driving through one of their clouds and didn’t get my windows up in time. Damn near choked. I felt sorry for the cyclist and pedestrians in the area who had go through this cloud of toxic fumes. COMMON BOYS,GET A BRAIN. These exhaust fumes are hazardous to the people that are exposed to them, let alone the ecological damage to our threatened earth.
Allen Markle says
A pox on potholes!
On hwy. 11 North, near where the ‘Rock’ once stood, there was a ravine that stretched across the highway, from one side to the other, leaving no way around. After every crossing of that “damn spot” it was necessary to check that my cap, glasses, testicles and cell phone were still in, or returned to, their assigned positions. A few days ago a road crew dumped some material in it, in the dark of night. It is a bit better, with a couple of smaller bumps replacing the one big jolt; however, it’s still prudent to check that everything has arrived safely on the other side.
Then I had occasion to drive past the Edmonds auto dealership and noted that an extra lane of pavement had been added there. I drove over this and there was no bump! I went back around and confirmed that it was so. So smooth!
To the crew who did this, my heartfelt “Excellent job.”
Please establish a training school and show others how to do this kind of word. Lord knows there are enough spots in our town for the trainees to practice.
Thanks.
Em Arde says
Re: Vaccine Passports — Except for groceries, medicine and medical visits, since the pandemic began I have eschewed any and all indoor contact with anyone except my spouse in our own home. So I won’t be needing a vaccine passport any time soon. If it is someplace where I need to provide proof of my vaccination, then it is someplace I don’t yet want to visit, anyway.
Brian Tapley says
Back just after the dinosaurs, when I was in school I seem to remember something about the protocol for flying flags at half mast.
I took this to be a practice used to sort of pay respects to “important people” who had died recently. Nowadays it is harder and harder to determine who an “important person” actually might be but we have had our flags at half mast for most of the summer.
There must be a time limit is there not? If there is no time limit and if everyone is important (sort of a given) then we might save some money by building flag poles half as tall to start with.
If we fly the flags at half mast for a host of people who died years ago, then what is the procedure if an important person dies today? Would we take the flag down completely, maybe just wrap it around the base of the flag pole?
Does anyone know what is the protocol here? There should be one and we should be following it.
Rod jones says
If checking handicap parking spots for people who don’t have a handicap sticker or card is the towns bylaws office where are they you never see them,we pay big taxes in this town maybe the bylaw officer should leave his desk and check the parking lots in town,look at all the money the town will make
jerry paris says
There have been comments about the lack of parking at the old theatre site on main street west, where a church, a restaurant. and 14 housing units, with only 4 parking spaces available for all development. Parking is short in town, and is to be shorter when main street up the hill from Brunel is reopened. The new curbing now in place takes out a number of former spots both east and west bound. Where are you supposed to park when you come in to shop or eat? Even more of a problem for those with reduced mobility.
Some wonder why people use the Walmart and other stores of similar type outside of town. Brobably only 20 percent of Huntsville live in town..
Allen Markle says
Mr. Rod Jones: Who indeed! By its’ own admission our town council realises that by- law enforcement is somewhat (?) lacking.( see Aug. 25, 2021 entry on Doppler) It seems to be a sporadic sort of ‘peek-a-boo surveillance’ and the ‘fink’ system. If you have laws and by-laws, they are meaningless without enforcement. Is our by-law enforcement underemployed or undermanned, or both?
The OPP command the streets and highways but who paroles private parking lots like those you mention? By-law? Most people I think will adhere to the regulations, but without anyone checking, there are those who will break the laws.
Signaling, stoplights and signs, speeding: they are laws meant for the ‘general public’, but for some they are little more than suggestions and certainly not for them ‘specifically’.
As for your query about handicap parking cards, would it surprise you if someone told you that there are cards in vehicle windows, issued years ago and for some persons long since deceased, still being used
today.
Sometimes it’s tough to find a place to park in our town, even in the handicap zones and even for legitimate users. But hang tough man, at $3000.00 a pop for in-lieu parking we should have lots of empty spaces…someday.
Ray Vowels says
To Rod Jones It’s the town of Huntsville bylaw department that is supposed to enforce the disabled parking spots. Good luck at ever seeing on around. I think in about 20 years I’ve seen one at the mall not checking parking just driving around LOL. My pet beef is people leaving sopping carts in the disabled spots to lazy to push them another twenty feet . I would like to see all store do like Price Choppers and charge 25 cents each for them then watch people take them back.
Rod jones says
Who gives out tickets to people who park in handicap parking that don’t have a parking card or plate on the car. People park in handicap spots at Walmart all food stores Canadian tire , Home Depot,liquor store etc is it he store or the police?
gerry lannan says
to Brenda Begg
The manager said he had no idea if the staff were vaxxed or not & he couldn’t ask them
Gerry
Brenda Begg says
To Gerry Lannan: I agree. Exactly, what’s wrong with this picture? I’m fine with providing proof of vaccination (POV) to restaurant staff but, staff don’t have to be vaccinated? Or, am I wrong? Do they? If we have to provide POV to gain entrance to restaurants, gyms, concerts etc. the staff needs to also be fully vaccinated. Moreover, I’d like to see hair salons included in this mandate.
There’s a disconnect here.
gerry lannan says
I just spent some time at Tim Horton’s; We all had to show proof of full vaccination for covid 19 to the manager; but apparently the staff is not required to show proof; what’s wrong with this picture..
Kelly Zytaruk says
Was anyone else plagued this weekend by boat after boat of inconsiderate bass fishermen?
As I sat on the dock these fisherman would troll a mere 5 -10 feet off the end of my dock and cast into our shoreline and swimming area. At one point in time as I looked along the shoreline I could see 5 boats traversing the same shoreline about 100m apart.
One fisherman while trying to cast under our dock dropped his lure about 3 feet away from me in the water while I was sitting on the dock. If there was any error in his technique it could have easily hit me.
On another occasion a fisherman bounced his lure off my seadoo as it was parked at the dock.
While my son was out kayaking along the shoreline another fisherman cast directly over his head. Is this acceptable behavior for the sole purpose of catching a fish?
The last thing that I need is some inconsiderate fisherman to snag his hook in my swimming area leaving a sharp swimming hazard behind.
While this is all fine and wonderful for the tourism industry (which is currently hurting) is there any consideration given to cottage owners trying to enjoy their waterfront. I understand that I don’t own the water but seriously, isn’t fishing 5 feet off the end of my dock a little intrusive and disturbing? Its just downright rude and inconsiderate.
Can we not adopt a distance regulation to keep a little privacy and safety?
Jacquie Howell says
Question re COVID -19
How can we know small businesses staff are vaccinated? Especially personal service staff, gyms, restaurants etc, where I will willing show proof of vaccinations but I do not know about their staff
Perhaps the stores could post their status??? Oh I know some might cheat but it would just add to their guilt if someone become sick
Just asking
Lesley Hastie says
This is the climate action election.
Why? Because according to Dr. Mark Carney, former governor of the banks of England and Canada, in his book ‘Value(s)’, published this year, if we wait four more years to reduce Greenhouse gas emissions they will then have to be reduced by 50 per cent every year in order to keep global heating to 1.5C.
And why does it matter?
Dr. Diane Saxe, previous Ontario environmental commissioner and environmental and climate lawyer, says if heating is more than this 1.5C, then in their lifetime our grandchildren will see the end of human civilization as we know it.
So, vote climate!
Em Arde says
Child-free by choice, I am tired of being told I need to change my ways and sacrifice in order to save the planet for future generations. If you chose to have kids who chose to have kids, and so on, then it’s all on you if you think your children, grandchildren and beyond face an uncertain future.
The level of selfishness and self-importance one must have to procreate for their own short-term self-gratification, with complete disregard for whatever difficulties and struggles the future may hold long-term for those they force into existence, never ceases to amaze me.
Paul Kuebler says
Why I am voting for the Green Party of Canada and Marc Mantha,
Parry Sound-Muskoka (PSM) needs REAL representation in Ottawa, not the same old, same old. We need to be a part of the Green Industrial Revolution, by supporting and developing industry right here, on sites already available from industries lost to previous government actions or inaction.
We need to stop the one step forward, two steps back political tug of war, that Conservatives and Liberals love, by starting and killing each others projects, costing taxpayers Billions if not Trillions of dollars. All the while collecting their overpriced salaries and pensions.
The Green Party of Canada (and Ontario) recognize the planet is in trouble, and recognize the Opportunity being handed us, in being a PART of the transition away from fossil fuels. By turning the $1,000 every man, women and child gives to the fossil industry EACH year toward the development of our own Green Energy Revolution, we will be come Leaders, rather than slaves to this changing world.
In all, I just want a Canada that has a job for my Grandchildren in a world where they can afford a home and raise a family in an Environment that is livable, with clean air, water and food.
That is why I am voting for Marc Mantha and the Green Party of Canada
Paul Kuebler
Port Sydney
Marcia Yale says
Customer Service takes a holiday
I have been living in Huntsville for twelve years. Before me, my late husband lived here since 1986. Therefore, there have been guide dogs in this town for approximately 35 years. In fact, I have always told my friends that Huntsville is the most guide dog friendly town I’ve ever visited. However, last Thursday, I finally ran into a guide dog unfriendly restauranteur–at Marigold. My friend and I wanted to check out the new Mexican influences–we both had eaten at Marigold and loved their Indian food, so what could be wrong with adding Mexican? There was never a problem with bringing my guide dog in the past. When we got there, no one greeted us at first–we couldn’t figure out if they were open for dine-in or not, and their website hadn’t been clear. We called out to the empty room and finally a man came out and told us we couldn’t stay because of my guide dog. We both explained to him that it was against the law to refuse access to a guide dog, but he didn’t seem to know the law and insisted we had to leave. We then asked if they were even offering dine-in service and were told no, only take-out. I hope he learned about the laws of this province since then, and how to treat customers with respect, or the Mexican influences won’t get any farther than the kitchen.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Kathryn Henderson: Do average, licensed, responsible gun owners own and use military style assault weapons? Likely not, not to worry. That does not mean dangerous contraband should go ignored -either for the buyer or seller, because these weapons seem to cause considerable damage for criminals and non-criminals alike.
PS. I am not a card carrying member for any political party and have not donated money to any party this election year.
1] So when a leader cannot express clearly the party position on assault weaponry, I am concerned.
2] And when leaders (of any stripe) fail to adequately protect a majority of Canadians, including health care professionals, during a pandemic, it needs to be called out. My definition of “adequate” may be from a higher standard of care to be found along with those very same health care professionals serving the public health and public good by their work in communities.
3] When a party is supported by individuals who deny climate change and the responsibility to Act, a light needs to shine on that reality.
Your comment has been helpful, thank you.
George Gilley says
Some people would like to see Maxine Bernier become the leader of the Conservative party so that their continued criticism of the party might mean something
Sorry to tell you that this will never happen
The leader of the pack in criticizing his opposition is no other than Trudeau Jr
During my many successful years in business it became obvious that if the only way you could try to sell your product was by bad mouthing your compitors’ then you did not have a product worth selling
Does this remind you of someone
David Wexler says
A question for this newsletter. Do you allow posters to this letters page postulate for or against political parties and candidates? Just curious as recently, this seems to be the orientation of the posts. Thanks
Kathryn Henderson says
I love it when government and people talk about getting guns Off people using the scare tactic of saying assault weapons. Crime is up in the criminal circle. Higher now since Trudeau has been in office. The criminals are smuggling in assault rifles from the states. Let’s quit scaring people by insinuating that the average gun owner has assault weapons. DONT take the NEWS BY ITS SELF. INVESTIGATE YOURSELF INSTEAD OF JOINING THE MANY SCARED PEOPLE THAT LISTEN TO THE LEFT SIDED BIASED NEWS.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Warning, election stuff:
Once again I read in Conservative media reference to the appearance of another politician. Seriously, get over such shallow examination of leaders running for office. It becomes very difficult not to believe that the Conservatives are a bunch of “Suits”, when appearance is top of their list for insult (this seems a go-to place for Conservative media, perhaps when they run out of something substantial to say).
The platform and performance of federal and provincial Conservatives is one which does not keep Canadians and Canadian society safe. Examples at issue, COVID-19, climate change, and gun laws which do not strongly support abolishment of assault weapons.
‘Uniting the right’ has come back to bite with the tendency towards the wild west! Individualism (think the Marlboro cigarettes cowboy) is king! Look where that has got the US. We need to think about our communities and collective citizens (not the least of which are health care professionals).
Can’t help to wonder if Maxine Bernier will take over the Conservative party leadership in Canada = then the mantra will become “everyone for him/herself”, forget about your neighbour. Thanks for reading.
Anna-Lise Kear says
“Experts break down the science on breakthrough cases”, Melissa Couto Zuber, Toronto Star, August 30th.
You may be interested in this link and read:
https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2021/08/26/what-do-we-know-about-breakthrough-covid-cases-experts-break-down-the-science.html
Anna-Lise Kear says
Ray Vowels; you make a good point. Vaccines and passports are helpful and a decent measure, but they are not by themselves enough to keep us from possible infection by the Delta variant. In the case you describe, continuing to follow public health safety guidelines (e.g. mask wearing, distancing) must continue.
It is false to assume we are out of the COVID woods with vaccines and passports – however, we are moving in the right direction, albeit very slowly.
Patricia Snell says
While driving up highway 11 North and passing over the Vernon narrows I looked over to my right and saw two personal watercraft racing! How is it possible that they can do this on our waterways? Are the street racers moving to the waterways because they can’t be caught easily? This is so unsafe for the rest of the people that may paddle board, canoe, kayak or swim!
Ray Vowels says
With 50 or 100 cases of people that are double vaccinated testing positive almost every day a vaccine passport means very little to me. Someone posted it would allow him to go to different places without worrying about a non vaccinated person being there. I would worry more about a vaccinated person being there and being a carrier. Just my opinion
Anna-Lise Kear says
Election item. Thought some may be interested in reading the article in this link from The Canadian Health Coalition.
https://www.healthcoalition.ca/public-health-advocates-cut-through-election-spin-over-public-vs-private-health-care/
Hope this is useful.
Terry McCaffery says
I just heard on the news that the province of Quebec will begin issuing Covid-19 passports next month. Ontario should do the same as soon as possible! If people choose not to be vaccinated, that is their choice. But those of us who are vaccinated should be allowed to enter restaurants, theatres and concert venues with the knowledge that all those who enter are vaccinated and that we are safe in doing so! This will aid in preventing the spread of the virus through the community! Covid-19 is not going to go away anytime soon…it will continue to mutate from what I have read. The American CDC which Canada follows for guidelines, is advocating a booster shot for those who are already vaccinated! Those who decide not to get vaccinated should reconsider their decision as the vaccine limits the transmission of the virus and protects family and friends!
Kathryn Henderson says
It’s easy to judge when you just listen to the news Trudeau puts out which pushes the vaccine. I have investigated and know some bio chemists and made my decision on the information I gathered. To say I’m not entitled to free choice is un Canadian. I am not a threat to anyone. I don’t judge you. Your entitled to your opinion. Keep safe I won’t be responding again. I’m not interested in an argument.
Allen markle says
Bonnie Branton: Approved Unanimously!!! As if you couldn’t be any more surprised.
Bonnie Branton says
‘Approved’! WHAT??
Re: The former Cinema building on Huntsville’s Main Street.
How many cars will need parking to attend the proposed Temple, 14 Apartments and a Tourist Attraction??
These Developers are probably as shocked at their approval as most of us.
NO REQUEST that they provide UNDERGROUND PARKING or a Parking Facility to address that much density!!
Town of Huntsville-
You have created a future social disaster and polarization- so many people, aged, disabled & otherwise unable to simply find a place to park by the Post Office, Pharmacy, Doctor & Dentists offices- all in that immediate area.
We need professional management.
Is ANYBODY Minding the Store’?
Wendy J Brown says
Bring on the vaccine passports, the people who say no obviously don’t remember getting shots in public school. And we had vaccination cards then we just didn’t normally see them. As for the vaccine being untried you kind of have a choice of living or dieing because alot of younger people are dieing unvaccinated now
Norma Stahls says
Kathryn I believe passports should be issued for they are required in many countries if you wish to travel at all. I hope businesses request this information for the safety of everyone. I for one do not wish to be around unvaccinated how else would I know if proof was not required. Vaccines I know are not one hundred percent but it gives protection from getting severely ill in most cases.
Support our community by wearing a mask and please get vaccinated for the higher the number fully vaccined the sooner we can get back to a more normal life which I know we all long for. Thanks to all the medical professionals and all who have worked during these difficult time
Norma
Anna-Lise Kear says
Unfortunately, Ms. Henderson, there will always be folks who deceive any authority if they do not want to follow measures for public safety. I am suggesting that not having a vaccine passport (showing proof of vaccination) might be equivalent to folks driving without a license or car insurance, or perhaps not wearing a seatbelt. Today, seatbelts are a no-brainer.
The public safety is not just about an individual, but about the public -others around them.
What do you think?
PS the issue of wearing seatbelts was thought to divide the country. This issue is no different.
Kathryn Henderson says
I think having vaccine passports will divide the country. If you have had the vaccine you should be safe from catching the covid or what was the point of getting it. A passport should not be required.
Stan Dronseika says
God Bless you Mr. Paris…… my concern exactly. Thank you for bringing this matter to the surface. I think getting this done would be a perfect election promise. This man, no matter the party, would get my vote, and I think of myself as a pretty average voter.
Rod jones says
Can someone please tell me why they fill in the hole at the corner of main st. at least 3times and then dig it up again it just doesn’t make sense why not leave the hole open till all the work is done a waste of time and money
jerry paris says
Hugh, about a week or more ago I called the premiers office concerning vaccine certificates for Ontario people.
The feds do not have our pictures on file, or our vaccine times and dates. I wanted to know why I can not go to my service ontario and acquire a card similar to my health card, pay a small fee and walk out with a card for my wallet or pocket and since it has a picture of me, know one can copy it like the two pieces of paper I now have.
The lady that I talked to was going in to a meeting and would pass on my idea.
Ray Vowels says
It’s too bad Frances Botham but this has been going on in Huntsville since back in the 60;s. But if you want the town to grow this is the cost you pay. I’m not sure if you were born and raised here but any town that does not grow will stagnate and die, It’s to bad but that is the way it is. In 1956 I went to Burlington to work back then we shopped on the main street just like we did here back then Not sure if you have been down there or know anyone from there. The same change is going on here just not as fast. We just have to get used to it or move it’s that simple.
Frances Botham says
There has been a lot of dissension expressed over the desecration of the land in the area of the building previously known as the Waterloo Centre. If you want to see major desecration of land you should take a drive up Hwy 11B N and turn onto Woodstream Drive. If the total removal of trees and all vegetation and boulders and complexion of the landscape is okay, well then I am sickened at Huntsville/Muskoka planning strategy. I wonder if most of us have been sleeping while this travesty has roared on? Maybe it’s time to wake up and express dissent. If this continues at its present speed throughout Huntsville, in the guise of the economy and ‘progress’, we are doomed to development that looks like a big city subdivision and appears to be planned the same way. Bring on the cookie cutter housing, the toy nursery trees and the cute boxed plants. This seems to now be the norm. If that is deemed good planning, in this new environment where ridiculous setbacks, height revisions, facade requirements, and all the other revisions are seldom turned down, then we are doomed to lose our beautiful unique Muskoka. The big yellow taxi has arrived!
Anna-Lise Kear says
Good morning, the E O’Toole’s announcement that he and his party will not require civil servants to be vaccinated for COVID 19 – This has “sealed the deal” for me in not voting for the Conservative party of Canada.
As a retired nurse, having worked locally in public health, this is such a backward, reckless, anti-science position. Thank you for reading.
jerry paris says
Perhaps the town planner who says everything at the old theatre sight is within walking distance should be given two bags of food at the independent and watched as he walks to the building site.
There is way too few parking sites in the centre of town, to take up a dozen more for one down town building is ridiculous.
Marilyn Martin says
Our neighbourhood is grieving. We have lost a much cherished bush. With respect to its ownership, it is commercial property and according to Mobile Marine, it’s been rated so since the sixties.
Since the mature trees were removed, we have lost privacy, a sound barrier, and any sense of sanctuary we once enjoyed.
In light of the pending policy for tree removal, one might anticipate an urgent clearing of this property for fear of objection. Mobile Marine had every right to do what they did in the purpose of business. What is objectionable, is the character revealed.
This was a mature bush. Many of us had been led to believe it was protected, greenspace or wetland.
Never did we think it would be cleared as it was. There was absolutely no communication with bordering properties and with initial inquiry, they were going to clear to property limits. A verbal request for a small buffer was declined. There was no room for discussion. Mobile Marine needs more space for boat storage and this was their answer.
They said they didn’t want a fight. Understandable.
What we as neighbours would have preferred, communication; an understanding of their plan, where and when the bush would be removed and an explanation of why. Common consideration of neighbours.
Yes, Huntsville needs a policy on tree removal, but more, we need respect for each other. That, is a character trait we instill in children and really, a business with good repute, should have as part of their mission statement. We do wish this business continued success but more, improved respect in how they treat others. All the best Mobile Marine, you have work to do.
Kathryn Henderson says
Chuck muir you are absolutely right about parking spaces. There is not enough parking available now.
Chuck Muir says
With the additional 14 apartments, a place of worship and a restaurant being added to the downtown area and a very limited number of parking spaces. I believe our town council is looking through rose coloured glasses to think parking problems won’t be an issue!
Thank you
Chuck Muir
Ray Vowels says
It’s so great to read Margaret Griggs post about the people that helped her out after a fall. Far to often we only hear the bad things about people and how they only think of themselves. Also it was great to read about the staff at Huntsville hospital It’s about time I know from experience just how great these nurses and doctors are. I’ve been there myself a few times and they are always super. My wife will tell you the same thing even in these hard times for medical workers.
Susan Chinnery says
I buy tickets for the RVH monthly draws for the neonatal wing, I buy Princess Margaret tickets to help that hospital out.
I would certainly buy tickets if the Huntsville Hospital would have draws or a lottery to raise money for our local hospital.
I am wondering why they don’t do this………………
They are all on a website, secure and easy to buy.
Thanks and hopefully Huntsville can get on board!!!!
Margaret Grigg says
Yesterdsy, Aug. 7, I took a tumble on the sidewalk across from Port Sydney Beach and
discovered that this community is full of wonderful, caring people. I want to thank you all for your concern and caring. Especially Steph, I do not know your last name, but you were there beside me and stayed until the ambulance arrived. Then you cared for my husband. Low and behold when we arrived home 9 hours later you had left a bouquet of sunflowers at our door. How exceptional is that. Thank you, thank you Steph. who lives in Utterson. Just to let you know I did break my wrist and nose, and my face is a sight to behold. If you wish, drop in so we can thank you in person. I also must mention how great the staff is at Huntsvile Hospital, they were rushed off their feet but still so kind and caring as were the paramedics.
Howard Bargman says
On July 14/21, I wrote a letter to warn others that I hit rocks under the bridge. By 0800 the next morning, 2 people reached out to me to tell me their rock story. I now have the names of 8 people who have hit these rocks.
A common thread for them, and me ( at first), is that they reached out to the town and their councillors, and were met with abject apathy.
In spite of one readers incredulity as to our inept boat driving, we all seem to be seasoned boaters.
I have been advised that marker buoys will be deployed and the middle boat way will be opened in a timely fashion.
BE CAREFUL!
Allen Markle says
At about 7:30 this morning, on Old Muskoka Rd., I found a vehicle’s gas tank lying on the pavement, leaking fuel. I moved it to the verge, but I am curious.
To the driver: you must have noticed by now that it is gone! How fast were you going? How far did you get?
There could be a story in this!
Anna-Lise Kear says
CBC news, “Stephen Harper says Canada’s pandemic spending has been ‘overkill’…”
SH and DF both have lived in Etobicoke. Likewise, if both have the same understanding of science, medicine, and public health, can you imagine who would have been at the receiving end of those “tough decisions”?
One sector who would Not have suffered is corporate welfare executives or known developers.
We now know that between wave one and two of the pandemic, DF solidified government, taxpayer contracts to large for-profit LTC homes so they could renovate. After all, we know the only reason for-profits performed so poorly in the care of our elderly citizens was not enough single rooms (read with sarcasm here)! Rob and Doug’s phrase “gravy train” comes to mind when taxpayer money is used to reward large for-profit LTC owners/managers for their poor health service outcomes.
Nancy Long says
I’m following up on the comment about Etwell Road, also know as District Road #45. I have talked to several people about this road and have been reassured that it is on the list to be fixed. Three weeks ago, I was told next week. Last week, when I inquired, I was told sometime this year. Oh my goodness. We actually have to leave the road and drive in the ditch at one point to have save passage on this road. It is truly terrible. I’m sorry to hear that a cyclist was injured. One of my comments to the district staff was that there will be an accident.
Ray Vowels says
I sure agree with Mr. Lehman and have no idea just what is getting into people theses days. As I was walking out of our Independent store yesterday I had a young man rush past me I walk a bit slow because I’m 81 and had a stroke a few years ago so walking is not a strong point. If this guy had hit me you know where i would have ended up. Then as I was walking to my car a lady came awfully close to hitting me as she was pulling out of the parking lot. One thing for sure that will be the last time I go into town after 8 am for a long time or at least until summer is over, Never saw so many people with the. I’m the most important person in this world Attitude and look out for me because I’ll not look out for you. And they wonder why we wish they would just stay home.
Alycia Bullock says
@Steve Lehman
Hi Steve! Just read your comment below and was left with a sick feeling.
Are you able to tell us what store in town? We have a sweet young gentleman that worked Monday and are hoping this situation wasn’t involving him.
My husband’s email is mon02719@loblaw.ca
Thanks!
Steve Lehman says
Bad Manners
An expression I have often heard voiced by many meteorologists is that nature loves a balance. Assuming there is truth to it, other than just popular perception, then perhaps this would help explain the total lack of civility being on display around Huntsville this summer.
A year and a half ago, as the pandemic was making itself known, it actually seemed that the world was a nicer place. We were realizing that we were all in this predicament together and had better unite against a common enemy. Fast forward to the present and the pendulum has now swung to the other extreme. Traffic infractions are incalculable, customer rudeness to service staff is endemic and the me-first-at-all-costs attitude in many social interactions is pervasive. While I have had many anectodal experiences relayed to me second hand, yesterday I witnessed an example that I felt was beyond the pale.
As I sat outside a local grocery store, a car came to a stop on top of the no-parking pavement markings by the ramp leading up to the entrance doors. While technically illegal, I am sure many of us have done this so that our passenger can begin shopping while we go park the car. Not a big deal. This passenger, however, proceeded to go to the back of the car after the driver had shut it off, lift the tailgate and start rummaging around for who knows what or for how long. Again, somewhat rude but not unexpected these days. No parking indicators are only meant for other people.
Unfortunately for everyone involved, at this point in time a cart person was returning carts into the store and this car was directly in their path. As he got, admittedly, dangerously close to the inconveniently parked car the woman suddenly stepped out from behind the vehicle and, I quote, asked him; ‘Are you stupid?’
Now, ordinarily, I would not have troubled myself to intervene on behalf of the young cart person but for anyone who was not so self absorbed as this woman, the syndrome-unique facial features of this hapless teenager did indeed indicate that, while he was not stupid, he did have certain challenges that the majority of us do not have to contend with every waking moment of our lives so, with my sense of indignation welling up inside, I got involved.
Now, without going into detail, after the husband angrily got out of the car, cane in hand, to slowly shuffle to his wife’s defense, things could have gone south very quickly. As they began, in offensively loud voices, to list their own myriad disabilities as their reason for ignoring parking protocols, however, their sense of white, senior entitlement was so pathetically obvious that I started to laugh. I couldn’t help it. The absurdity of them using, in their words, their ‘legally defined disabilities’ as an excuse to be rude and discourteous to someone who didn’t need a doctors certificate to certify his situation was so ridiculous that I just had to walk away, fervently hoping for a quick return of the day when the pendulum swings back to the midpoint of civilized normalcy.
Mildred Tanzini says
It is an accident about to happen. That is what we keep saying about the horrendous conditions on Etwell Road. Well we don’t have to wait any longer. Driving on this road on Sunday to our horror we came upon a person laying in the middle of the road face down! This unsuspecting cyclist had hit a pothole, flew over her handlebars and skidded about 30 feet on the pavement. The ambulance arrived quickly and transported her to Huntsville Hospital. What is it going to take before action is taken to resurface this road?
Allen Markle says
This comment may be soul self serving, but please indulge me.
Many years ago, Mrs. Young our music teacher at the new Locks school (Riverside) took four youthful singers and made a little quartet of us. She gave us some music and taught us how to sing in harmony. People heard us and thought we were pretty good. We had egos our knees could hardly carry; until she took us into Huntsville!
I grew up on Brunel road and town was a long way off. But Mrs, Young took us to Huntsville where we sang in churches and for service clubs. She really shopped us around.
For me it was a bit intimidating, but tucked in beside Eric (Eric Bionda) who was older and bigger, it seemed okay. Writing some stuff down recently, I was stuck trying to think of the names of the other two singers in the group and was attempting to contact Eric to see if he might recall who they were.
But a couple of days ago I received a call telling me that Eric had passed away. The day before.
Eric, if the group you are part of now didn’t know they needed that big rich baritone voice, I am sure you have made them aware.
And maybe you can stand beside some little kid. Kinda boost his or her confidence.
jerry paris says
Doug ford has said that he will not issue any photo card with a picture and vaccine information even though he has the required info to do such. Ford says wait for Justin to get his act together,
For those that want to plan to travel or even go in to concerts or businesses are told to sit back and wait, Ottawa does not have the required info on hand.
Does anyone have knowledge of when this might occur?
Rod jones says
Just wondering why the legion in Huntsville is still closed as we are in stage 3 for covid and can open indoors for seating ? I know we get grants from the government to pay bills but the legion was built for the vets and the community as we are a nonprofit organization we are here to service the people and help charities by holding Saturday meatdraws,Tuesday suppers,50/50 draws etc. Just wondering why its still closed.
Nadine Gingrich says
I would like to present another side of the ” beaver dam controversy.” It is not about money but about human lives and safety. A neighbour was just getting back from her morning walk when the dam burst with no warning. A minute later and she would have been swept away, along with the uprooted mature trees and large boulders that ended up in the Big East River. The road wasn’t just “damaged”: a large chunk of it was completely gone, leaving many of us stranded for the better part of two days with no alternative route into Huntsville. It could have been longer but for the diligence of the work crews who were able to fill in a part and create one lane of the road. Fortunately no one had a life threatening medical emergency in that time. What would have happened in those two days if one of us had had a heart attack, stroke, or serious injury?
Mr. Markle’s concern about pot holes is shared by many on Williamsport Road; we still have actual rocks peeking up from under the thin veneer of pavement in spots. But pot holes will always remain a secondary problem to a complete wash out of the road. As I understand it, the bylaw will allow inspectors to look at beaver dams in an emergency. Workers are not going “to descend like the Four Horsemen” on private property for no reason to plunder and destroy. Mr. Markle’s simile is heavy handed and completely inappropriate.
It seems to me that the “rights” of the individual property owners to keep inspectors off their property are trumped by the rights of the rest of us to feel safe from the prospect of another washout with the potential to claim human lives.
Robert Graziano says
A message for the gentleman who told me that the bush along Manominee st was not a dump as I was placing grass clippings there. Remember I’m the guy picking up garbage on the town streets and if Sir go into the bush off the main trail and see the tons of garbage there where every year I do my best to clean.
Lesley Hastie says
I agree wholeheartedly with Lynn Bennet and Councillor Jonathan wiebe as regards disagreeing with naming a Huntsville road “Hollywood”. And do we really want to give developers the right to name roads that will become public ones?
How about a contest from students and/or the public to suggest names?. We have so many wonderful names from natural kingdoms and human achievements associated with Canada. As somebody who was lucky enough to be accepted to live in this wonderful country I would like to see names that reflect our Canadian identity.
Allen Markle says
The town is declaring war on beavers? Well, not on beavers but on their dams. Sort of on the dams when they fail. Specifically when the beaver dam on your property fails and damages the towns’ road. There is a problem for sure, but the landowner isn’t allowed to destroy the beaver; that industrious little Canadian rodent that we stamp into our Canadian nickels. It is a furbearer and protected by law. Except from licensed trappers who can harvest the fur. But who wants a fur garment nowadays? Even though that fur is a renewable resource.
The new bylaw will allow town workers to descend on your land like the four horsemen; to deal with that structure of mud and sticks and send you the bill? I hope there is a bit more to the story than this.
Recently a developer failed to create a dam that would prevent peoples homes from being inundated and they and the town only got to the problem after a lot of damage was done. Let’s hope those people will be compensated in the end.
I find there is a lot of irony here.
And to Mildred Tanzini: we can only hope that the councils’ next bylaws will abolish potholes and the clearcutting of trees.
‘Hope springs eternal’ as the saying goes.
Mildred Tanzini says
The road from Muskoka Rd 3 to Muskoka Rd 2 also known as Etwell Road is in need af great repair. Particularly the stretch from #3 to South Drive has potholes so large and deep it feels like you are driving in a third world country. The damage to unsuspecting cars would be costly as they bounce in and out of these holes and try to dodge the enormously deep ones. Who is responsible for overseeing the maintenance of this road and ordering the repairs?
Jim Sinclair says
What with the very noticeable promise of an increase in Huntsville’s population (judging by the new accommodations being built, doesn’t anyone think we should have a new Hospital pretty soon?
Mr. Miller.
If one looks at the demographics, Huntsville serves a much denser aging population then the next closest facility. Now is the time when a good percentage of the work force find they can work away from the office with as good a result and still live in the best area of Ontario.
When MP Aitchison was hospitalized he was adamant that his priority as Mayor was to drive for a new Med. facility in Huntsville. Shortly after his election to MP I met the Mr. Aitchison and asked him when we could expect a new facility, and I was told it is a Provincial responsibility., and that the Federal allocation had been set.at that time.
With Mr. Miller being born and raised in the Town of Bracebridge we know where his loyalties lie, but that didn’t stop his Daddy from doing the best for this area.
What if the powerful Huntsville Rotary Club were to cast their net countrywide for pledges from other Clubs to get the Ball rolling would it be so impossible to have a full service Hospital in Huntsville. to prevent our population from having to traverse the Hwy. 11 from here to Bracebridge. I bet Huntsville could do it!
Anna-Lise Kear says
Thank you, Mr. Clark for your comments on math. Math “problems” were of my generation too -things have changed. Introduction to math can include what, where, and how one might use math in real life, including a career (e.g. woodworking, sewing, cooking). Math as statistics, depending on the grade level, can be introduced as applicable in health/medicine, engineering, social sciences too. Why should a reference to psychological and social sciences be excluded in the introductory examples of applied Math? DF’s view seems unnecessarily narrow -it is a pattern of his party’s response.
One issue I find very difficult about which to remain silent is Long Term care in the Province. My interest and bias as a retired R.N. and having worked in LTC, is the tragedy during Covid pandemic to our elderly citizens and their families (disease and death numbers in large for-profits).
To that end, you will find my postings represent a desire to keep front and centre health and education issues.
A reasonable read from today, for those interested is linked here: “Devastating to Watch: Critics say funding for-profit LTC homes rewards bad behaviour…”
https://www.thestar.com/business/2021/07/15/they-were-the-epicentre-of-the-covid-19-pandemic-so-how-did-ontarios-for-profit-long-term-care-homes-manage-to-secure-so-many-of-their-business-goals.html
I believe this should be an election issue and I think there are others who remain concerned about the direction of the Ontario Provincial Conservative government.
PS. I rely and trust the needed oversight to posted comments, by The Doppler to examine mine likewise.
Lynn Bennett says
Understand we have some new subdivisions opening up in Huntsville. And they have very odd names including “Hollywood”. Well, guess I can save myself a 4,236.2 km drive and 39 hours and say I’ve been there!
What a JOKE naming our streets after such places!! Have these developers ever been north of the 401!
Chas Clark says
When I was at school, mathematics were pure numbers and solving problems. The only vaguely social issue was if you wanted a bath and there was no plug, how long would it take to fill if the tap input was X and the outflow was Y. Perhaps political rants should be limited to one per person per month.
Wendy J Brown says
I’m confused i don’t know how these people are hitting rocks under the bridge in town unless they aren’t useing the center, were the boats are to go? No one that I know of other than maybe kayakerss or canoeists would use the sides where boats aren’t meant to use. Obviously they dont know the history of the town and realize that under the bridge was once shallow rapids and was dredged for the use of the large boats when the bridge would swing. So as far as I know use the center lane you should be fine especially now that the water is high.
Jim Sinclair says
I’d like to say thanks to the person who got it moving! Yesterday there was a large crew of professionals cutting out the dead trees along the roadway into Kimberly Clark. Looks much better!
Anna-Lise Kear says
DF and Conservative interference in Provincial math curriculum. DF has not been in a classroom for decades. Though he seems to understand the application of pure mathematics in a real world application to financial literacy, he wants any application to social issues (e.g. racism) eliminated.
Robert Benzie (Toronto Star, July 16, 2021) “Premier defends change to curriculum introduction” quotes DF as saying, “language on racism has no place in math preamble… in math, lets stick with math”. In my opinion, exemplifying the applications and limitations of mathematics can and should be a reasonable introduction in education curriculum. DF is not okay with the application of math to social epidemiology (e.g. statistical math concerning health outcomes of a population).
DF is our “back to basics” guy (whatever that means). Math application as long as it is in line with party viewpoint. Perhaps his limited, narrow view, explains well his early and sustained reluctance to be guided by the statistical science and epidemiology during our pandemic.
Please remember and watch the Ontario education curriculum changes since 2018. Talk to a teacher!
Thanks for reading.
Susan Harkness says
Re: Howard Bargman’s comment…Several weeks ago we too hit a rock trying to get under the bridge leading to town from Fairy Lake. There is no warning, i.e. flashing light or marker. It is very difficult to see under the bridge for oncoming boats. There are many, many canoes & paddle boats, etc. which makes it so much more dangerous. I am surprised no one has been injured. What does it take for the town to do the right thing?
Howard Bargman says
Last week while boating from Fairy Lake to Vernon, I went under the bridge leading into town and hit rocks. There was only one way to enter. I have learned from the town and my marina, that several other boaters have also hit rocks in this spot. Why hasn’t the town placed marker buoys or warning signs? They obviously knew the danger and didn’t take steps to advise the boaters.
If you also hit rocks in this spot, please text me at 416 505-0411. Let’s see how many other duped souls there are. Maybe we can entice the town to make restitution for their lack of care.
Anna-Lise Kear says
The upcoming election. Be prepared, when in doubt, the Conservatives will escalate the east-west divide in Canada. These issues are not new, many leaders of all political stripes have worked very hard to attend the needs of each of its geographical regions. My thoughts — critically think through any overblown rhetoric in electioneering concerning this Canadian issue.
Allen Markle says
Sue Mckenzie: I don’t know whether I should feel chastened or ‘chuffed’ at being called out here, but I’ll stay neutral and appreciate that there are those who realize we have a problem. There is no being pessimistic or optimistic about something to which there is no option but to deal with it, or….
We all know what the challenge is; our unabated consumption of everything. It is mostly a western attitude, our needing to possess every new piece of junk industry can produce and then they expect the general populace to deal with the waste. Our attitude must change.
A good part of the hesitancy in dealing with the present situation rests with the people we elect. The lawmakers. They will not initiate much that, however right, or prudent, might get them unelected. And that’s what must be done.
We need to unelect anyone who believes that they are fighting global warming when they sell an oil that is disproportionally dirty and must be mixed with naptha or natural gas to make it flow. Check the Kalamazoo pipeline failure and the damage dilbit (diluted bitumen) has wreaked on that river.
We need to unelect a lawmaker who wants to rip a new highway across a green belt to reduce commuting time for people that will live in the subdivisions that will be built on land that is, at present, off limits.
We need to unelect people who will issue permits for clearcutting ancient forest and then not require much in the way or forest remediation to be done. Without the cooling of the forest, the slash is prone to drying and burning. Our own west coast and the Amazon rainforest are sad examples of this practice. And China is visiting the same fate upon eastern forest regions.
Every little thing is now a problem. A 2016 report in ‘ChEnected” by Daniel Matthews, gives us information issued by the payment company ‘Square’. The topic was the issuing of receipts, those little chits of paper everyone discards, and their impact on the environment. The report states that 1Billion gallons of water is consumed(wasted), 10 million trees are felled, 250M gallons of oil is required to transport and distribute them after manufacture and in the end they are just 1.5B pounds of waste. That is each year!
It also says that the thermal paper, which these receipts are, contain BPA, a known carcinogen. I think that the FDA contests this last statement.
Another ‘heat warning blankets Alberta’ notification just popped up on my computer and though I noticed, I doubt very much that our lawmakers paid much heed. They still think we need to sell oil!
I hope you are young and very dedicated. Rebuilding an attitude and a society will tax us all. As will these governments.
Jacquie Howell says
I am concerned about the noise from the boats in the section of the North Muskoka River from Lake Vernon to the Town of Huntsville. There is at least two large inboard (24-30 feet long) that travel this waterway. When they come under the Railroad bridge and until they pass under the Center Street bridge, we can not hear our radio/TV or hold any conversation in our condo on the 4th floor. Is there not a noise pollution law? Thank you Michael Mason for your thoughts I can not understand why any boats of this size are on these small lakes!!!
Sue McKenzie says
Allen Markle, thank you for your extensive comment on climate and the need for immediate action. You do not seem very optimistic about the declaration of a Climate Emergency by Huntsville Council with a goal of 50% reduction in greenhouse gases by 2030, zero by 2050. You call this a gesture. Please note, the resolution requires the development of a Community Action Plan for Huntsville with community engagement in the development of the plan.
You state: “So I will appreciate the Huntsville Council for making this gesture, although as of yet it is only that, a gesture. For extra points, might they outline for us the steps they hope to achieve along the years, so we might monitor our progress.”
With respect, here’s your opportunity to take action to make sure this is not just a ‘gesture’ on the part of Council (which it is NOT). This is your opportunity to get in there and ensure that a strong plan is developed and is implemented asap, beginning THIS year, with progress being monitored annually. Let the Mayor know YOU are ready to step up to head up the Community Working Group that will provide input for the plan; that you are ready to seek out the diverse voices in the community that need to be consulted on what should be included in
the plan; that you are ready to ensure this happens, rather than awaiting the Town’s ‘outline’. There is no more time to WAIT.
Nancy Long says
I’ve been to hutcheson beach daily for swimming lessons the town is providing there. It’s good that the kids have something to participate in. However, the conditions at the beach are not so good. I wonder if there is a reason the town cannot do maintenance there. I see the beach showcased in the town literature for visitors. It’s not an asset at the moment.
Allen Markle says
Did you hear the first installment being rung up on the purchase of a coming election? I did this morning, when it was announced there was a federal plan afoot to fund daycare in BC, the same to be coming soon to the Maritimes, the project to be in operation in five years. I wrote here earlier of my thoughts on government plans that won’t come to fruition until long after their mandate is expired. ‘If we don’t get elected, you won’t get this.’ So I guess it is now time to kick this irksome partner to the dirt and establish a truly elected dictatorship ( read majority government.)
Covid spending has cost Canada about 400B. The headline read ‘exceed 381B’, but that’s close enough to 400 for me. That is about 20% of our annual GDP! I’m not good in dollar values such as that and it doesn’t seem to be the forte of our government either. $400,000,000,000.00 is a lot of dollars.
Keystone XL was only $1.5B with an additional $6B loan guarantee and Trans-mountain was another $4.5B to purchase with the estimate of another $8B or so to finish. But both of these projects seem doomed and not items to mention when you want to kick off an election.
I can’t see people voting against a government that has been supporting them for a year and a half, and we know how much that support has cost and is still costing. So brace yourself folks, because this is about to to hurt. A lot!
My wallet just fell into a drawer and I can hear it sobbing.
Michael Mason says
Why are boats allowed to have above water exhaust in the Muskoka lakes. It is not possible to be 5 miles from shore and run these very loud engines. There are laws in place and it would seem little enforcement. Our cottage on Indian River is located in an echo chamber that when these boats come by, our windows vibrate. When I have approached these boat owners, I have been both apologized to and told to go away. Muskoka to me means peace and quiet, not so much for these very disrespectful boat owners.
This is my first post on this topic and it may ruffle a few folks, I just hope it starts a conversation.
James Wagg says
I agree with Kathryn H. When did it become ok to vandalize property and get away with it in the name of protest? As I enjoyed Canada day. I was appalled not by the actions of leaders and church groups that were involved in the residential schools, but by the people who openly defied the laws of our land and destroyed or defaced property. Proudly posting pictures on social media, and what was worse is there were no consequences for their actions.
I fully appreciate the effects on the emotions of those involved in the schools. And we should celebrate that we are in a country that we can speak our minds and have the right to protest, nothing in those freedoms include damaging property. Without laws we have anarchy, and that is not the kind of country I want to celebrate. Just my thoughts
Allen Markle says
Around the first of July, Huntsville council declared a climate emergency. I suppose most people have been aware for some time that the world’s weather systems are changing; but they say, better late than never. There are so many facets to the climate debate; concerned scientists and citizens on one side and governments on the other. And make no mistake, there is no government yet, with the desire and willingness to face itself and big oil, to reduce carbon emissions.
Of the top 50 national oil producers, there are only three countries that produce dirtier oil than Canada, but Canadian governments have continually promoted oil production and annually offer billions in subsidies to mega-corporations so they can continue digging it from the earth and transporting it around the globe.
Using this dirty Canadian product contributes disproportionally to global warming.
But our government doesn’t seem to be capable of tearing itself from the lure of oil and will continue to batter taxpayers and their wallets against this problem in an effort to achieve the impossible. If we can’t drill a hole or build a pipeline, Canada is unemployed? Why not divert those billions to developing technology to deal with the problem and then sell that. Someone will develop products to deal with aspects of pollution and global warming , but if it isn’t us, then we will have to buy it from them.
The majority of our citizens are in denial or apathetic; for example, the car idling in front of the Liquor Store. When I asked the lady why, I was told it was so the “doggy-woggy didn’t get too hot” and the window powered back up, dismissing me and the problem that was not important to her. And it was not volts that powered that car.
On the wall behind me there is a 3’x6′ map of the world and on it I can find India, China and the United States, the worlds’ three biggest oil and coal consumers; not one of them is seriously interested in reigning in their consumption of either. On that same map, I cannot find Muskoka. I know where it is and how important it is to me, having been my home for all these years, but I also realize where it fits in the scheme of things.
So our council made the gesture and joined this local initiative, which is okay I guess but somewhat disingenuous, inasmuch as the result won’t register for 29 years. I won’t be able to note on Doppler of a job well done, nor will some of them be in any state to read it.
I detest when governments outline their programs and indicate that we should see the results, any number of years beyond the end of their mandate. If they are not re-elected for the next 12 years or so, then the programs they are promoting will not be carried through.
Deficit reduction, balanced budgets, rescue helicopters, fighter aircraft, childcare programs and sundry other election carrots have all crashed on the rocks of the election itself.
Lao-tzu wrote that ‘The journey of 1000 miles begins beneath one’s feet’. With that first step so to speak, and I would like governments and my local council to outline the steps they will take along the way so that they and I will be able to see if there really is a desire to achieve something. We might not complete the journey but we will be able to monitor if we are, or are not, making headway.
This is a daunting undertaking, because science doesn’t know whether there is any way of reversing the devastation man is inflicting on his rather sensitive planet. We might slow global temperature rise but we are taxing earth’s resilience to the edge.
So I will appreciate the Huntsville Council for making this gesture, although as of yet it is only that, a gesture. For extra points, might they outline for us the steps they hope to achieve along the years, so we might monitor our progress.
Kathryn Henderson says
I would like to know why burning the pride flag is vandalism and punished accordingly but crowds can knock over the queens statues and pour paint over them and nothing is done to stop this?
Jim Sinclair says
With the threeat that is looming over us all, – heat waves, forest fires, why are we not hearing any statements from our Huntsville Town Council outlining some preparations for cooling centers, emergency power generators and so forth. There are several venues around town that could be used to take care of the population in this regard.
We do have a Public Safety Officer I heard, and I am curious as to what preparations are in the works for skyrocketing high temperatures. Right now, -today while it is still fairly cool, shuld be the time to take a good look at the forests surrounding our entire Town, (not counting denuded Forbes’ Hill or Mount Baldy) and thinning out the dead and dying trees. More so the trees that will surely fall across our main roads if we continue getting the high winds of late. The roadway into Kimberly Clark is girded with dead trees held up only by the dead bark sheathing. If these fell across the road and something were to go wrong at KC the fire department would need to hack it’s way through this stuff. Surely there should be some emergency preparedness plan in place?
jerry paris says
People complain about tree cutting by developers. Part of this was brought on by people who would by a home in a subdivision, in the era when developers would take down trees as they built homes. Home prices would be based on using all the available building lots in their plot of land, But the new home owners would go to town councils and demand that the fifty percent of the property be left as forest. This meant that the first sold homes were under priced and the remainder could not be built. Developers learned to go in, cut them down, problem solved. In Toronto people are stopped from putting additions on their homes if tree must be cut. In huntsville if you do not cut a field for two years its full of young trees.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Are you tired of populism yet? I am. Recently Provincial Conservative McNaughton pitted university educated and qualified tradespeople against each other. The reality is that our society needs Both. If the pandemic has taught nothing else, it has shown us that united we are better and we are wholly interdependent on each other. We have also lived in the reality of being physically distanced for our public health and our public good.
Populism is emotional abuse of the electorate. Division by stereotypes (e.g. buck-a-beer trades people vs. ?what, wine-drinking academics?). Surprise, there are people who are both university educated and qualified trades people! As an electorate, we need to lay bare populism for the messages it sends. Who are the new “elites” that we are now supposed to despise? Thank you for reading and thinking about this.
Tamara de la Vega says
Hi John,
The two links below might help:
https://doppleronline.ca/huntsville/planning-committee-gives-new-owners-of-former-huntsville-haven-subdivision-green-light-for-revised-plan/
https://huntsvilleon.civicweb.net/document/45307/Z_34_2020_HTE%20_%20S2020-08%20-%20Rayville%20Development.pdf?handle=532724D5ACDF4747A0B562CC85BAA13B
John Tuttle says
With so much focus on trees lately and the unrestricted cutting of them with respect to healthy trees. My lot at two Hibberd Lane for as far as the eye can see directly behind me has been completely clear-cut by a developer , we didn’t have an opportunity to do anything about it they just came in and clear-cut it this past March there must be a thousand acres that have been clear cut ,the land drainage in my yard has been affected I used to have a flock of 50 wild Turkey I had a dozen deer as well as bears they’re all gone. Nobody seems to say anything about it in the news a lot of the reason the owners on this Lane four families moved here because of the forest backdrop and now the land has been completely raped regraded and I was just wondering if anybody has an opinion?
brian tapley says
I find the indigenous children buried, unmarked in residential school property simply beyond comprehension.
These schools were essentially boarding schools, still a common type of school all over the world. Most universities are essentially boarding schools as very few of their students actually live close enough to the school that they attend to live at home, nor I expect would a lot of university students wish to live at home anyway at that stage of their life.
The younger the students, the more care the school must provide.
What I find unbelievable, unconscionable, unexplained and reprehensible (pick any word you like) is how it could be that this number of students could die and be buried with no record and no communication to their parents and family. Apparently not even a letter!
There is simply no possible excuse for this on the part of those who were running these schools. None at all!
At the absolute minimum, the parents should have been contacted, quickly and in their own language and the sad situation of their child’s death explained to them and some kind or arrangement for whatever traditional burial was normal for such a child’s death made swiftly. This would be the minimum.
Following this, each and every death should have been investigated by the government operating the schools to determine the cause, establish blame and penalties to those in their operation who were at fault, if any, and steps taken to prevent a recurrence. This too should have been communicated to the parents who’s child was involved. This too would be the minimum.
Somehow none of this was done. Not only was this not done but the dead person was “hidden” so that most likely no responsibility was accepted by the authorities in charge. No proper grave, no notification, not even a record. This is way beyond any excusable behavior, and this was not an isolated case. It now seems like maybe over a thousand cases like this occurred.
We can now try in some way to make some restitution but the damage has been done. The kids are dead. Nobody took proper responsibility. No reasonable notification was attempted. It is a horrible situation.
The best we can do now is to do our best to insure nothing like this ever happens again and maybe in some way restitution can be provided to the families who lost their children but nothing can compensate for a loss like this. Maybe systemic changes to ensure this can never happen again is the restitution.
To be a bit fair to our former leaders, it was and still is, virtually impossible to provide schooling to a vast area with a few tiny hamlets of population. Even today, with wireless communication, which one has to remember did not exist when these schools were created, it is a near impossible task.
One needs to wonder however, how important it is to try to “educate” some of these people in our preconceived way. For example, I know I would fail miserably at trying to survive in the arctic communities of that day but these people did so as a matter of normal life. If knowing how to survive and live in these conditions is a form of “education” maybe our efforts do drive English or French into these kids heads were simply misguided right from the start. Better if we had learned their native language and then tried to enhance their already considerable knowledge with a few things that might actually have been useful to these native people rather than try to change them to fit our model, a model that quite simply does not work well in their location. We could have done this without residential schools entirely.
Best we remember this as we go forward. Try to do a better job.
Brenda Duncan says
After all we have been through in the last year and a half, there is finally something good to talk about…a Canadian hockey team finally going to the Stanley Cup Playoffs.
I, for one, am not a Montreal Canadian’s (or Habs) fan. My loyalty still lies with the Toronto Maple Leafs (although at this point, I don’t know why).
I will be cheering for Montreal and hoping for the best possible outcome. Right now, at this point, they are not our rivals or opponents; they are Canadians first and foremost! I think everyone should step away from their team loyalties and get behind the only Canadian team who has made it this far in the playoffs in a very long time. We all should be very proud of them and what they have accomplished.
Go Habs Go!!! Bring home the Cup!
Allen Markle says
I think I heard that the Township of Muskoka Lakes had issued ‘stop work’ orders against a couple of development projects in their area. This was done because they, ‘Muskoka Lakes’ actually have by-laws pertaining to both tree cutting and site preparation! Imagine! The population of the township is about 7,000 people compared to about 21,000 in Huntsville. And yet they have saw fit to put such by-laws in the books.
Do you suppose our council might be wise to nip over there and get a copy of those by-laws or have one faxed to them if everyone is otherwise occupied. Maybe it could be incorporated into our own by-laws and save a lot of council time actually attempting to create the regulation for themselves. If that is even happening.
And to Kathryn Henderson and Nancy Long, I attempted to contact a councilor, fitting that maximum character count in that little window, and heard nothing in reply. I also pointed out to a road crew that at the edge of the paved surface of a section of road, it drops almost vertically into a 5 foot ditch. May have piqued their curiosity by didn’t stir much interest.
Though one of you ladies has and the other has not contacted the town with your observations, might I point out that the results have been the same.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Election front and centre. John Ivison’s “O’Toole’s pro-Canada speech may resonate with voters tired of apologies”(NP June 23/21). He explains that Federal Conservatives are trying to find the right key for their campaign messages to voters & indeed a number of balloons are being floated to that end.
#1. “build up Canada” Is this “make Canada great again?”, “I’m okay, you’re okay?”, “Build back better”?
This message is to reinforce that the current generation does not bear direct responsibility for the past, and also suggests that Canadians have a minimal tolerance for hearing and learning about parts of its past -the ones not previously uncovered.
#2. He also equated taking down statues as opposite with the need to build up Canada (?more statues on the horizon?) -too tired of apologizing (in other words, aren’t we getting tired of this? being shown the realities of the darker side of Canadian history?)
Well, we could become magical thinkers and just wish it all away as some of our neighbours demonstrate to the south, citing their “cancel culture wars” (whatever that is).
I say, when the Conservatives face the current reality of Climate Change and when they fully endorse educating all Canadians about some of the darker realities of our past (not just glorifying the War of 1812), we will be able to build up and into a future for our children and fellow Canadians.
What do you think will build up the future for our children, grandchildren, and fellow Canadians?
Brian Tapley says
Well!, it certainly seems that conservancy land swaps are much like poking a bear with a stick or kicking a bees nest. I hope this gets sorted out.
On a different topic, I think it is pretty pitiful that we have to bribe people with cash payments and lotteries to get vaccinated.
After all, these people are the product of our “world class” education system and to have to bribe them to get a vaccine shot at this point in history, with all the data out there and no costs to worry about… well it is just plain pitiful and represents a failure of our education system. It probably also represents a failure to adequately communicate the necessity for vaccination but this has been lost in the conflicting instructions and various conspiracy theories that float on the back waters of the internet.
We should be able to do much better.
Janet Hayward says
I would like to thank everyone who supported keeping the Nelson Head Nature Reserve at 25 Town Line Road West for the people of Huntsville as is. I was amazed by how quickly opposition to the land trade grew, with many letters written, and even “Stop the Swap” signage posted. I am glad that more people are now aware that this property is there for their use. I hope that present and future generations of townspeople will enjoy the natural surroundings of the Nelson Head Nature Reserve for many years to come.
Aldine Head
Frances Botham says
FOR THE NELSON HEAD NATURE RESERVE SUPPORTERS
Imagine seeing into the future. It’s 2121. A century ahead.
A little girl and her mother are walking in the grass in a forested area.
“Oh Mommy, this is such a wonderful place. Look at all the daisies! Aren’t they pretty! Look here at all these little yellow flowers. Oh, my! I like this place!”
“Come on dear, let’s go and sit on that log over there under that tree. There’s a little stream nearby.”
“Wow! Mommy look. What’s this? It’s so soft and green!”
“Why, that’s called moss. Look over there. That’s a different kind of moss.”
“Listen, listen! What is that? It’s a little song.”
“It’s called a cricket dear. It’s chirping. Look, there it is!”
“Oh Mommy! Can we come back to this place again? I love it here. It’s magical. What do they call this place?”
“It’s a nature reserve.”
“But how did it get here?”
“A lady donated it so that all the people could come here and enjoy it forever.”
“You mean she just gave it?”
“Yes, that’s right. About a hundred years ago.”
“Wow! She must have been a very nice lady!”
“Yes, she was. She certainly was.”
KENNETH MOSER says
Would have thought your Lead Article would have been Swing Bridge now open and new traffic patterns
Dan Wilk says
Overnight the town of Huntsville has posted the 3 hour time limit parking signs at the lots on Minerva and beside Bell. Where are the employees of the downtown businesses suppose to park? The curling club is free parking for now, until they have tournaments, etc. Or until the town makes that change as well. Are we supposed to take a cab to work so we don’t get a parking ticket? Are we supposed to use our breaks and lunches to move our cars around to avoid hitting the three hour time limit? The town did not notify the businesses and did not advise them of an alternative parking option for the employees that keep the businesses running.
Kathryn Henderson says
I haven’t tried to get hold of the town but there is a very nasty deep hole on Florence Street down by high school. Really makes a nasty noise if I forget it’s there and drive on it.
Nancy Long says
Is it just me? Or has it become more difficult to reach people at the Town of Huntsville. I’ve filled out the road concern report, a week ago. No response. No follow up. No way to contact by phone.
Michelle Ferguson says
Should this travesty of justice and disrespect to Mrs. Head actually be approved I will be an adjacent property owner to the reserve. Of course, it would no longer be the Nelson Head Nature Reserve land as those boundaries would have already been compromised.
I have an extra 10 acres of inaccessible land, the same as the Tilstra’s. With a significant stream, wetland and rock outcropping this would enhance The Muskoka Conservancy land portfolio. Now they would have 20 extra acres for the price of 4 acres.
I could certainly use the million dollars the land swapped two acres on Town Line Rd. could generate. Or, is this only a deal for a Town of Huntsville employee? How much cash would I have to pay forward? Who would I pay it to?
Thing is … a million dollars would not sway my objection to having the Nelson Head Nature Reserve original generous donation from Aldine Head changed.
Greed is poison to the Soul.
Wendy J Brown says
I am also against the land trade I think its terrible that they want to change this gift that was given so generously. But then again remember a certain politician who wanted to sell off the park that was given to the town to remember the men that fought in the 1st world War. It’s to the point where I wouldn’t be surprised if no one wants to donate land anymore or be careful to wrap it in so much red tape its protected,
Nancy Hines says
After reading the information regarding the Nelson Head Nature Reserve, I wish to thank Aldine Head for her generosity in donating this parcel of land to the citizens of Huntsville. We wish her many years of health and happiness.
Patricia Wainwright says
Email sent to Huntsville Planning Committee re Nelson Head Nature Reserve
To the Planning Committee, Mayor Terziano and Council,
I am writing to object to the rezoning application of 25 Town Line Road West, which will in effect, change land intended to be preserved in its natural state to developed land.
My name is Pat Wainwright. I am the grand-daughter of Nelson Head and the niece of Aldine Head. I grew up in Huntsville and attended HHS before attending university and eventually moving to Vancouver Island.
In 2012 my aunt generously donated the 9.18 acre parcel of land (25 Town Line Road West) to the Muskoka Heritage Trust, now called the Muskoka Conservancy. She donated the land, as a family legacy, and so that it could be kept in its natural state and be a piece of undisturbed land for town people to walk through. In conversation with Conservancy staff and directors at the time, she and I, were assured that the property, to be called, Nelson Head Nature Reserve, would remain as is and be protected as is. Muskoka Heritage Trust director, Kristie Virgoe stated, “We will be protecting it from development, having it in the ownership of the trust.” (quote; What’s Up Muskoka, September 5, 2012)
The proposed land exchange and application for rezoning, (Z/09/2021/HTE), do not match the original intention of the donation or the agreed upon conditions. This proposed transaction brings to question the trustworthiness of the Conservancy as well as the Town of Huntsville’s role in endorsing this exchange by agreeing to the rezoning application. Mrs. Head, and our family, strongly object to the development of the 25 Town Line Road West property, part of the Nelson Head Nature Reserve.
We appreciate your sincere consideration of our concerns, and urge you to support the original intention of the donation by rejecting the Application No.:Z/09/2021/HTE.
Thank you.
Patricia Wainwright (nee Antcliffe)
Nanaimo, BC
Addendum; Thank all of you who have been offering Aunt Skip your support. She has felt very alone and minimized in this process.
Scott Young says
Just two quick clarifications on some recent comments on the Nelson Head Nature Reserve.
First, the land exchange will not mean that the nature reserve will become land locked. It will still retain the majority of its road frontage on Town Line Road and all of it on Brunel Road.
Second, there are no buildings on the nature reserve and the site of the old Head homestead will remain protected.
We encourage concerned people to read the town’s planning report which features some useful sketches for anyone who is interested in learning more.
Mike MacDonald says
I would like to say thank you to all the supporters AGAINST the proposed land swap involving the Nelson Head Nature Reserve property. Mrs. Head is also very grateful as she thought she was in this alone in this battle of keeping her wishes intact.
A comment in response to Scott Young’s most recent post :
“since it was brought to our attention, we will be erecting a plaque” – maybe to your attention Mr. Young, but the conservancy knew about this in 2012 when the land was donated. You might have not been the director at the time, but don’t make it sound that this is a new request all of a sudden. Your organization has been negligent for 9 years in this request. Your organization has also been negligent in ensuring the zoning was changed as stated by other commenters.
I sat in Mrs. Head’s kitchen on Thursday and had a conversation with this generous woman. She told me that approximately a year ago she and a woman representing the conservancy went to her lawyer’s office and discussed this. Mrs. Head made it clear at that time that she wished the property to remain “as it is”. Since then she has been contacted by the conservancy telling her “how wonderful this would be” and “how someone must be crazy not to think this was a good idea”.
I asked her what her wishes were today? She told me that they hadn’t changed since the day she donated the property, “to remain the way it is”.
While I was there she called Scott Young and to him exactly that, that she wanted the property to remain the way it is. She also told him that any further communication in relation to this was to go through me.
That was on Thursday the 10th at noon. Since then, the same woman that had been in the Mrs. Head’s lawyer’s office has called her. Ms. Abbott is a volunteer for the conservancy, and once again tried to tell Mrs. Head what a wonderful thing this would be, etc., etc.
My response to Muskoka Conservancy and anyone affiliated with them – DO NOT contact Mrs. Head again. She is feeling bullied by you. She had made her wishes for the property to you in black and white, no further explanation required. Any further communication will be considered harassment, and to the best of my knowledge is a criminal offence.
Mrs. Head is aware, as Mr. Young has pointed out that ultimately the decision is in the hands of the Town as she donated the property and no longer owns it.
I sincerely hope that that the councilors vote to quash this request, or as Ms. Botham has stated, who in their right mind would donate any land to the town or any organization if their wishes with it aren’t going to followed through.
Allen Markle says
In the ‘Who We Are’ portion of the Muskoka Conservancy mission statement, I don’t see the part that clearly announces that the program will swap what has been donated to it, as it deems fit.
I don’t have access to the agreement they have with the Head family, but I doubt such a clause was in that agreement either.
I believe the Conservancy is a good program and does good work, but I feel this is bad example of what they do. If it is a land trader, that should be noted in the mission statement, because I’m sure people who leave it land ‘in trust’ would like to be able to trust the program.
Is this ‘swapping’ common practice? How many times have they done this already? Is this to establish precedent?
The little stream still trickles as it did when I was younger, and the spring is protected from everyone but the owner of the land, snugged as it is behind the property entrusted to the Conservancy by Aldine Head.
The Conservancy should get the land rezoned as was to have been done years ago and give up this foray into trading donated properties.
People should be able to trust that their wishes are adhered to.
The plaque is a nice touch. Whos’ land will it be on?
Allen Markle
Susan Zimmer says
Regarding The Nelson Head Nature Retreat,
As the town gets busier and more development occurs, the land is being swallowed up. I can’t think of another beautiful piece within the town core that isn’t being eyed up for future development. The Nelson Head Nature Retreat is visibly beautiful from the road and should not be touched. Giving away 2 acres on Townline Road which will be developed in exchange for 10 acres that is land-locked doesn’t seem fitting. Having spoken with Mr. Scott Young from Muskoka Conservancy last week regarding the property in question, I may be a naysayer and narrow-minded but I can live with that. No hard feelings.
Robert MacDonald says
I believe the original intent was to have this property available as a natural park like site visible for people walking or driving on Brunel Rd., NOT to be moved back behind more houses out of site, with the proposed swap. Natural property across the road by Forbes Hill is another good example of poor future planning by the Town.
It is never too late to start to get things under control.
JOHN WYDRA says
I’m going to add my 2 cents to the property exchange at Brunel and Townline. After watching the denuding and raping of Forbes hill (which is sad but have to grudgingly accept because it was private property and all channels were legal) I’m glad the citizens are staying informed on this developement. On face value this exchange does not look like a bad idea. It doubles the size of the park, but it goes against the wishes of the benifactor, Ms Head. I have another option. Lets start a crowd fund to purchase the other property and add it to the existing park. It is land locked, very difficult to develope thus its value is deminished except as a natural park. Here in Huntsville we are fortunate to live in all this surrounding beauty but if we keep giving it away we’ll look like Toronto soon. We have one large park, Hunter’s bay trail and a few other small ones large enough for a picnic table and a park bench, but none compare to tranquilty and serenity of this property on Brunel. Take a walk in it. It takes you away but be carefull. It is wild and rough.
Nancy Long says
I’m in agreement with others who do NOT want this land swap. And again, I reiterate, the lack of Town of Huntsville’s initiative in maintaining and providing recreation space for the residents here. It is deplorable and will only get worse.
Scott Young says
Last year, through the efforts of volunteers and donors, Muskoka Conservancy added conservation protection to approximately 400 acres of wetlands and forests in Muskoka.
It’s not always smooth sailing , but we are proud of the work we do.
At Nelson Head Nature Reserve, we are simply trying to do more of the same thing— protect more space for nature. That’s it. Plain and simple.
It is surprising to us that there’s any opposition to this, but we accept that everyone has a right to an opinion.
There will be a public meeting next week. If the town decides that expanding the nature reserve is not in the best interest of Huntsville, we accept that.
And if that happens, we will just carry on working hard with a cast of dedicated volunteers and supporters to identify and protect more conservation land elsewhere.
Oh and yes, since it has been brought to our attention, we will be erecting a plaque at the Nelson Head Nature Reserve regardless of the outcome.
No hard feelings.
George Hines says
Land Swap 139 Brunel rd and 25 Townline rd
The issue here is with the Muskoka Conservancy. I often wondered who owned this property and did not know that it was available to the public to walk on. I question the MC why they never had it re-zoned and a plaque stating it was The Nelson Head Reserve. Basically they have done nothing to this land since it was donated.
Regarding the land Swap we don’t know how much money they will receive in the exchange for for land. The board of directors must realize that the land Jeremiah Tilsra and Margaet Stead will get can create 7 new residential lots under the current RR2 zoning with a value of $1.4 million. Surely they wouldn’t just Swap land for land. Money generated from this land Swap could be used to make the Reserve an enjoyable place to visit. Perhaps something could be done with the old stone house.
Probably a Public Meeting should take place and the prior to going to the planning committee.
Frances Botham says
Re: A. Head land swap 25 Town Line Rd and 139 Brunel Rd
I am appalled at the arrogance of the Muskoka Conservancy employee, Scott Young’s comments. He tells us, the people of Huntsville, that this land swap is a really good thing for nature and all the residents of Huntsville? I am sorry, sir, but you assume and you are wrong.
Aldine Head generously donated this 9.18 acres of land to the Conservancy with the specific desire to keep this property intact with only minor adaptations such as walking trails. She is the donor and those terms and conditions could not be more specific. Why would there not be compliance? I thought the Muskoka Conservancy operated with a code of ethics of the highest standards. This makes one question that, doesn’t it? Mr Young, if you wish to comply with developers wishes and work with them, you should do so, but not under the guise of the Muskoka Conservancy. One cannot help but wonder where does the Conservancy Board of Directors stand on this?
If this proposal usurps Aldine Head’s initial intent for the future of this property, then who would ever want to donate any land to the Conservancy again?
Peter R. Dirks says
IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT OUR PRIMENISTER TAKES THE RESPOSIBILITY IN FIENDING A NEW GOVERNAL GENERAL FOR OUR COUNTRY , IF WE HAVE A CRISIS IN OUR COUNTRY ON THE POLITICAL LEVEL , THE GOVERNOR GENERAL HAS THE FINAL DECISION.
THEREFORE WE NEED A NEW GOVERNOR GENERAL NOW !!
Terry McCaffery says
I am urging all who are against the proposed “land swap” deal on the Town Line road to email Kirstin Maxwell-Director Of Development Services at the Town Hall to voice your concerns about this matter! The more people who do this will strengthen our case that this deal is a bad one for our town!
Wendy J Brown says
I have a question that I can’t seem to get answered. Are there any by laws or rules about boarding houses when the owner dosnt live there? Are there fees , are there inspections?
Michelle Ferguson says
Thank you all for your comments and calls supporting Mrs. Head.
Mr. Young, The Muskoka Conservancy is negligent in not zoning the property conservation land nine years ago when it was donated. Had that been correctly done we would not be having this discussion.
The facts you have stated as reasons why it is a good idea to swap the land are all reasons why a building permit would not be issued for the property. It will always be protected by whoever owns the property. Your involvement is not required for protection.
Mrs. Head wishes the property to remain as she donated it, as the original homestead property. She believed it had all been zoned as conservation land nine years ago. Her wishes should be honored.
Brian Tapley says
Don’t you love the phones today.
1- You can’t look up anyone’s cell number anywhere so now effectively all numbers are unlisted.
2- So you call someplace and then they want you to push a number option. well to do this you have to take the phone away from your ear and select the keypad and then push the number (3 operations and you can’t hear anything during this time) Then you put the phone back to your ear and guess what… the site did not wait for you do do this and your lost somewhere in answerland.
3- Your multi hundred dollar phone has no ability to have a new battery installed easily but the battery in it now lasts for less than half a day if you don’t talk and about one minute if it is below zero outside. You do use your phone outside right??
4- Any call for any kind of service will require you to remember a list of passwords and secret identification codes and finally you will get a sales pitch and an indeterminate wait so long the phone usually dies first.
5-Then there is Murphy’s law that the call you get will have a bunch of critical information to be conveyed and it will come to you as you are hanging half off a scaffold with a paint brush in one hand…. such a great place to take notes critical to your car insurance or mortgage or some such item.
I remember the old “dumb” phone. The one that did nothing you did not tell it to do and worked nearly always and you could look up a business or personal number easily.
Maybe Siri does not like me as she tries but is often of little help.
Em Arde says
Hmm. Scott’s explanation make a lot of sense. The logic seems pretty sound. And the end result of the proposed land exchange seems to be very much in line with the Conservancy’s mission. Thanks for clarifying, Scott.
George Hines says
I never realized what was happening with this piece of land until today. I Agee with those opposing this swap of land . Make sure you look at the agenda for the mtg for June 16/ 21 and take part in the Zoom mtg. This is your opportunity to voice your concerns . The Agenda is usually posted on the Friday before the mtg
Ron Waines says
OUR MISSION
Plain and simple, our mission is nature conservation in Muskoka.
We envision a healthy, resilient Muskoka that conserves natural spaces for our own and future generations.
To achieve our mission, Muskoka Conservancy is a registered charity and a Canadian corporation that operates as a land trust.
That means we acquire ownership of properties and legally registered agreements with private property owners to protect land for nature conservation purposes, forever.
I just read the above statement from the Muskoka Conservancy website. Note the word “forever”.
Enough said. Respect the wishes of the person(s) donating the land.
Scott Young says
Everyone is entitled their opinion, but in my opinion the proposed land exchange is a really good thing for nature and all the residents of Huntsville.
In a nutshell, MC proposes to exchange 2 acres on Townline Rd for 10 acres of adjacent land in order to nearly double the amount of protected land that makes up the Nelson Head Nature Reserve.
The added conservation land will also protect the headwaters of the small creek that runs across the property.
Currently Muskoka Conservancy (MC) owns approximately 9 acres that was donated by Aldine Head. When the opportunity to expand the nature reserve from 9 acres to 17 acres and protect the headwaters of the small creek came up, as a nature conservation organization, we felt it was our responsibility to seriously consider the offer. We sent a team of volunteers with biology and ecology backgrounds to the site. The more we looked into it, the reasons why this land exchange makes sense for nature conservation only became more clear. The key reasons are:
• a stream flowing through the nature reserve has its headwaters on the backlot we seek to acquire. The exchange will ensure this spring is protected.
• Natural properties tend to have reduced ecological values near their edges, particularly when those edges are hard up against urban development. Exchanging a small parcel adjacent to urban development for a larger backlot parcel not only increases the protected area, but it will also reduce or soften the so-called edge effects ensuring that more of the nature reserve has a chance to be natural.
These combined enhancements mean the Nelson Head Nature Reserve will not only become larger, but it will become more resistant and resilient to pressures like drought, pollution, and invasive species after the lands are exchanged. From a natural standpoint, both the quantity and quality will be improved.
I hope you will understand and appreciate that we are acting only with the intention of protecting more nature in Huntsville.
Scott Young
Muskoka Conservancy
Allen Markle says
It is mostly just shouting at the wind with our council. If there is any method they can imagine to clear cut or pave over the land in the name of collecting taxes they will do it. And rarely is it to the peoples advantage. The land that was bequeathed to the Conservancy is worth a lot of money in todays world and we, the people, won’t realize much from it. Some annual taxes on more condos, while the developer makes millions. It was donated to the Muskoka Conservancy to be green space but where is the dollar return in that? Council would have to create a park and they are not so inclined. And then maintenance!
If council is set on dumping the land, do it at fair market value, but to trade it for something that is useless, is ludicrous. What the town receives in return will be of no value, that seems obvious, because if it were, the developer would use it himself. Maybe he could just apply for a 66′ easement across the green space.
But it seems council is loathe to own anything that has to be maintained and has an annual cost of operation. The library and firehall must draw frowns. Maybe we could just lease them?
Volunteers restored the old train station, the town spend a bundle to repair the damage that the lack of maintenance had caused, and then dumped it for a toonie. They do seem to want to get their moneys worth!
Not that long ago, council considered repurposing land allocated as the site for a war memorial. A private citizen placed his own wallet and a lawyer in the path of that little foray.
About a month or so ago we were made aware of ‘dynamic thinking’ and thinking ‘outside the box’ when plans for a duplex in a farm field was being considered. This rental property is to be allowed in exchange for a garden that will operated on the land and the promised produce to to donated to a charity. This time council will receive some taxes and root crops! I sent a letter to a councilor about this and received neither a laugh nor a grunt. And certainly no reply.
I don’t have land I would bequeath to the Muskoka Conservancy. Ten men and sharp sticks couldn’t make me. Enough said.
Mike MacDonald says
In response to the well written comment by Michelle Ferguson about the proposed land swap involving the Nelson Head Nature Reserve, I would like to ad that this proposal is ludicrous.
Knowing Mrs. Head and her late husband for many years, her generosity in donating this parcel of land which used to be the location of her family’s homestead, was meant to be left in the natural state that it currently is so that it could be enjoyed by the residents of Huntsville and for animals and vegetation to have a undisturbed place to live.
To think that the Muskoka Conservancy feels that it is “Ok” to do a “land swap” or “exchange” with I believe Mr. Tillstra, so that he has a “easier “ which in turn would be a more profitable piece of property to develop, begs to question “what is in it for them.?”
In my opinion there must be something, because why else would you even consider it?
I’m sure that Mrs. Head would have second thoughts about donating this parcel of land knowing that something as disrespectful as this is even being considered.
As Ms. Ferguson has suggested, I urge anyone who believes this proposal should NOT go through, to email the Town of Huntsville and The Muskoka Conservancy and voice your opinion.
Bob MacDonald says
In regard to the proposed land swap, at Brunel Rd. and Town Line Rd, It is very hard to imagine the Town Planning and there high payed staff would even consider such a thing after all their recent blunders.
Is anyone steering this planning board, it makes one think not.
Michelle Ferguson says
It is necessary for me to avert my eyes when driving past the destruction of Forbes Hill. What was once beautiful dense forest is now to be home for yet another multi-unit building project to house those who can afford it. Certainly not affordable housing. This destruction of land may have been averted had the people had the opportunity to voice their opinion and have their suggestions heard. The voice of many, or so we like to hope.
With the hope that many voices will be heard I urge all residence of Huntsville to strongly object to the proposed land swap with the Muskoka Conservancy to a private land owner as posted in the Huntsville Forester May 27/21.
With a generous heart Mrs. Aldine Head donated 9.18 acres of land, to be called The Nelson Head Nature Reserve, on the corner of Brunel Rd. and running west up Town Line Rd. to the Heritage Trust (Muskoka Conservancy) for the citizens of Huntsville to enjoy undisturbed land in town for people to walk through. Her wish was to have no trails or motorized vehicles or parking and the land to remain as it was when her family lived there (see – Huntsville Forester Archives Sept. 5, 2012 – Heritage Trust (Muskoka Conservancy) gets Huntsville land donation).
The Muskoka Conservancy mission statement states their intention to ‘protect land for nature conservation, ‘forever’. It is bewildering why, and how can they, now decide to swap two acres of this donated land to one private land owner.
The land in question to be ‘swapped’ will always be protected by any current owner as it has little value, is land locked, and is unsuitable for development. The two acres of the Nature Reserve fronting on Town Line Rd. has considerable monetary value which would benefit only one property owner and take away from the 19,816 (2016 census – many more now) citizens it was originally bequeathed for. The one property owner would not only benefit financially obtaining the two acres on town services (possible eight building lots) they would get a tax deduction on retained property and still have the land in back yard of their home for enjoyment and use as desired. This is wrong.
So, I urge all citizens, the voice of many, to email planning @ Town of Huntsville regarding June 16/21 – 25 Town Line Rd. and 139 Brunel Rd. file Z/09/2021 (see – notices of consent B/23-24/2021/HTE) and strongly object to this land swap prior to it being a done deal. CC your council. Rally your friends. Save this forest and honor Aldine Head’s wishes. Thank you.
tim robertson says
Why are known Air BNB and private cottage rentals not being enforced during the lockdown. We have a local property on Lake of Bays at South Portage that has had several vehicles arrive every weekend for the past 2 months. (they are never the same cars) The property is listed on Air BNB at $500 per night. Specific rules include no cottage rentals during the stay at home order. An e-mail to the Township By-law officer received no response.
Who, then, is controlling this situation.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Can you sense an election coming? Today’s National Post article by John Robson, “In Canada, our governments don’t do hard” may help to set the stage.
Oh yea, another descriptor buzz word “hard”, which I gather refers to such things as “hard skills”- you know figures, economics. That, including a picture of a smiling JT with hand bent at the wrist is sure to attract (really? Will there be a follow up photo-op with DF or EO’T in football uniforms or combat gear?)
I have abhorred the “hard” vis-à-vis “soft” skills binary (you might read this as masculine/feminine or one set of skills as more important than the other). We need both, not either/or.
Robson does a decent job of summarizing this dynamic in his last paragraph, illustrating the paradox which presents to us as Canadians. He says, “So is keeping national and provincial governments solvent; saving the economy from collapse while protecting the vulnerable from COVID; holding Canada together while acknowledging, and when possible compensating for, past wrongs; maintaining national security in a hostile world; and preserving liberty as the only arrangement compatible with human dignity or effective public and private responses to challenges.”
Can’t help wondering if he would like to see more yelling, screaming in Parliament and on the upcoming campaign trail (the “hard” persona). We have only to remember the petulant screamer from the US –who gave some of us nightmares in his effort to appear leader-like. Watch the spin folks.
Oliver Klimek says
I have been a resident of Huntsville for 5 years and I am very happy to call this community my home. I like to spend time in River Mill Park but there is a problem…goose poop (sorry for the strong language). Has the town ever tried to solve this problem? Can anyone tell me the history of this issue?
Susan Bobyk says
Hi,
Total change of conversation. I like to run and bike ride regularly in Port Sydney and I just wanted to thank all the vehicles that slow down and/or pull over into the over lane when they go by. Summers a busy time and we all like to be outside as much as possible. It’s greatly appreciated.
Thanks! Have a safe summer.
Em Arde says
How about some tit-for-tat on the whole climate change / carbon footprint reduction stuff? I have chosen to be child free. Having children is about as carbon- and trash-generating a choice an individual can make. So I would like a free pass, thanks, on all the proposed carbon restrictions and other save-the-environment initiatives, Let me continue to use my fire pit. Let me keep my gasoline-powered car and lawn mover and weed whacker. Let me leave my furnace hooked up to natural gas, and skip the whole solar-panels-on-the-roof thing. Let me enjoy my delicious Keurig coffees without trying to shame me because we could stack K-cups to the moon and back, or some such thing. I think I have done my part and then some, just by not selfishly foisting upon this Earth another resource-consuming, waste-generating human being,
Chas Clark says
The Proposal to Ask Huntsville Town Council to Declare a Climate Emergency as Proposed by the Climate Action Muskoka.
A small group of activists have made a presentation to the Huntsville Council that they should declare a Climate Emergency, and in doing so, accept and comply with their 17 page manifesto. I have extracted what I think are some significant points in this document.
General
• Diversify urban areas into walkable non- car dependent communities.
• Reduce carbon footprint by 50% by 2030 and zero emissions by 2050.
• Tackling climate change will impact peoples’ lives and change our lifestyles.
Comment: So no cars in Huntsville and we all have to walk or bicycle unless we own an expensive electric car. Zero emissions means no wood fires or heating by oil or gas only solar or wind power to heat your home.
Buildings
• Passive housing with net zero requirements by the use of carbon smart materials.
• Build affordable social housing.
Comment: Huntsville is struggling to provide affordable housing and building costs are increasing daily. The dictate to use carbon smart materials will only push up the price further.
Economy
• Implement and utilize a participatory budget process
Comment: Does this mean that Climate Action Muskoka sees themselves involved in the Council budgetary process or what does it mean. As with all utopian ideals, there is not one costing of any of the proposals to show what the real cost of implementing this would be.
Education
• Economic benefits of a greener economy including improved health, increased employment and business opportunities.
Comment: What facts support this statement?
Energy
• Installation of solar panels on Muskoka residences and all municipal buildings.
• Develop a 100% renewable energy digital smart grid to provide fewer outages and lower and predictable energy costs.
• Provide incentives for the use of heat pumps in retrofits and require their installation in all new builds
Comment: With little wind in winter and loads of snow on solar panels, there is little hope that this avenue would provide sufficient power to the community nor heat their homes in a cost effective manner. Where is all the extra electrical power to come from for all the expensive electric cars we will be driving and the infrastructure to support them? As for heat pumps, the MTO fitted the Almaguin Information Centre with this system. Within 2 years, the system was removed as it did not provide sufficient heat for the staff and the electrical costs of running the many pumps continuously for 24 hours a day was astronomical.
Food Security
• Support local year round food supply projects to build Muskoka food sovereignty.
Comment: In the past, people built cold stores for their root vegetables to last through winter. It is difficult to see how this could develop into a year round proposal with the frosts, cold temperatures and snow that Muskoka gets every winter. If this is a move to hydroponics, a system that uses lots of electricity and water to grow vegetables in a heated building, them this method only increases the cost of the vegetables and can only produce a limited amount unable to sustain the Muskoka population.
Health
• Reduce air pollutants by vehicle traffic and winter salt use.
Comment: At last, one I agree with!
Tourism
• Develop laws to reduce the use of fossil fuel powered boats, jet skis and speedboats to reduce noise and carbon emissions and quiet lake periods of the day.
• Advocate for a renewed train service and improved bus service between Muskoka and the GTA and between communities in Muskoka
Comment: Good luck with that one regarding water traffic. I presume that the big heavy diesel carbon producing trains would be replaced by electric trains with an electrified line running from the GTA to North Bay at a cost of many billions.
Transport
• Convert all the Municipal fleet to electric vehicles.
• Council staff to use bicycles, E bikes or small evs.
Comment: Can you imagine the cost of an electric snowplow that can do the job as well as the current diesel one and would they ever manufacture one?
Vice President Al Gore gave dire predictions in 2008 that the ice caps would be melted by 2014, Miami would be flooded and countless ocean islands would be under water. It hasn’t happened. My apologies for my lengthy diatribe but I feel someone must speak up against this Orwellian and utopian vision of a happy electric future. If passed, it will have sever implications for us all especially in terms of cost as our rates will explode and low cost housing will be impractical and unaffordable. I ask that Huntsville Council reject a declaration of a climate emergency.
Anna-Lise Kear says
According to John Ivison (writer, National Post) this morning, JT’s recent apology to Italian Canadians is “going to the empathy well”. Wow, having “empathy” is now political rhetoric for what? weakness? who knows? Watch the buzz words. Now “empathy well” is a “catchy” political bludgeon one can use – call your enemy “empathetic”. I say, “pathetic”.
Brenda Begg says
I’ve had only positive experiences eating at our Huntsville Food Trucks, last summer. It is a way to support local folks, have a break from prepping and cooking, and is an outing in a safe, outdoor setting. Food trucks have been around for many years (and I do mean MANY). I have happy memories of ordering French fries at a food truck in Hailebury. Those fries at the food truck next to my grandma’s apartment building were the highlight of my visit (next to seeing her).
Ryan Vallentin says
Bonnie,
Algonquin Cafe has both a food trailer and a permanent restaurant.
Canvas Brewing has added a food trailer to the side of their patio (they don’t own the food trailer) called the Fox in the Hen House, also owned by an existing local business
Boston Pizza has two food trailers on their property.
Food trucks and trailers add to the town in a positive way.
James Wagg says
Reading the opinions on Food Trucks is very interesting. I have a question what about Free Enterprise?
Let’s face it this Pandemic has been very hard on the restaurants everywhere in an industry that has such a high failure rate. Is the answer to get rid of the competition? The town is tasked with the decision as to how many and where these food trucks can be located.
But the deeper question is should we block some young entrepreneur from trying. The success of any business has less to do with competition and more to do with a person rising above it.
As for loyalty that comes from the quality, quantity, service, and the value you received for your hard earned dollar. Honestly would you eat over-priced lousy food just to support a local restaurant? Successful restaurant owners know this and strive to repeat it daily, it is no different for food truck owners.
I do agree that the town planners have to look at how these additional businesses enhance or detract from the beauty of Huntsville. And make the right decision for whats best for Huntsville. I also agree I am blown away by the number of pot shops we have(maybe that is the reason for the food trucks) Just my thoughts Be Safe
Vivian Sammons says
Well said Marg Winchester!! I totally agree…..
Ryan Vallentin says
I disagree with Jaime’s comments regarding food trucks. I don’t feel that food trucks and trailers take away from brick and mortar restaurants. The food trucks cater to the consumers that don’t want to sit down in a traditional restaurant or have fast food at the few franchise offerings. These customers are not going to the restaurants regardless.
To address your assumption that the food trucks only take advantage of the peak summer season, I agree, but that’s okay because the peak summer season is when we swell in population and restaurants are already too full. Those same food trucks shut down for the winter and local patrons either go to the brick and mortar restaurants or fast food franchises anyway.
I believe it adds more options to the town locals and visitors alike, during the peak season only, when restaurants can not fully accommodate the number of customers. Food trucks become overflow, and they disappear during the season that restaurants really need to be busier.
Bonnie Branton says
Huntsville, PLEASE take care of our ‘Brand’; we’d like to continue to be proud of this town.
Food trucks offered some assistance in ‘distanced’ food takeout during this Pandemic, Thank You, but don’t let them be a permanent feature all over the town of Huntsville for our future. Stop the draining of income from our long term businesses. They’ve taken care of us, they now deserve our care in return.
Jamie Jordan made some great points.
I believe we must value:
Loyalty – to our established restaurants & their employees, and their shopkeeper neighbours & employees who are usually ‘visited’ or ‘window shopped’ before or after a lunch or dinner.
Pride – ‘beautification’ of our town would not include allowing more & more food trucks, but would include more & more ‘windows’ to our privileged views & outdoor activities.
How about a Volunteer-staffed new Visitors Centre in a prominent location (part of our new ‘Streetscape’?)
Role Modelling – our young population
have frequently followed their parents lead here in Huntsville & have joined, taken over or opened their own businesses.
– helping to stem the tide of our young
people permanently leaving our town.
This should be a point of pride for Huntsville!
Huntsville-
Take care of our ‘Brand’ – please.
Susan Harkness says
I completely agree with Jamie Jordan’s comments on May 16th regarding food trucks in Huntsville.
Marg Winchester says
Should we not be more worried about the number of pot shops that have been allowed to come to town. I’d rather Huntsville be known for providing visitors the opportunitiy to enjoy a meal of their choice than a pot shopping opportunity of their choice.
Jamie Jordan says
I was very interested in the front page story of The Huntsville Forester this week about food trucks. There are towns like Huntsville that have a natural beauty about them which is their core value. It is what draws people from all over the world. On top of that are the citizens who come here, develop businesses and like layers of leaves create a rich environment that draw more people to take root here. But there are other towns, like Niagara Falls (it may be different now but I worked there one summer years ago) which seem to have lost track of that core natural beauty and allowed a shallow soil to take its place.
Food trucks are tacky in my opinion. I think that we already have too many of them. The truck owners, according to the article, were all in favour of competition but how do you compare the overhead of a place like The Moose to the cost of operating a tiny food truck which is only here taking advantage of the best season, summer and disappears for the rest of the year. I don’t believe there is a single visitor to Huntsville who comes here because of its food trucks.
A town with too many food trucks will actually prevent development of long term restaurants which are of course preferable.
And why is a long term restaurant preferable? Because it rents or builds in permanent buildings which if full will cause the construction of more permanent buildings. I can’t imagine that a food truck is taxed as much as a local restaurant but if they are I’d like to see those figures. Long term restaurant businesses employ way more people. Long term restaurants invest in Huntsville. They donate to service club projects, other institutions like the Hospital and of course to sports teams just to name a few. There are dozens of quiet behind the scenes acts of generosity that they provide without asking for publicity, where there is a great need for a person or family going through a hard time and we never hear about these.
With all that our permanent restaurants have been through over the last few years, flooding and the pandemic I think they should be getting more support from the town for their continued innovation, hard work and loyalty. If anything we should be cutting back on food trucks at this time in support of our permanent businesses, not allowing more trucks which will make it difficult for a permanent restaurant to survive.
Finally, the most important issue is what is the feeling that a visitor to Huntsville gets when they arrive here? Is it a kind of jaw dropping reaction to how beautiful the place looks, which it does and how clearly the people who live here are taking care of both the natural and business environments. Or is it a feeling of tackiness, that the quick buck is clearly more important than the long haul values?
Anna-Lise Kear says
Hello; there are 2 things that come to mind for us during Nurses Week 2021.
1] Give a huge THANKYOU to nurses you know and those you see this week.
2] Next provincial election in Parry Sound Muskoka and elsewhere, vote, and Please vote out this Conservative government.
RNAO (Registered Nurses Association of Ontario, a professional organization and not a union) reminds us that this Conservative government’s “Pandemic response” is “too little too late”.
“The work of nurses has been particularly hard-hit by provincial missteps”. I would only add, that frontline healthcare workers in LTC should be included in this group too.
Thank you.
David Wolfe says
Did you miss Earth Day this year?
Last year is also difficult to remember because Covid has taken over our lives. Earth Day happens every year in April, not the 4/20 but around the same time.
This time last year it was unique because human activity had grinded to a halt. The sky was clear and blue, there was little sound of noise or smell of traffic in the air. Wildlife came back into our (their) world to explore, so last year’s Earth Day was a great experience if you love the environment.
Earth Day represents sustainability, not waste, and a plan for future generations. This year I came up my street to see in front me, every driveway with a newspaper stuffed into a plastic bag. This was not a new sight. Every couple years I have to complain to have this delivery stopped in my driveway. After lots of complaining it stops but starts again in a few years.
Some will pick them up and use the flyers or read the newsprint. Some will use them for fire starters, too much ink makes it difficult to burn, and bad for the environment. Some will find them when they are snow blowing, that aggravates. Some are thrown back into the recycling and some are just left to rot on the street or in the ditch.
If single use plastic is banned will this practice of blanket delivery stop? I hope so! It is a waste to deliver to everyone when not everyone uses it. Simple.
Please set up a system where what is manufactured is consumed, let people decide if they want it. Don’t keep throwing what I don’t in my driveway and wasting our natural resources. Please.
Allen markle says
Mr. Marschdorf:
Do you believe that any of these pronouncements from our Health Authority is much more than government people bouncing off walls? I don’t. Nor do I believe that any of our government operatives have had time to run any kind of actual research.
Yes. No! Yes. No! flip flopping this quickly suggests maybe looking at the question for a day or two and then making a pronouncement. We are never offered any proof, only their ‘sound’ decision.
We have friends and relatives in England and they are getting back to visiting again whereas we are approaching having a 45% vaccination rate. And that is only the first shot!
If our health authorities were simply to watch, they might learn something worth telling us.
But we seem to have governments and government officials who believe that Canadians only believe what we hear from them and not what we can see happening around us.
But don’t lose hope. They could say something different tomorrow. Who knows with this shower?
So we have to keep ourselves safe. Mask, wash, maintain a distance and we will muddle through.
Best of luck to us all.
Hans Marschdorf says
I wanted to get this off my chest regarding the Health Authority’s decision to stop the AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine rollout:
The claim by the authorities in yesterday’s Zoom conference was that “VITT [Thrombosis] data is evolving in real time”. Seriously? Do we think that we Canadians are genetically different from the Brits or the Danes, so that we can only rely on our Canadian case counts? If chickening out is what they want to do they could have done this a while ago! 242 cases in 28.5 million vaccinated in the UK is less than 1 in 100,000, to be precise 0.8491 in 100,000. Only 49 cases of death, which means 1.7 per MILLION. To base a decision on the much smaller sample size the Canadian vaccination system provides shows a disturbing lack of understanding of statistics and genetics. Stopping AZ now means giving up on the piloted distribution system via pharmacies and medical practitioners in rural settings where deep temperature refrigeration is an issue. Pharmacies and GP offices are the ones with close contact to their customers and able to convince them out of their hesitancy. I took the AZ shot from my Huntsville doctor 2 months ago and am still grateful I was given the opportunity and will accept AZ as a second dose if offered to me without hesitation. I felt comfortable in the hands of the nurse practitioner and the doctor I always see. The authorities should complain less about vaccine hesitancy and focus more on actions to counteract it. That would include abandoning erratic decision making and inconsistent communication. I just read on CBC that Ontario will receive 250,000 doses of AZ next week. So, how will you communicate to us that we should take it after all. As it must be clear from what I wrote above, there’s no need to convince me, but you need to convince 250,000 Ontarians plus as many residents as required to use up the doses still sitting in fridges of pharmacies and doctors offices approaching expiry dates. Happy flip flopping… Here’s a hint: Four months gaps are not supported by any scientific study. 3 months is the maximum study period. The US trial results showing 100% efficacy against serious illness and 76% overall efficacy against any infection were based on 28 day intervals. More might well be better as the British studies published in The Lancet, a medical journal, claimed, but 100/76 % sounds good enough for me. I’ll take it.
Mike Stevens says
Wow,I hope that our seasonal residents and cottages are not reading all these negative comments.Let’s remember that we are a tourist destination.These folks pay lots of taxes already for the privilege of being here..I don’t see a lot of other industry creating jobs for Muskoka other than tourism
shamdowar says
personally seasonal cottagers pay more taxes than locals we contribute more to the economy 10,000 in taxes means a lot to the town its the seasonal cottager building Huntsville not local as for the hospital the big donation is coming from the seasonal individual, the wining doesn’t mean anything to it does not affect us it just work up some locals blood pressure. the town council is on track building the town as the Hamptons of Canada to attract the rich and famous and filter out those who don’t want to be part of the change. as for social distancing the locals need to use commonsense i was at ESSO station on Hwy 60 a local was blocking the exit when i asked to be excused her response is don’t you know social distance how stupid could one be your blocking the exite also there is the kFC where the cashier is racist the next time i’m there i will defiantly record her behaviour toward ous and post it on social media sometime when she sees ous she runs to the back and askes the cook to serve ous then she come out and stand there a few weeks she had the courtesy to help a customer take his food to his truck while not wearing a mask this is not the end of this why should we be subject to this type of behaviour and why is this even serving customer.
Debbie Nicholls says
Have we come down with ” Covid Brain “?
As a permanent resident of this beautiful town, I am concerned that a few year round residents are of the opinion that they pay the lion’s share of taxes to live in paradise.
I am only taxed by property value as is across the border for anyone owning property in Huntsville. This assessment pays for the infrastructure in the area, the schools, the hospitals… everything that WE, as property owners reap the benefits of. We do not pay taxes based on occupancy … pray that never becomes the criteria. 12 months of road, school, hospital etc usage versus 5-6 months seasonally?
Think about it. Taxes are a download from the federal to the provincial to the municipality. It is an equation based on a wish list that is not based on a seasonal versus year round occupancy.
Be thankful that we have a strong tax base, for the most part compliments of the high value of waterfront homes.
These high assessed properties keep our unfrasture improvements manageable.
Thank you to our effective blended community.
Em Arde says
How nice to see all the extra vehicles in various neighbours’ driveways this weekend, for Mother’s Day. Lots of good, unhealthy mixing of members of different households, from different municipalities. Nice to see how everyone’s selfish self-interests continue to drive their behaviours. Boy, people must really love these lockdowns, because they seem to want them to go on forever.
joann Purdie says
re : cottagers
Firstly, I apologize to all those who are tired of seeing my name in your “Speak Up” section.
I really thought, with all the nice and supportive comments I have had the pleasure to read, that the majority had come to the conclusion, that the cottagers and local community had a mutual respect, and support for each other. I truly believe that we have formed friendships here in the community.
My response to the previous note, is that this-is the first time the words “ice cream and Italian food “have ever been found offensive. Of course we support all the local shops, builders, caterers etc ,etc. I guess I should have taken the time to mention everyone.
PS, again not sure how this is important, but my parents are MD’s not me.
My taxes are based on property and location etc. like all other property owners. I am not educated on the response of an extra “seasonal tax” or the reaction that might occur as a result of it being introduced.
Finally, as I have said before , Karen, I think you are in the minority, and I am sorry that you have this dislike of the local cottagers.
When I am allowed to come up- my first stop will be the ice cream shop.
joAnn
Lesley Hastie says
Adding to Nancy’s point, about non-residents helping out, visitors and seasonal residents know that when they come here they have access to excellent hospital care, yet do nothing to support it financially.
A few dollars tax, maybe part of the accommodation short term rental tax, from every visitor would make a huge difference in eliminating the deficit and paying for capital costs of our Huntsville Hospital.
nancy long says
While reading the comments here this morning, I cannot help but think about the divide between the seasonal residents and permanent residents. Joanne Purdle’s comments have really made a point with me. As an educated doctor, she feels that buying ice-cream and italian food while she’s here is supporting our economy. I wonder how many other seasonal residents think that’s appropriate support for our economy. I really believe that we need an extra seasonal resident property tax. And then we can use that money for the permanent residents to have appropriate access to parks that include water frontage and other recreational facilities. My point is that buying ice cream and pasta doesn’t add up to enough and the government who is supposed to represent residents needs to be involved in order for our permanent population to enjoy Muskoka too.
Jacquie Howell says
It is with interest, I have been following the comments. I feel that perhaps, there is blame being place on the wrong people. Our seasonal residents should be welcomed. They own their homes and I feel certain that when they are here they are following the correct Covid protocol. (many have been here for a year. I have concern about SHORT TERM VISITORS WHO ARE HERE FOR A VACATION!!!! – they may not have symptoms but can be carriers who spread to our workers in food pick up or curbside. Our motels//resorts/hotels seem to be full, I hope this is with essential workers only – not weekenders – check the parking lots – most should be empty on weekends – However walking downtown last Sunday it was not Visitors that we encountered but young people in groups – no masks and hooting and hollering, bike riding – enough said Wear masks – physically distance STAY SAFE
Mildred Tanzini says
Regarding the comment about ‘whiny’ commercials from teachers’ unions.
Surely there is little more important to our society than a sound, safe education system. When politicians show little regard for students, teachers and a safe learning environment they need to be called out and the public needs to be made aware of their policies. Complaining about the inconvenience to a minute of your TV viewing speaks volumes as to why politicians like Doug Ford feel empowered to abuse and short change our students and teachers. Your complaining at least tells me you were listening.
Evert McIlwain says
Joanne, Bobbie and Kathryn. It is very difficult to have a cottage property and not be able to visit it during this pandemic. It is great to hear that there are those who say they follow the protocols when coming to their cottage or visiting Muskoka. Following Covid protocols of washing your hands, wearing a mask and social distancing should stop the spread of Covid as you have said . People can be asymptomatic, not know it and let their guard down. In Muskoka we are up again in numbers. However someone is not following the health protocols or Covid would not keep spreading whether in Muskoka or anywhere else. The government has given us an opportunity to make our own choices and “be sensible” but for many they appear to have made the wrong choices. This is why we keep going into lockdown multiple times because of poor choices as individuals and the government. If we would all shelter in place and not travel unnecessarily we may have a change to beat this.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Hello again; Bottom line, it is time for a change in Ontario and Parry Sound Muskoka.
Key points:
1] our public health care system had been eroding and imploding for years
2] for-profit ownership and management has served the investor & shareholder over the people for whom they claim to provide service and care
3] when money should be returned to these services and care of the vulnerable (e.g. children, elderly), they line the pockets of others
4] we, as taxpayers, pay this metaphorical beast of greed & profit
5] the political party who best looks out for big business is the current (non-progressive) Conservative government – they have continued the Harris legacy (federally, Mulroney-Harper legacy); big business and social conservatives support this agenda
6] ideologically, they are driven to de-regulation, to make it easier to profit & then fail to act on the legislation in place with oversight penalties
7] they prefer the private sector, falsely believing they operations of “ethical” efficiencies
8] watch for the party platforms that seek to restore & strengthen publicly owned and operated health care
9] my human values come from another place, rather than from personal, political motivation
10] It is time for a change!
Bobbie Dyment says
Thank you Kathryn Henderson for your kind words of support for Joanne Purdie.
Our governments need to give us more credit as adults, allowing us to make our OWN choices and be
sensible in every regard concerning the current situation.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Here we go again folks: Bob Hepburn writes in today’s Toronto Star,
DF “is locked in a bitter new fight that has received little public attention, but could soon cost the jobs of thousands of nurses who work as care coordinators and result in pay cuts for others who continue in those jobs…. there are proposed regulations in a recently passed bill that… leaves the door wide open to privatized care co-ordination, threatening publicly delivered home and community care across the province.”
“Currently about 4,000 nurses and other health-care service professionals work as care coordinators in Ontario. They work directly for public health agencies, helping patients and their families access a wide range of health-care services at home and in their communities.”
So, guess what, transferring this service to the for-profits could result in lower pay and poorer working conditions for yet another nursing service sector of Ontario health care.
Had enough of privatized health services yet? Conservatives love to sell anything publicly owned and operated. Please remember this is 2022. DF Conservatives do not listen to nurses -a repeated empty slogan from his last campaign.
Kathryn Henderson says
Joanne Purdle i live in Huntsville and if I had a cottage here and I lived in the city I would certainly bring my family to the cottage. They say that wearing the mask and keeping 6 ft apart should keep us from getting the covid so keep coming up. We love the tourists.
George Gilley says
Is it too much to ask to be able to watch TV one evening and not have to listen to the whiney commercials paid for by various teacher unions (ie teachers) criticizing our provincial government. You would think that an election is immenent
Surely this money could be better spent on any number of worthy causes
joAnn Purdie says
re .Cottagers
Hi Bobbie Dyment,
Thank you so much for your thoughtful and kind note. Our cottage family has always tried to support the Huntsville, Dorset and Baysville community. We have never come during a lock down and are always isolating and safe when we are allowed to come.
It is so nice to finally hear a nice comment. So many times in the last year we have wondered if we chose the wrong area to build our cottage. Some of the comments have been so hateful and upsetting.
I guess like most topics, the negative opinions are those most published.
Again thank you, it makes me hopeful that the town does want to see us in the summer, if we are able to return, kind regards joAnn
Allen Markle says
I just drove past the posted, permit application for a duplex to be allowed on rural property and thought again that I don’t share councils’ enthusiasm for the project. As I understand it, a garden plot will be established on the land and produce from this will be donated to a local charity. Accolades I’m sure.
But, in exchange for this charitable donation the applicant will be allowed to build a rental duplex to house a manager and farm hand?
There are the names of donors listed in our hospitals and hospices who receive only a charitable tax deduction slip for their largess and many more unnamed who donate time and money for the sake of giving back to their community.
Without an actual written agreement with the applicant, how does council know what is to be donated? How much? For how long? It seems this is a very open ended understanding. There was a ‘what-if’ mentioned in council, but the assertions mentioned all seemed to hinge on the property remaining a producing farm.
If the novelty of this project wears off, the rental duplex in the field will still remain.
Might council and the community have been better served with issuing a permission for a couple of mobiles on the property, so that ‘if and when’ the donation ends, the units can be removed and this field remain fallow again.
If this is to be the precedent for rural land, I’ rather see an old barn than each field with a little duplex-bunkie.
Em Arde says
I wonder if anyone in Huntsville who is under 55 has been vaccinated here yet. I sure hope not, because before they opened it up to those 40+, we registered in the 55+ wave and yet, to date we have heard nothing from the pharmacy or from our GP. Is the supply here so low that we haven’t even gotten all the 55+ people who wanted a shot at least booked for a vaccination appointment?
Meanwhile my sister’s family, and my sister-in-law’s family, they are all under 55 and they are all vaccinated … because it seems they live in the “right” postal code.
The message I get from this is: If you follow all the guidelines, if you sacrifice your comfort and your freedom for the good of the community, if you hunker down and isolate, then your reward will be to continue to be exposed to the risk of COVID, and to suffer the worry and anxiety that comes with it.
But if your area has flouted the rules, and ignored the guidance, and has let the virus spread like wildfire … well, congratulations, let us reward you with early immunization.
Billy Joel had it right, I think.
Ray Vowels says
I was not aware that I said anything bad about the cottage owners. We all know what they bring to the area and to our businesses. All I asked was that if they are coming up right now please stay at your cottage. We all know that some do this but a lot don’t this is the problem. As far as being well off financially anyone that owns a cottage around here now is for sure a lot better off than most of our year round people. Most of us have been priced right off from ever buying lake front property.
Bobbie Dyment says
Joann Purdie, I cannot agree with you more. First, taking a literary position has much more impact without using abrasive and disrespectful terminology. Letters addressing your position embarrassed me.
Our Huntsville community is in “God’s country” and it’s where people come to relax, enjoy nature and what it has to offer in the way of scenery, water activities, a slower pace … not to overlook the kindness and variety of boutique shop owners and a vast selection of restaurant cuisine.
My husband and I would still be considered “newbies” to Huntsville (Oct., 2017) but we’ve adopted the thrill of Spring meaning fresh faces from “elsewhere”, cottage owners returning to reap the benefits of Muskoka, which boosts the local economy and there’s a vibrancy that exudes throughout the town and beyond till the colour of Fall starts to pop.
Yes, we have ALL been dealing with an unprecedented time for the last 13 months and it has resulted in a conundrum of reaction, retaliation, fear, accusation, anger and more. Being a former cottage owner, I choose to believe those who vacation /live in this beautiful area are here to appreciate nature and, in kindness, give back in every way. Joann, your note emitted hurt and I am so sorry. These opinions expressed by those who were not kind, I truly believe are not typical of those of us who welcome you, your family, friends to continue to compliment Huntsville with your presence and support.
May your stay with us during the coming Summer months of 2021 be comfortable, relaxing and safe.
Patricia Munro says
I work at financial institution in Huntsville.
When you put in your debit card, it tells me where you reside.
I always engage in conversation such as “ what brings you to our beautiful little community?”
Sudbury client : I’m here to see my new granddaughter!
Richmond Hill: I came to have a look at a boat! I need 1200 dollars.
Toronto: My kids still live here , I came for a little visit, and I haven’t seen them in a month!”
The list goes on and on, and I have to pretend to smile behind my mask and say “ oh that nice.”
I guess I’m asking why is it that they decide to stop in and stand in line to take out 20 dollars or bring in a bag of rolled coin, or pay their tax bill? Didn’t they think of that before they left their own city or town?
I serve over 125 customers every shift . More than 60 percent are traveling from out of their jurisdiction.
Edward Butikofer says
I listened to Kathlien . Here is what I feel. My wife and I are in a retirment Home in Huntsville. I belive that as we want Government to look after us (Luck at Covis spending) we should expect to pay our share. O toole and CUT TAXES. does not seem to understand what is going on. Even just childcare will cost a lot and save families a lot . Much better than Tax Cuts. Also it does not seem fair that Ontario builds Hospitals but expects charity to equip them. A few of can and will donate BUT everyone of us benefit. So if its for rhe common good then pay for it by Taxes.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Please be skeptical of the National Post’s article claiming that DF is a changed man. I suggest not.
“Ford has passed a new law that allows his wealthy donors to give twice as much. In the middle of a pandemic, this is his priority. Not paid sick days, rent relief, climate action, or a vaccination strategy for all, but lining his party’s pockets from the rich and well connected.” This is what he and his Conservative party do during a pandemic. Ironic that Commentary accuses federal government with political plays during a pandemic, while ignoring what is happening provincially.
Barb Armstrong says
An idea.
I’ve heard a few stories of Snowbirds and vacationers coming back from Florida this April and not staying in the Airport Hotels set up for quarantine because they didn’t like the look or cleanliness of them. (that should probably be looked into) I’m wondering if perhaps it’s time to just have a few army buses ready and waiting for them at the airports. Anytime anyone gets off a plane on Canadian soil, pick them up in the army bus, drive them to a ‘tent city’ or barracks somewhere, and let them quarantine there. It worked for the cruise ship people last spring.
Maybe we could take it a step further – if you want to buy a plane ticket, or perhaps at the boarder if you’re driving, you need to sign a waiver and provide a credit card and/or your permanent address. You will then have your CC charged with sufficient funds to cover the cost to ‘house you at the barracks’ and the rest of us won’t foot the bill.. because we will, financially or with our health/lives. if you don’t have enough room on your CC – it can get added to your property taxes. If you don’t have enough money to pay – either DON’T TRAVEL or DON’T expect to come back to CANADA until the pandemic is over.
I know there are folks out there attending huge rallies (hundreds of people in Barrie for instance) and protests about lockdowns and wearing masks, etc. because it’s against their civil rights and liberties. Well, first, no, it’s not, if you read “our” constitution and second – what about the rights of the rest of us?! The ones who don’t want to get Covid from all the anti-maskers, travelers, and spreaders out there?! Where are OUR rights?
And okay – a political shot – WHY was the ban not put on flights from Pakistan and India BEFORE we had 2 cases in Canada? (one in BC and one in Quebec – both of which will probably have spread by now). It’s this kind of lackadaisical, “should we? maybe we’ll offend someone? but will it hurt the economy?, what if they get upset with us and don’t vote for us again…” crap that is literally KILLING Canadians and the rest of the world.
I say call in the troops – get the military involved with quarantining anyone who wants to enter Canada in all provinces – maybe that will finally stop all the non-essential spreading of ‘death’ to our people and our health care system.
So tired of all this – hoping the new double mutant strain from India doesn’t sweep Canada now.
Stay Safe.
Robert Graziano says
I want to thank the very kind and nice staff at the Summit Centre when I had my first covid shot. I’m not the best candidate for needles but the staff there were great from the young man at the entrance to the ones directing me where to go and did NOT very the injection one bit.I feel we do not thank our medical people or police enough…so THANKS! P.S. It was the best 75th birthday present anyone could wish for.
joann purdie says
Hello Ray, James, and buddies.
Firstly, I did not mention or imply that I had travelled during the restrictions or current “Stay at home” . We came to our property before the new rules were in place.
Second, coming from a family of doctors, I am more than educated on the implications of my first vaccine shot. I think you should not try to give out medical advice.
Next to use terms like “arrogant ‘ is rude and hurtful, and as usual everyone from the city is must be “well off”., I was thoughtful enough to not say any sarcastic or mean comments in my note. You really should know that not all people from the big city are ‘well off or arrogant’. It is truly sad that you and Ray are “not alone in your thinking”
I am sure my few dollars will not make a difference, but seeing how you and your local pals think of your cottage neighbours, I will plan on rethinking my local purchases. As far as future projects on my property, my big city contractors and suppliers are polite and gracious, unlike yourself.
What a shame, that you need to use such inappropriate wording to try and make your point.
joAnn
Gerry Lannan says
I understand that Doug Ford’s popularity is plummeting; perhaps someone isn’t praising him enough
James Wagg says
Reply to Jo Anne Purdie
My Thoughts
Congrats on getting your first vaccination. But lets be clear on what that means. The vaccine does not prevent you from getting or passing on the virus, all it does is lessen the possibility of you having a serious or lethal outcome.
I was born and have lived most of my life in Huntsville, and I totally appreciate what tourism as a whole means to us, be it cottager or visitors.
We work very hard to build beautiful cottages, have lovely shops, wonderful restaurants, and fun activities to make a great experience. To you it is a vacation for us it is work, I hope you appreciate us as much as we do you.
As for the lock downs, I do not believe in them. I think we should have prepared for the inevitable, rather then thinking we could stop it.
But here we are with a stay at home order. The key component is that we restrict travel to essential only.
Stay where you live only go out when absolutely necessary. Pretty Simple.
For anyone to use the excuse that you spend money at your vacation area and there fore can ignore the travel restrictions is arrogant. It sounds like the old adage “I am well off the rules don’t apply to me”.
The Government keeps saying we are all in this together. I hope this resonates with everyone.
FYI Ray is not alone in his thinking.
We will welcome you back when this is behind us.
But for now Stay home Stay Safe.
Evert McIlwain says
Reply to Jo Ann Purdue – Yes, full time Muskokans do welcome cottagers but right now is not a good time for cottagers to spend time in Muskoka . I am very happy to hear that in previous times your have supported community businesses. You state that you now come to your cottage with necessary supplies for your stay and have been first time vaccinated. Perhaps you even stay at your cottage and don’t venture out and into town. You or others (cottagers) could be asymptomatic and still be contagious to others who have not been vaccinated. It is evident, even now with the lockdown that grocery and pharmacy stores and food take are busier than usual. I know it must be difficult to stay away from your cottage and this beautiful region. Please be an example and follow the public health guidelines, stay at home in your area, don’t travel as requested and keep yourself and others safe.
Peter R. Dirks says
When are we getting a new Governor General in Canada ?
The structure of our government requires that we have a representative of the Queen ..
Ray Vowels says
Reply to Jo Ann Purdie Once this pandemic is over we all will welcome all the cottagers back but until then a lot think it would be nice if you just stayed home. If all cottagers did like you say you do there would be no problem trouble is a lot don’t. Maybe it’s just the weekenders that stay in motels or rent cabins that for some strange reason want to spend a lot of time in town. Myself i stay home and away from town on weekends so an just speaking from hearsay when i say our town is packed most weekends. I was in the building business for many years so know first hand what cottagers bring to the area.. it’s just this is a bad time for us all and when we see what is going on in the south it scares us to think it could happen here.
jo Ann Purdie says
Hi Ray ,
Looks like here we go again.
We are from the dreaded city, and we did come north to check on our properties. We are’ first shot vaccinated’, we did not stop our car, we brought our own groceries, and then drove home.
We “cottagers” make sure we keep ourselves and our neighbours safe.
I am one of the “people” who keeps the small downtown shops busy in the summer, and who planned my daughters wedding using local venues, florists ,photographers etc, who built my cottages with local builders and tradesmen, ( when I could have easily used Toronto builders.)
Most cottagers are good people, who do all they can for Huntsville and the area. I am sure my very high property taxes help renovate the local library and pave the road to the school.
Yes Ray, you decided to live in an area surrounded by beautiful lakes, so cottagers come with the territory. We are not the problem, we are the solution to keeping small resort towns healthy.
I am convinced you are in the minority with your complaints. This is why when this health scare is over, I will forget your remarks and continue to go downtown to eat some Italian food, get some ice cream and enjoy all that Huntsville has to offer.
Chas Clark says
Thank you Mr Whillans for your lengthy diatribe and rather condescending conclusion. Not once did you mention the lack of vaccine as the main contributor to the outbreak Covid-19 in Ontario. Only sufficiently vaccinated people will provide what i believe is called herd immunity.
Anna-Lise Kear says
I am deeply concerned for our health care staff during this time, for patients, families, essential workers.
What is confusing to me is DF and this government’s lack of learning. There was much to learn after the first wave. Is it a matter of their capacity to learn? Or is it a matter of their intention to remain ignorant and filter the best advice of many of the “elites” through their political ideology?
I suggest, that the latter might be the problem. The needed paradigm shift in understanding has not been demonstrated in policy and in poor pro-active planning – and that is what is required of leadership during such a crisis!
The desire to learn from mistakes, be pro-active, not just reactive means that the Ford government needs to be fully engaged in the priorities of this pandemic, not catering to developers and accrediting colleges from amongst the party donors.
My question remains, why has the Provincial Conservative government failed to learn? Is it ability or intention?
Paul Whillans says
Chas Clark…..This has been the problem with Mr Ford’s story and those such as yourself (and Mr Mackenzie) who support him this is not a case of perfect hindsight this was most predictable by “the science”; experts in public health and finance and most importantly by other countries. I refer you to a study Kochancyk and Lipiniaki in Nature on January 28th. It looked at 25 countries’ and 10 US states’ response to the pandemic. Some countries (10 of them) used a strategy to eradicate the disease (i.e. locking down hard until community spread reached zero). Others (like Ontario) used the strategy of suppression (just enough restriction to keep the number “reasonable” until vaccinations were available). A third set of jurisdictions (only a very very few) implemented a strategy of targeting herd immunity. The findings were that not surprising. There were many many fewer deaths in those countries that chose to shut down until community spread was zero. But perhaps more surprisingly, they did vastly less damage to their economies, employment and psycho-social stress.
This, Mr Clark is not simply perfect hindsight. On August 7, Neel Kashkari who is the President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis and Michael Osterholm, who is the Director of the Centre for Infectious Disease and Policy wrote an op ed in the New York Times. Their call was for the same strategy used by these 10 successful countries predicting without it there would be more deaths and cases AND any recovery would be slower and employment would remain for years. They made it clear that it would be cheaper for the government to underwrite all of the economy for 3 or 4 months than to subsidize most of the economy for a year or more. But what they were famously saying is exactly what has been know for 75 years……pandemics are bad for business.
Statistically Ontario was within 2 weeks to a month away from reducing community spread to zero last July…..but the Ford government couldn’t wait that long. Had he waited; had he listened to the experts, Ontario too could be like those 10 countries….Covid free; allowed to freely see family friends and attend large sporting events….essentially back to a normal life
As Kochancyk et al said in their report “the idea that there was a tradeoff between public health and the economy was just an illusion”
And apparently you and the Ford government/conservative party are the last to know
Chas Clark says
It is very easy to criticize and with perfect hindsight how to handle the pandemic. Premier Ford is walking a tightrope trying to be fair to all the province by balancing the pandemic needs against the need for people to work. I think he put his finger squarely on it when he said that if they had enough vaccines, then there would not be a need for a lockdown. Canada, a G7 country , is still number 26 in the countries that have administered the vaccine. Don’t blame Premier Ford for the abysmal performance of those in power in Ottawa responsible for procuring the vaccine.
Elise Vautour says
I just wish our Walmart in Huntsville had an outdoor bench. I am partially disabled and waiting for a cab/bus is hard on me as I am unable to stand for too long. I’ve inquired with the staff but they say that the owner of the building contracts out the building to Walmart. I will look into that. The Walmart in Bracebridge has one and is covered which helps greatly during rainy days and/or in winter. Not all of us own vehicles. The more calls the better. Thanks for listening. 🌞
Barb Armstrong says
While I fully agree the government is making a great many mistakes and risking our lives in the process, there still is public responsibility and accountability to watch for as well. Huntsville was down to one active case at the end of March / early April. What Happened?!?! How are we now at 20 cases? Doug Ford has done a lot of things wrong or sometimes a little too little and a lot too late, but I don’t think he caught Covid and came up here and coughed on 19 people!
Come On Folks! Be MORE Careful! The VOCs are particularly nasty, hitting much younger age groups, and hitting harder. We can’t get complacent just because the nicer weather is approaching. See Anna-Lise Kear’s post, sign the petition, but above all else – Stay Home, Wash, stick to the ONE house hold gatherings. If we stay strong for just a few more months we can all be vaccinated and get together again!
The cases in Huntsville are because some people in Huntsville, somewhere, made the mistake of thinking it was okay to not wear a mask, to stand that little bit closer to their neighbour or friend, forgot to wash their hands before touching their face – it’s NOT okay right now!
Lesley Hastie says
Time to say goodbye, Mr Doug Ford. Your particular decision making and analytical skills do not tally with what is required during this COVID-19 third wave catastrophe. We are in the midst of a disaster and It is very clear to everyone that not only did you NOT do what doctors have been desperately urging you to do, you actually did the opposite in February, and opened up.
You still are not providing sick leave for those vulnerable workers in hot spots.
You were TIRED you said. Well it’s time now for you to have a rest.
You say you do not hesitate…now is the time to not hesitate….RESIGN
You say you do not shy away from doing what is necessary. Please do so, RESIGN.
Anna-Lise Kear says
RNAO (the Registered Nurses Association of Ontario) has a message for the Premier today. If you are as concerned as I am about the government’s responses during this third wave, please consider going to the following website and sending this action email. You do not have to be a nurse to sign this petition, just a member of the public.
https://rnao.ca/policy/action-alerts/do-what-must-be-done-premier
Thank you for considering this issue, in light of patients, families, and our health care system.
James Wagg says
I have lived in the west end most off my life, our area was mostly low to middle class with a lot of older or post war homes. But the one thing we had was a place to swim. We called it The Deep as it dropped off quick. This was a little piece of shore line owned by the Avery family that allowed us to swim there, and eventual denoted it for the purpose of a public swim area aptly named Avery Beach.
A decade ago the town decided to add a boat launch to take some of the pressure off the launch near the High School that has since closed. The use of this landing has increased tenfold to the point were families trying to use the beach are dodging trucks and trailers and good luck finding parking.
Now the town in their wisdom have purchased the hanger next to the beach and look poised to add more boat slips right beside where adults and kids swim. What part of BEACH did you miss. I ask anyone who has enjoys swimming at this little piece of beach to write the town council voicing your concerns for the close proximity this new docks to our swimming area.
Let’s speak up before we lose it.
gerry lannan says
Because of my advanced years, I got my covid 19 vaccination 5 weeks ago; I go nowhere except the Metro; the staff at Metro have not had their shots yet; there’s something very, very wrong with that picture.
Ray Vowels says
Brunel Rd, is bad for people walking on the wrong side of the road to start with then wearing dark clothing to boot. The bike riders are just as bad for not wearing reflective shirts they are very hard to see if they are in a shadow even in daylight and a lot of them will not ride the shoulder it’s a wonder to me that there is not a lot more being hit or run off the road. I think they need to be licenced and have insurance just the same as car drivers if they want to ride the road and that means having to take a test so the know the rules of the road.
La'Nor Lovegrove says
I agree with Rachel.
A couple of years ago my husband and me were driving out Brunel Rd., went around the corner heading toward the locks. A couple, walking their black dog, were on the shoulder just off the road. We were about four feet away from them when our head lights caught something that flashed. It was then we saw them, dressed all in black. Fortunately for all of us, we were well on the road and they were on the shoulder. A happy ending.
Never the less, for a few minutes it was frightening.
People, did you ever wonder why burglers, etc. always wear black at night in the movies.
SO NOONE CAN SEE THEM.
Be safe,
La’Nor Lovegrove.
Rachel Markle says
The weather is getting nicer and the days are getting longer but the sun does still go down. It would be greatly appreciated if people would consider wearing high visibility clothing when they are out during twilight hours, a high vis vest is cheap. Even the most cautious motorist can’t see you when you’re dressed all in black or dark colours and your out for an evening jog down the middle of the road.
Even if your out walking your dog high visibility clothing goes a long way to keeping everyone safe.
Brenda Duncan says
Well, here we go again…another lockdown! Why is it that us small town, rural folk understand what is necessary to stop this virus. The large majority of us are compliant.
Why don’t the people who live in the city get it? If everyone did ‘the right thing’ right from the beginning, we wouldn’t be in this mess. I am not painting everyone, from the city, with the same brush but the large majority of them are not compliant!!! What part of this pandemic don’t they understand?!!! Now they are being rewarded for bad behavior by everyone over 18 in Peel and Toronto getting vaccinated. I understand why the Government is doing this but we would not reward our own children for behaving badly. I think this is just setting precedence for the same thing to happen should there be another virus that surfaces! (Hope that doesn’t happen again in my lifetime!)
I think the teachers, in all of Ontario, should get their vaccinations. They are essential workers especially for the well-being of our children. We need our children to go to school. We need our teachers to teach in person. Why not make it safer for them to go into the classroom?
I don’t know…maybe I am just grumpy because we have to go through this again because of some people who think they are invincible!!!!
brian tapley says
It is supposed to be the COMMUNICATION AGE and we have all kinds of neat tools that can communicate, but in actuality, we can communicate less today than 20 years ago in some ways at least.
Why do we not have a directory of cell phone #’s like we used to have for land line phones?
Why is there not a registry or directory of email addresses matched to people’s names?
If you’ve ever tried to find someone these days, when land lines are getting to be a thing of the past, you will rapidly realize that communication is not actually the goal of the companies selling all this technology.
Such listings might go a long way toward eliminating scams, since the perpetrator would not be anonymous.
People will scream about “privacy” but really, can this not be accommodated somehow and still make this work better?
Norma Stahls says
I applaud the stay at home order it just should have been months ago. What we need is for people to understand that we are all in this together and follow medical advice. I want to enjoy this summer as I am sure everyone does.. Patience is running out for everyone so why won’t people help us move forward The only way we get out of this medical emergency is stay at home now and when we open up again MASK UP, SOCIAL DISTANCE, HAND WASHING GET VACCINATED WHEN YOU CAN , AND GOOD OLD COMMON SENSE . Think of the medical staff and availability to hospital services let’s do our part .
I truly empathize with business owns and staff but if we don’t get this pandemic under control they will suffer loses greater than now so let’s help them .
Stay healthy and safe
James Wagg says
Albert Einstein: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
And here we we are again, yet another lock down. And what will be the result? The same. The virus, like a stealthy cat lays in wait til we pop our head out of the hole and it hits us with another wave.
To say we are tried of it would be an understatement.
Hey Government at all levels rather then trying to stop the inevitable, why didn’t you prepare for it?
A year ago we were in the first wave, you talked about developing vaccines, getting more ventilators, expanded bed capacity, more rapid tracing, and controlling the influx of virus to our country.
Year later we are still in the same boat. The wealthy travel at will weather it is going abroad or bringing the virus from hot spots to communities who through sacrifice have kept their numbers low. A relative of mine waited 5 days for test results losing wages for her and her spouse only to find out it was a common flu, we wonder why people might lie about feeling slightly under the weather. If our greatest fear is overwhelming our hospitals, then why weren’t we expanding, we have military MASH units why aren’t they active. Vaccines what can we say, someone voted him in, Lets not make that mistake again.
Be Safe.
Sharon Burgess says
It is my 65th birthday on Thursday April 8th. I can’t even go out for a nice dinner now. Had lunch reservation with my sister and my 86 year old Mom, to go have a nice lunch. Now it is cancelled. Getting tired of all this.
stan dronseika says
Could it be that your community guidelines might just be a tad too broad? Could it be that our community is made up of slightly sterner stuff; and lack a sense of humour?
jerry paris says
Why does Justin hate Canadian businesses? He said that there were no places in our country that could produce vaccines, but it turns out there were three. One in the prairies producing for manitoba, one in toronto, and one in montreal.The one in toronto, he was willing to give 5 million, the one in montreal, a hundred and twenty plus, but it was said it would cost 330 million to se.t up and produce a vaccine.An american copany will supply vaccines some time in 2022,from the greater ottawa area and now Justin is opening the wallet big time to a french company to set up in toronto area. Why not to a canadian company? Justin only wants to invest in foriegn businesses.
Dawn Huddlestone, Managing Editor says
Kathryn,
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Kathryn Henderson says
I would like to know the rules for putting an opinion on here. I answered someone’s opinion but my opinion was not posted.
Ray Vowels says
I wonder what the Ford Govt is thinking by locking down the entire province starting on Sat. I guess Mr ford wants to get up to the cottage on Fri along with a lot more of his friends from the city. You can bet Fri night the hwy will be jammed with people coming north for the weekend and we will be the ones that suffer from it. Huntsville has not had a case since march 21 st but I’ll bet we get a bunch after this weekend. So much for the people of Muskoka doing what we are supposed to and not spreading covid 19 around much. This lock down is sure going to hurt if not end all hope for a lot of our small businesses in town and that is sad because there is no reason for it at all. All they should do is close the hwy off at Barrie on Fri night and stop all the people from the infected area from coming up here spreading it around.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Hello again; Don’t be fooled by DF’s folksy manner, the Con Ford government plans to invest in LTC in the Province. Wonderful news? Well keep wide awake, because this will go into additional beds for the for-profit sector.
If you have been satisfied with the for-profit performance in Ontario LTC during this pandemic, (especially the death rates, lack of preparation, insufficient staffing) and the deficiencies in preparing over the summer 2020 by the DF government in advance of the second wave, then having the for-profits take more of the corporate welfare pie will make no difference to you and yours.
If you DO have concerns, please listen and consider the platforms of any party but Ontario Conservatives before voting.
We remember what the Mike Harris years have done to LTC, Doug Ford has no different agenda.
Please stay alert and stay well. Thank you for reading.
Edward Butikofer says
I wonder what is going on in Retail. There are empty shelve everywer. Prices on some items are thru the roof. Yet we dont hear much of why or what . Any ideas
Evert McIlwain says
Kathryn H. The government has provided us with infection control guidelines. There is nothing left to figure out…we’ve been given the guidelines – wash your hands, wear a mask, social distance and get vaccinated. It’s up to us, as people, to follow them. The virus is spreading because people are not following the guidelines. The more vigilant people follow the guidelines, the lesser the infection rate will be, decreasing risk for the public and therefore allowing business to reopen safely. This is every Canadians responsibility.
Ray Vowels says
I see Freshco is going to go with just reusable bags. Now I’m wondering just what people will use for kitchen catchers if all the store go that way. We use the grocery bags for all the kitchen garbage and from what I have seen most deteriorate within a few weeks if left out in the sun so i’m not sure just what the problem is I think they are much less of a problem than the green plastic garbage bags most people put out for pick up each week.
David Ferguson says
Ms. Keetch,
With respect, I have a couple of comments about plastic grocery bags.. Firstly, they are very useful for kitchen garbage, pet waste etc., and I assume many people use their bags for such purposes. I know I do. Now that they’re not supplied at my grocery store I will have to purchase “kitchen catchers” or such like.
Secondly, plastic grocery bags are recyclable, and always have been. Can you say the same about the reusable bags we’re now forced to purchase? And where do they end up when no longer usable?
Kathryn Henderson says
I would like to see all the stores and restaurants opened up before we lose all our small businesses. Government has had enough time to figure out this pandemic. Enough is enough. Let’s get the Lieing liberals out and start saving Canada, Canadians and Canadian jobs.
Susan Keetch says
THUMBS up to Freshco, they have gone to only reusable bags, no more plastic. They still sell bags at a very reasonable price. Wish the all store would follow suit. Thank you Freshco.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Will someone give DF a metaphorical bump on the head? Again, he does not listen to the professionals. Because he is tired of the situation, he opens up areas. Let’s hope our younger adults will be safe.
Let’s change this government at the next Provincial election, in mass. DF is trying his best, I am told. Well, seriously his best is not enough in my books. Thank you for reading.
Brian Tapley says
Why is it that back in the 80’s Credit card interest rates where about 20 to 24 % and believe it or not, banks paid interest on your savings account of maybe 5% and you could get a GIC for slightly more, maybe 6 or 7%.
Now, banks pay interest of zero on your savings. If you manage to find a GIC paying more than 1% you will discover you have locked your money in for the next 50 years BUT IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR CREDIT CARD STATEMENT YOU WILL SEE THEY ARE STILL CHARGING 22.9%
One would think that if all other interest payments, heck even loans have dropped and car companies love to give you an interest free loan for 5 years if you grace their brand by buying a new car, well you could be forgiven for thinking maybe, just maybe credit card interest rates might follow the trend?
Any banker care to explain this and put their name on the reply?
Harry Oswin says
Just wondering why gas is 10 cents/litre cheaper (119.9) in Bracebridge than it is in Huntsvile (129.9)
I’d be happy to be educated on this.
Thanks!
Brenda Begg says
I might add, I’ve been told that the public washrooms in Huronia mall in Midland (a small mall) and Georgian Mall in Barrie are open.
Brenda Begg says
Thank you for this avenue to ‘Speak Up’. I went to the mall this afternoon and was surprised to see a sign posted on the front door advising that their public washrooms are closed. Closure of washrooms on and off during the pandemic has been addressed in the Toronto Star at least four times. Truck drivers and others have been impacted with the closure of washrooms. We are encouraged to (e.g, shop local) yet some washrooms are closed! I think most people are capable of, and know how to safely use a public washroom. For goodness sakes- open the washrooms.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Whillans; you are absolutely correct. I apologize to anyone who may have been injured by my remarks. I should have more clearly identified the context of governments or how leaders are chosen.
My statement was not meant to generalize well, it was specific, intended to open discussion on how humans choose, if we can choose, those who lead us.
I was addressing the person about his comments concerning the monarchy, his choice of words was “bullies”. Individuals who abuse the advantage of their greater power over innocent lives, causing trauma are bullies and much more. I hope this clarifies my post.
Thank you Mr. Whillans for bringing to my attention how my comments might have been interpreted by others.
Ryan Vallentin says
James, the age of consent in Canada was raised from 14 to 16 in 2008 for the first time since 1892
The Harper government did that to help protect our young people. If you are referring to the age rule exemption that would allow a 14 and 15 year old to consent to sexual activity provided the age difference does not exceed 5 years, that is to protect prosecution for close in age consenting relationships. I can agree that 5 years is excessive, but we certainly don’t want a 16 year old’s life destroyed by criminal records and sex offender registration because of a sexual relationship with their 15 year old partner. Do you remember your hormones at that age?
I believe the Harper government made the law better, just not good enough.
Paul Whillans says
Anna-Lise Kear………”Bullies were invited to be so”. I suspect that you may want to re-think (or more likely withdraw) that premise. I could give you a extensive list groups and victims (including but not limited to rape victims) who would not only dispute that by take great offense (as do I)
I suspect that you were trying to be “academic” but your statement does not generalize well. I would in fact categorically that bullies are never invited to be so…………..NEVER
Brenda Duncan says
Here I go on another rant! Today it is about the high school kids. There are many of them who walk to McDonalds or Little Caesars or Subway for their lunch. I think it is great that there are so many of them actually getting out and getting some exercise. The thing I don’t think is great is their incessant littering.
While out for a walk myself at lunchtime, I witnessed a number of them finish what they were eating or drinking and discard their garbage on the ground! Seriously!!! This is a disgusting act coming from someone of their age!
I know that they probably don’t read the Doppler so I am imploring their parents to sit them down and actually ‘have the talk’ with them about proper behavior! Thank you.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Iannan: Hi, I was not trying to change your mind and opinion, just to broaden the concept.
It takes ‘ 2 to tango’, as is said. People get what they ask for/need in leadership and ruling systems.
Bullies rule because they are allowed to or because people don’t understand any alternatives.
Hugh Holland’s remarks in Mr. Mackenzie’s article about the monarchy are worth a read.
gerry lannan says
Hi Anna-Lise;
You are obvious much better at writing than I am (and I mean that as a compliment);I agree with everything you say, but it doesn’t change my premise about the origin of royals.
Gerry
James Rockwell says
Okay so this question/comment is going to be a shock to most citizens and readers. I’m hoping Scott Aicheson can help to answer; why on earth did the Harper Conservative government change our age of consent laws? Why in this age of domestic human trafficking, right from our own back yards, did they change the laws to allow an 18 year old to “date” a 14 year old? Not only is it disgusting and completely bizarre, it’s also a blight on our society. Time for the feds to change this horrible law.
I have seen first hand 18 year old men lure and groom 14 year old girls. This is just wrong!
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Inannan; I realize your post is rhetorical. Perhaps a history book from the library would help. Kings, nation states in Europe. Many, many battles for territory. Canadian history and territorial fights on behalf of France, England, the Vikings, etc. It has always been about land, resources, and dominant culture — I am sure that is obvious. People/nations wanted kings and installed them to help fight their enemies. They wanted military leaders to protect them from invaders.
Class systems, ignorance, superstition, lack of any education keep people oppressed and keep them dependent. It can also be a learned dependency over time.
How would people know about any form of shared power? Might meant right.
At the heart of all of this is human nature, greed, fear, anger. What else could be more obvious?
The bullies were invited to be so. How was human nature to change? How can it change today?
The monarchy in Britain is not the despot now, there is shared power with Parliament. People get what they want, sometimes benevolent, sometimes tyrannical. What lessons can we learn from the autocracy and self-serving of a malignant narcistic sociopath and former leader in the USA republic?
gerry lannan says
please help me here; I’m trying to figure out where royals originated; I can’t believe that God created royals and peasants; I can’t believe that ,through evolution , we evolved as royals and peasants; so where did royals get started? well, here’s my theory–a very long time ago in prehistory a gang of bullies got together and gathered more and more bullies with them to control larger and larger areas of land which they controlled, occupied by ordinary peasants who only wanted to be left alone; the lands became so big that they called it a country and made themselves emperors and kings and made their sons and daughters princes and princesses and so it goes. prove me wrong.
Kathryn Henderson says
Peter Dirk the liberals and NDP have the majority. The conservatives don’t have much voting power. Maybe next election. Trudeau is being Trudeau.
EDWARD WOOLVEN says
A major advantage being linked to Barrie is availability of access to their hospital .
Peter R. Dirks says
What is Justin Trudeau doing in getting into the Battery production with Quebec ?
$ 50,000 000.00 of our money will go a long way in getting our covet 19 problem resolved.
Where does the Conservative Party has anything to say about this ?
Allen Markle says
A few days ago someone on the radio ask what we the listeners thought would be nice as the Covid threat diminishes. We have had so many false starts that the question is a bit premature, in my opinion. But it will happen so I thought of some of the things I will appreciate.
I will like to hear the news and not have this Covid diet every half hour and hour. Though I’m sure they will come up with something else to present ad nauseum.
I will appreciate an end to the speculation and not actual news, that has become the forte of the CBC.
Not having every doctor with an opinion being given the opportunity to present it on radio or television will be a plus.
Hearing that we are now receiving a steady stream of vaccine deliveries will be appreciated.
It will be great to know that the inoculation of everyone is proceeding apace and that at least 100,000 people a day are getting the ‘jab’. With Ontario’s population of 15 million, we will be done in 150 days or 22 weeks! Justin and Doug; can you deliver? I’ve worked night shifts and am more than willing to be there at 3:00 in the morning for my shot.
It will be great to talk on the street, unmasked and closer than two meters. I’ve found it a rather novel concept to need a mask to enter a bank!
I want to be able to sit down in a hall full of bid euchre players and say “Shuffle-up and deal!”
It will be great to drive for Muskoka Seniors again.
Until then there’s nothing for it but to wash my hands, wear a mask and keep my ‘bubble’ small.
Just my opinion and wish list.
Stay safe everyone.
Bev MacWilliams says
How long are we prepared to give Justin Trudeau and the Liberal government a pass on their complete failure to secure the vaccines to protect our citizens. I have heard from many supporters of the PM and his government that they are doing their best. Their best? Their best is worse than most 3rd world countries. As a business owner, when I hear we are doing our best, that is code for we are in trouble. Doing your best in the private sector isn’t good enough, you have to be the best to survive. We now are seeing the political spin that we are ok to get by with one shot for 4 months. Really? Everyone who are expecting second doses are now going to be significantly delayed. The government has now shifted to plan B ( the default) which is the failure of plan A. Let’s call it what it is, as a member of the G7, we are in last place protecting our citizens by providing adequate cover doses. Everyone was critical of the US in their distribution of the vaccines, now they are the model for the rest of the world. This government has failed us in this regard, more preventable deaths will take place. The Prime Minister and his party will spin this failure as problems that were out of their control; they will say they that they did the best that they could and many people will believe that and give them a pass. I won’t! This is serious business and I expect that my government will deliver, they didn’t. Their best fell far short of what I expected. They need to be held accountable for this; it is shameful. It is time to throw out the incompetent. Oh by the way where the heck is the budget? Is there something that is being hidden from Canadians? You want to believe it there is.
Susan Keetch says
Just wondering why Huntsville has I think either 3 or 4 marijuana stores? Anyone know?
Brenda Duncan says
Since everyone is focused on Covid and getting the vaccine, I will focus on our road conditions. Well, not entirely, I am focused on getting the vaccine too.
I know the potholes are a yearly thing; however, this year they seem exceptionally large and there seems to be more of them. They also ‘seem’ to be ‘fixed’ within a short period of time. The only thing is that some asphalt is dumped in the holes only to have it pushed back out again with each passing car. I am no engineer but there has to be a better solution for a more permanent fix. The current way of doing this most certainly helps with justifying jobs and job creation which includes not only the Roads Dept. but the mechanics who end up fixing our vehicles! I am sure there are going to be more accidents when people are focusing on the potholes instead of where they are going or who is in their way!
If anyone has a solution for these potholes, please, please, please contact our Roads Department!!!
While I am on the road subject, I am asking drivers to be aware of the people walking on the sidewalks and ask that they either slow down or move over to avoid hitting puddles which end up hitting the pedestrian. I, for one, was the recipient of one such driver today who, whether intentionally or not, soaked me with muddy water between Canadian Tire and PetValu!!! I was totally not impressed!!!
Lynn Bennett says
Every 5 years like you I get myself off to the ServiceOntario office, line up, get a number, wait to be called to the counter, and have my photo taken — the process of renewing our Health Card.
Why are we not using this system in partnership with e-Health Ontario to prioritize (they have our health records) and book every citizen’s vaccine appointment? As taxpayers, we have invested BILLIONS in these technologies!!! Where are they now? And, why are we not putting them to use?
Ford and his team are failing every one of us. My 85-year old mother called and went online to book her appointment in Simcoe Muskoka on the day they opened up and while we are very happy her friends have gotten their shots she is still to get an email or a call to tell her when she will receive hers.
This could have been oh so simple — an automated outbound call from our government vs. her trying to get through to a call centre that kept disconnecting her or attempting to bring up a website that kept crashing!
While we have been struggling through lockdowns and watching our local business shutter, Ford has had at least 8 months to figure out a booking system and test it — sorry FOLKS and FRIENDS they are proving every day they are not up to the job!
jerry paris says
I have recently seen people saying the perfect solution to government in Muskoka is to have one council, such as a regional, with no need of local representation.
This reminded me off a time when some regional reps brought up the idea that to lower the costs of water and sewers every taxpayer should pay a fee to water and sewers costs to the region while still paying the costs for their own wells and septic systems If it not been for local reps, those not in the towns on municipal systems would be double taxed. All planning would be done and services would be moved to Bracebridge for those north or south in Muskoka. One government for the area may not be the best idea.
Kathryn Henderson says
James Rockwell I totally agree that the lockdowns are political. I think they are wanting the small business to go under. They must have a plan that won’t be good for Canadians.
Doug Peck says
What is the current status of the vaccine?
Ralph Cliffe says
Ontario pharmacists start a COVID-19 vaccine program this week at 330 locations to provide the AstraZeneca vaccine to customers aged 60 to 64 as lockdown restrictions ease in two major regions.
Does this include Muskoka?
What happened to those 65-79 age group. Don’t they count.
Information received is so screwed up a lot of people are going to be missed.
James Rockwell says
Okay so now I’m confused, was the emergency brake a real health issue? Was a week really enough to nip the virus in the bud? This whole gong show seems it’s absolutely politically driven. If you’re going to lock us down, then LOCK US DOWN, but you’re going to pick and choose then just leave us alone.
Real lock downs work, this patch work of political optics does nothing
Adios Mr. Miller, don’t let the door hit you on your way out of office….
Anna-Lise Kear says
Hello Mr. Rockwell; I think it was a year at Humber College for DF. That is what used to be on the Ontario government website, after he was first elected. I am guessing that science was not on the curriculum in his program at Humber. I suppose high school football coach was preparing him in some way for local leadership. Just a thought. Until and if ever the Conservative party actually becomes “progressive” and “conserves” the environment, until there is more science -biology, earth, and has some more women, I will not be voting PC.
James Rockwell says
Can somebody please explain to me how Norm Miller has been reelected over and over, while doing absolutely nothing for this area? C’mon people over 50 who for some reason feel voting blue is a birth right and necessity. Time to change it up, let’s remember this next time around how Norm and his conservative cronies have done nothing but harm to Muskoka. It would be really great to have a premier who has more than two weeks at Sheridan College and inherited a family business under his belt. My goodness, make this insanity end!
Alex Kudryk says
We are all in difficult times right now with COVID 19 pandemic!! I would like to commend all those who are TRYING to implement the safety standards of keeping social distance and wearing of face masks and washing hands and sanitizing. What bothers me is when I go to the grocery stores in the Huntsville area I see people leaving their grocery carts in the parking lot and not returning them to their storage areas where employees pick these carts up and take them in to be sanitized fir other customers. The other things I have noticed is people are leaving their latex gloves and face masks in the carts or in the parking lots expecting others to pick up after they use these PPE . It’s not fair to the employees to pick up your used masks and gloves. Would you want to pick up used syringes or other personal PPE that have been discarded ??? I think not.
Please be considerate to those that serve us!! They are also risking their well being for wages fir their family or chances on contract this virus that is running ferociously.!!
Please take a moment to consider those that are at the stores and location so we can get by!! As mentioned we are ALL IN THIS TOGETHER , so please let’s all do our part !!!
Al KUDRYK a concerned citizen of our Community
Anna-Lise Kear says
Hi again. I commend the Toronto Star investigative reporting into LTC, Ontario. I would encourage all to read Sat. Feb 27, 2021 front page, “Higher Death Rates in LTC homes tied to For-Profit ownership, analysis shows”. I encourage all to read the whole article; here are a few quotes only.
“”the pattern is consistent in the data from the entire pandemic and is even clearer in Ontario’s second wave, during which an even larger gap between the poorer outcomes at the for-profits relative to the non-profit and municipal facilities.”
“The Star used…’Stratified analysis’, with dozens of combinations of characteristics – 81 separate tests in all.”
“Staffing cannot be understated. We know that they [for profits] have lower levels and lower quality of staffing within the for-profit sector and we know that they’re paid less too.”
“Homes … can keep money for profit from a fourth funding category for things like housekeeping and administration, and from premiums charged to residents from private rooms.”
“Research from both the U.S. and Canada has found that for-profit [LTC] homes, on average, have lower staffing levels compared to non-profits.” So, if you need to look for care for a loved one, avoid the for-profits in Ontario, if at all possible. I sincerely hope that the outrage over this issue, dating from the Mike Harris years will be front and center in our next Provincial election. Please listen and dissect the party platforms during the campaigning. Choose better for our elderly people.
Brenda Begg says
The rise in numbers of Covid cases is alarming. Yes, please stay in your own community for the time being, unless (e.g. you have a medical appointment). We have a small, but wonderful hospital; but, it has its limits. Our frontline workers (this includes cashiers, taxi drivers etc.) are physically and mentally exhausted beyond the pale. We’ve only been out of lockdown for a few short weeks and already we’re on the cusp of another lockdown. Not good for businesses. Not good for people’s mental health. Not ok. Use Zoom to connect. Use the old-fashioned telephone to connect. Pen a letter. Use email to connect. It’s a small price to pay. For your sake and the sake of others, don’t take ‘calculated risks’. Yes, please stay in your own community.
Evert McIlwain says
I agree the Huntsville community, not just the cottage community do care about the well being of it’s citizens, the health of it’s economy, and protection of it’s environment. It is difficult to see that “those venturing up to Huntsville to spend time at their cottage” are careful to quarantine when on a weekend the grocery stores have line ups, parking lots are full and the main street was jammed with cars and people shopping. So it would appear to me that people are not safe harboring, quarantining at their cottages and around their property, ensuring that they had sufficient supplies as to reduce exposure. These are difficult times but in order for us to get through this pandemic, avoid another shut down you need not to have unnecessary travel outside of your community.
David Wexler says
Huntsville is very fortunate to have a longstanding and supportive cottage community who care deeply about the well-being of its citizens, the health of its economy, and the protection of its beautiful environment. Those who do venture up to Huntsville to spend time at their cottages are for the most part, extremely careful to quarantine up here, as they are as worried as are local residents about getting covid.
Let’s not point fingers at one another and instead continue to socially distance, wear appropriate face-coverings, wash and sanitize regularly, and hope for a day when our governments finally secure enough vaccines and have a published plan for protecting us.
James Wagg says
Lets get ready for lockdown #3.
As we enjoy the freedom from lockdown #2 we forget there is still a pandemic going on.
The weekend was a beautiful winter days, and what did I see a flurry of cars coming from the south, rows of snow machines waiting to cross roads, and full parking lot at Deerhurst.
Relaxing the conditions of lockdown doesn’t mean going hog wild. For you from the GTA you are still in a stay at home order but feel you have the right to come here potentially spreading the virus. How about think of others for a change.
You came here before Xmas and our number of cases over doubled, and here you are again.
I get it I too hate being restricted but that’s where we are. Don’t think we are clear of this yet do your part by staying in your own zones.
Ray Vowels says
I have lived in Huntsville for over 50 years and sold a few homes and as yet have not had a real estate company pressure me into selling. I have always called the company of my choice and asked them to give me an idea of how much I could expect to get for my home. So to try and blame the realtors for the high prices in my view is not fair. Yes they will list your home for as high a price as they think they can sell it for and we all would do the same thing but in the end someone has to be willing to buy at the set price or sometimes even higher. I don’t see much sitting on the market and not selling so the price asked must be ok.
John Barr says
Hey Huntsville, don’t let the realestate industry con you into selling your property.
Where are you going to live then?
These real estate companies are interested in nothing but profits at the expense of people who’ve owned for many many yrs.
Let the property owners with the big Buck property sell. They will be the ones trying to con you into selling at their profits.
So be aware of both the realestate company’s and other capitalists trying to get rich on your hard earned investments.
Cheers from someone who cares!
Susan Keetch says
We passed by the Huntsville high school yesterday and were shocked to see that about 50 kids in the parking lot gathered with no masks and no social distancing. Is there no monitoring of this area? Perhaps you need the medical department to start giving tickets for the blatant non compliance of rules that everyone is suppose to be following. Maybe the high school should also be fined for letting this situation happen.
Brenda Laking says
There is a new telephone scam on the wires. She claims to be from Home Warranty Ontario, talks about the carbon footprint and wants to put $88.05 in your account. She just needs your deposit information. DON’T GIVE IT TO HER. HANG UP!
Larry Funston says
As we headed grocery shopping around noon today, we passed by numerous groups of 10+ high school students gathered outside the pizza restaurants – all without masks. If we are to beat the spread of Covid there must be adherence by students not only inside the school but outside also. I know the schools have no jurisdiction outside of the schools, but do the police or other authorities not have a way to discourage these inconsiderate actions? This is especially important as more contagious variants start to appear.
brian tapley says
Real estate companies!
We all know that real estate agents have a talent for “bending” the truth to fit their desires and needs and most take this with a sort of grim chuckle and something to the effect of “buyer beware”.
Blatant lies, belong with Trump however.
A recent listing for a property on Lake of Bays, a tiny little property with about 90 feet of frontage and less than an acre, a property with no possibility of any expansion on the site for virtually anything but maybe a garden shed, a property totally hemmed in with other private property as far as the eye can see in all directions….
Well the listing said that the property was “surrounded by crown land”.
I don’t know if the owners, who are now over 2 and a half million dollars poorer in some bank’s cash, actually checked out this fact but if they did they would find that there is no crown land within a mile of this place in any direction.
What there is, and I seriously doubt this was clearly disclosed, is a 66 foot concession right of way adjacent to the North. Leading to water this piece of property can be used by anyone on earth to access the water but nothing can be built on this land and no privacy controls can be placed upon it.
The municipality has a policy of “not closing such right or ways to water” and so this situation will remain as it is for all the foreseeable future.
By way of a bit of a comment, this lot has already encroached upon this public land with fill needed to create their driveway. This was done over 10 years ago and the by law department of the time did not feel the need to enforce the protection of this public land at that time, allowing this encroachment to proceed at no cost to the lot owner of that time.
More recently, the bulk propane tank for this property is located on the public road allowance, a precedent creating situation, and again as of this date nothing appears to have been done about this. So, in Lake of Bays, if you want to put your propane tank on the public road allowance, this appears to be perfectly ok.
I’ll bet the realtor never mentioned this fact either.
Considering the amount these realtors collect in fees one would appreciate it if they were at least truthful in what they tell customers.
Ellen Duncan says
Brenda, I do agree with you regarding the dogs and owners. I live near the Legion and their park
is regularly used by the puppy population. Come on owners, tidy up your puppy.
Ellen Duncan
Anna-Lise Kear says
Thank you Chas Clark for your factual posting. Mr. Ford has plenty to do for Ontario health besides travelling to US (and his border issues with travel at this time) to pick up vaccine- its still ludicrous, though understandably frustrating rhetoric and meant to depict DF as an action guy.
2 points 1] Mulroney government sold the Toronto Connaught Lab industries, a vaccine producer – might we have had a ready facility to take on the production of COVID vaccine, if a longer view had been taken by the federal Conservatives?
2] DF’s attention should be on LTC health sector – the missteps of the DF government with a deficiency of planning over the summer months, lack of comprehensive inspections, and not taking the kind of action for violations of care standards (actions which are already legislatively available to his government), mainly in the for-profit homes has failed to mitigate the second wave, as it could have.
Brenda Duncan says
I am really happy to see so many people out getting some exercise in this beautiful winter weather. It is so good for the mind and the body.
There is only one problem…people taking their dogs for walks and not cleaning up after them. Until someone invents a device that dogs can pick up their own do-do, owners have to take responsibility to clean up after them.
I walk around the frisbee park and sometimes play the game but it is just disgusting to see the amount of doggy do-do along the path! It is even more disgusting when the frisbee lands in a pile of it. I know I should be working on perfecting my throw but until I do, I would appreciate the frisbee landing on clean snow!!
It is not just out at the park, it is on the streets in town. Someone even put up a sign, by Fairvern, telling people to clean up after their dogs! How sad is that?
Come on people….you took on the responsibility of having a dog, do your part and clean up after them!!!
It is hard enough during these lockdowns, let alone this kind of ‘crap’ adding to the stress!
While I am at it…does anyone remember what side of the road to walk on when there are no sidewalks? Yes, facing the traffic!!!
Okay, I feel better now but will feel better once people start taking responsibilities for their pets!!!
Stay safe!
Chas Clark says
Today , February 3, 2021, the BBC announced that from December 1, 2020, the Covid-19 inoculation has been given to 10 million of the 15 million of those identified as priority individuals . The program will be completed mid February with 1 million inoculations being achieved per week. The UK target is to raise this to 2 million per week for the UKs population of 66.7 million.
(source BBC, Wik1pedia)
Canada has achieved 996,000 inoculations to date for its population of 37.9 million. Canada is now 27th in the world for its inoculation program behind the US (yes, even with President Trump), the UK and even small countries like Serbia and Poland. We are told a new production facility will produce vaccine by next year and our deliveries of vaccines has stalled. (source Global News, CBC News)
Mr Ford’s idea of going to the USA to get some vaccines does not now seem so outrageous.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Dr. Hastie; I have suggested to MPP Mr. Miller that the provincial government’s inaction in LTC appears to be one of moral bankruptcy. I share your thoughts.
Ian Hastie MD. says
It has been extremely distressing to watch the Covid 19 outbreak unfold at Roberta Place in Barrie. Despite the LTC home being overwhelmed by the virus with almost all residents and staff now affected , our Provincial Gov’t had persistently refused enlisting offers of military assistance offered by the Federal Gov’t.
Is this because they fear yet another damming report by an authoritative independent body? ( Federal to boot.) Are they concerned that recurrent, severe deficiencies might be revealed to the public at large?
These deficiencies would likely rest at the feet of the MOH and the Province.
If so, this is not only shameful, political self interest but a dereliction of public duty.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Seriously, recently reported that DF says he will drive down to the US to pick up more vaccine! His hyperbolic statement indicates his frustration level with vaccine distribution. Well, DF, I’m frustrated with your government’s inaction in LTC, from the spring 2020 forward.
I have a thought Mr. Ford, why don’t you stay in your office, govern, and increase staffing, training, testing, tracing, inspections in LTC? It will have greater effectiveness than driving to pick up vaccine for the province! Just a practical thought for our former football coach, business man, and Toronto city councillor.
Barry groomes says
I would like to bring to attention what my wife and I went through 2 weeks ago today. Our 2 dogs Tallie(beagle) and Lynkin(silver lab) decided to take off for a run on Monday January 4 2021 at 8:30 pm . The wife and I jumped in the truck and drove all the roads around Madill church road looking for the 2 dogs until midnight. No tracks because of a skiff of snow that had fell. We gave up for the night hoping they would come home. We were woke up the next morning with a phone call that one of our dogs was possibly lying dead on the highway in the southbound hwy 11 about 100’ north of the Stephenson road 12 intersection. We jumped in the truck and headed down there from our home on Madill church road. We got there but nothing. We had found what I thought was my dog buried in snow in the snow bank. I dug it up to find a lot of blood but no dog. I called Fowler’s construction highway maintenance office. I was talking to a guy by the name of Neil. I told him what I was looking for and would like to know if it was my dog or a dead deer. He took my phone number and name and said he did not know but he would radio the patrol person and find out and call me back. My call to him was at 9:06 Tuesday January 5 2021. We continued looking for the dogs hoping the best. We found Lynkin 2 hours later at Thermoseal he was scared wet and cold and didn’t want anything to do with anyone until we pulled up and he came to the truck. It was then I figured the blood was from my beagle Tallie. We took Lynkin home and waited for Facebook to help us locate Tallie. Friends were great by contacting whoever they could to help us with locating Tallie. I found out at 8 am Wednesday January 6 2021 that in fact it was Tallie-bug that had been killed on the highway. The notification did not come from the highway guy. In fact the highway guy Neil called me that afternoon at 1:45pm to say yes it was our dog that they picked up. I told him I wanted her back so I could bury her. Neil says well she’s in a garbage bag .. I said I don’t care I want her back. Neil says well we took her to a pit in gravenhurst and she’s buried. I said where is she I will go dig her up? Neil says ok ummm I will make a call and I said good let me know. To this day he still hasn’t called back.
So after multiple calls and texts from friends with contact numbers I get a boss at Fowler’s office in Bracebridge on Thursday January 7 2021 He tells me that the company policy for a domestic animal killed on the highway is to dispose of it immediately and if it has a collar and someone calls the person can have the collar back and that’s it. But because I was looking for my dog to bring home to rest he apparently made a call to the pit in gravenhurst to tell them I was coming to dig up my dog. I get to robinsons Quarry about 1:30pm and talk to the head guy and he directed me to the spot that Tallie was supposed to be buried in snow. He informs me tho it may not be a good scene because of bald eagles and coyotes and wolves that come there to feed on the dead carcasses that are thrown over the bank. The Robinsons guys were great and in no way am I blaming them for anything. But after not finding anything Thursday I made plans to go back Friday and a buddy was coming to help me dig. We moved a lot of snow but still did not find her. As we were leaving we spotted a garbage bag in a snow bank along the plowed road and it was Tallie. We also found out that Fowler’s patrol did not bury her they tossed her over the gate at the entrance to the pit. The loader guy never seen the bag until Wednesday morning when he was clearing that part of the pit.
We brought her home and made arrangements for cremation and that part of our family will be with us always. The problem is with Fowler’s Highway maintenance policy of disposal of domestic animals. It took 28 1/2 hours for them to get back to me about my dog. But yet the patrol person that picked Tallie up had a meltdown about having to pick her up. That is understandable but they kept telling me that it was unidentifiable as a dog. But yet the person that started the ball in motion Tuesday morning apparently seen something with beagle markings while driving by at 100km per hour. But the Fowler’s patrol according to Neil said they couldn’t tell it was a dog. The part that needs fixing is the policy to take someone’s pet which is part of the family and toss it over the bank to let the animals feed on. That is not right. There is no reason that my Tallie could not have been taken to the yard and put in a snow bank for the day to see if anyone called. In the summer they could have a small freezer to put the animal in temporarily. Another thing is they never scanned the dog for a microchip. The microchip would have identified Tallie and we would have had her in a couple hours. Fowler’s don’t own a scanner so when people pay for a microchip but it doesn’t do a bit of good because of their policy. The way this was handled by Fowler’s Construction highway maintenance office was terrible and I don’t want any other person to go through this. The handling of the domestic animals to be just thrown over a gate at a dump site. Their excuse was we didn’t know it was a dog but yet the pit guy seen that it was a dog by having a quick look in the bag on Wednesday morning and when I looked in the bag I could tell it was as Tallie by just looking at a foot. Fowler’s screwed up and the guy that initially was supposed to radio the patrol person (Neil) has no compassion and not a person that should be dealing with the public at all. No Microchip Scanners , No Return phone calls and not actually burying the dog like they said they did. Fowlers CHANGE YOUR POLICY. Because I’m working on having it changed for you like it or not.
Jay Faulkner says
Yes John, this is exactly what is happening here in Huntsville!
Even though we were all given the dramatic Provincial alert “Stay At Home”! THIS IS THE LAW!
Cross country skiers are arriving up here utilizing motels/hotels and even Arrowhead Provincial Parks own cabins of which there are ten. These are booked solidly for the winter and there is no sign that the reservations have been cancelled!
The problem is not the actual skiing and utilization of the Park. The problem is that these out of town folks are utilizing grocery stores, liquor store, drug stores and in the event of an injury will most certainly use our hospital!
Its just insane for this government to be so concerned about our wellbeing but at the same time be complicit in promoting and allowing the above to take place! Very very strange!!
George Gilley says
Thank you Susan for your note about the town plowing Forbes Hill Road. It was rediculous and dangerous to have this sidewalk as a skidoo trail forcing people to walk on the road.Now if dog owners (a few) would pick up their dogs messes our walks will be even more enjoyable
Allen Markle says
Was on the way to my mailbox the other day when I noticed a vehicle stopped at the railroad tracks. Unusual, inasmuch as most people sail across as if there is no stop sign there. Then saw something silvery make an arc out the passenger window.
So I proceeded to investigate. At first I could find nothing, but then spotted a silver can on the snow. Waded down to retrieve an empty Molson Ultra can.
The car had driven past me with the passenger window still down and I could see the driver plainly. I also got the vehicle plate number. Drinking while driving. Indiscrete littering.
Guess I should be grateful for the extra 10 cents.
John Draycott says
Resorts & Hotels remain open
The general info
Given on CBC news as I just
Watched it,is that Ontario residents
Are not to be traveling except for essential reasons.
Hotels & resorts are open here in Muskoka during this
28 day lock down.
I phoned One of Huntsville’s largest resorts and sure enough they are open. When I asked them why they are open for business & reservations they
Said they are open for people to go there & self isolate but they have to book for
Longer stays.
That short term stay was not allowed but longer
Stays were .
So does that mean people are allowed into our community from Urban centres (when they aren’t supposed to be traveling unless essential).How can it be justified for people to travel from where there is a higher concentration of covid – 19 , possibly
A-symptomatic but with covid then go to our grocery stores and potentially spread covid in our local
Community. One could say well the hotel would be feeding them but there is no one out there monitoring
Hotel stayers from traveling to grocery stores as they wish. It makes no sense to go from your residence in the city to sit in a small resort or hotel room to self isolate for two weeks unless you have alterior intentions like holidaying cross-country skiing or what ever… and yet us local community members are supposed to follow the rules of the lockdown. It would be easy to check who is booking into resorts & where they are coming from. You can be sure it isn’t the locals booking these rooms… there would be no need. These people booking into these resorts should be fined for unnecessary travel. It would be easy to trace.And the hotels & resorts should be shut for the duration of the lockdown. If a private resident holds a large gathering they can be subject to large fines & yet a resort because it is big business seems to have a loop hole that allows it to have travelers come & set up a perfect storm for more spread of covid. Is this Ontario Government serious about stopping the spread of covid or are they just good at token gestures ( even tho it originated in China we can learn from them. China had a serious lock down and pretty much put the brakes on covid in about 2 months. Is
Our Provincial Government playing a little shell
Game with us
( speaking out of two sides of the
Mouth) jeopardizing the health of the local
Community ?
This needs an immediate response .
Rob Millman says
Ms. Huddleston:
As perhaps the individual with the most contrarian comments; I would like to thank you personally for publishing every single one.
Susan Gammage says
I’d really like to thank the town for plowing the sidewalk on Forbes Hill (usually a snowmobile trail); and for plowing the track in the old soccer field at Lions Lookout and the path through the woods down to Camp Kitchen. It makes walking a lot easier for those of us seniors who do this loop every day.
Gerry Lannan says
Hugh;
Could Doug Ford do anything so egregious as to elicit even a hint of criticism from you;
after being elected as Premier of all (some) of the people, he rolled back he $15 an hour min wage;
he stopped the living wage experiment;cancelled 2 paid sick days;reduced inspections at LTC homes from yearly to every 3 yrs; emasculated coservation authorities to allow developement. I wonder if any of this might have affected the rate of covid spread..
Dawn Huddlestone, Managing Editor says
Hi Ryan,
Our guidelines are published here: https://doppleronline.ca/huntsville/doppler-community-guidelines/.
Ryan Vallentin says
Hello Dawn,
First off, thank you for your great work
Secondly, perhaps you could shed some light on comments that “don’t meet our community standards” as there are a few individuals who feel they are unjustly censored. It may help them, and other readers, to know what types of comments do not see the light of day.
I personally believe that the Doppler, that is a privately owned media outlet, is well within their rights to refuse posting comments that either spread hate, list non-proven ideas as fact, or incite violence. Censorship is not always a negative method, sometimes it is very necessary to keep the peace.
Karen A Insley says
Ray V. Whew! It was becoming lonely as the only one getting censored on Doppler! Counting how many times: lots! Welcome Ray!
Wasn’t it Alice’s restaurant, that Arlo Guthree sang about, ‘if 2 are on the bench, it’s considered a movement, 3 it’s a…’? Is anyone out there a 3rd? Who would have thought, we’re now in the same Company with the POTUS? Is there a C medal for that? Funny, that movie was protesting Vietnam war, & it brought back memories of being censored for protesting then at the local assembly at H high school! My, how details may change but times just seem to stay the same? Wasn’t quite fully awake then, but by grace, am grateful now!
Kathy Kay says
I was encouraged to see that the track by Lions Lookout is ploughed and sanded. Such a gift for those needing a safe place to walk while the inside track is closed! And for joggers, etc. Great way to support the community’s physical and mental health.
Now, can we get Cann Pond cleared for skating? Lake Vernon is frozen over so expect shallow Cann is almost ready. I was disappointed to see the change shed isn’t in place yet, not a good sign. Is there a decision regarding clearing the pond?
Barb Armstrong says
January 10th, 2021
World cases 89,731,755
World deaths 1,928,334
US cases 22,138,995
US deaths 372,522
Canada cases 657,323
Canada deaths 16,869
Ontario – let’s hope the numbers are down again, because “they” were predicting cases over the 4,000 mark by the end of the month, this is the 10th, and on the 8th, we already went over 4,000.
The now three new variants/mutations, are scaring people more than ever because of their capability of spreading faster. According to research released by Bloomberg, if you keep washing, masking, and distancing – and now add ‘avoid travel on buses, subways, and going inside’ with other strangers, I’d assume, then you might stand a chance. The problem is – while none of them seem more deadly, if you get a whole mass of people getting sick faster, and the hospitals are already overloaded, they can’t care for anyone and they’ll turn people away, a lot of people won’t get any help. The medicines will run out. The healthcare workers will get sick and probably die from the constant exposure, and we’ll all be screwed.
So, please, let’s take this more seriously than we ever have before.
There are essential workers out there, Canada – medical workers, front line workers, truckers, and the guys that work on those trucks, and the ones that keep food flowing in the stores, etc. “ESSENTIAL” people – they need the chance to stay healthy.
They can’t do it with everyone else being stupid, careless, thoughtless, selfish, bored, or frankly, even just lonely.
If they can’t safely work in their environments because of a stupid person ‘needing’ to be in an essential person’s bubble without a mask and/or closer than 6’, or feeling it is their ‘right’ to go ‘inside’ a store and not do a curbside pick-up – we’ll all be screwed. This is not the time for selfishness. This is not the time for stupidity. This IS the time to be SCARED.
For Example – on Saturday, January 9th, 2021 – In Barrie, Ontario:
“Royal Victoria Regional Health Centre (RVH), in consultation with the Simcoe Muskoka District Health Unit, has declared a COVID-19 outbreak on its Integrated Stroke and Rehabilitation unit. Seven patients who recently received care in one section of the 40-bed unit have tested positive for COVID-19, along with two staff members who are safely self-isolating at home. – The unit is closed to new admissions and transfers.”
The words “Closed to new admissions and transfers” – means if anyone needing help due to having a stroke – not Covid – a STROKE – cannot go to RVH’s unit. Think About That. When we shut down the hospitals due to Covid…they can’t open for car accidents, strokes, heart attacks, etc. When we exhaust our medical people and overload our health care system with Covid – there is no where else to go for help.
Let’s work together to DROP the Numbers. Flatten and REDUCE the Curve. BE SCARED – WASH hands and groceries – DISTANCE more than 6 feet now – WEAR the MASK. … Be Scared – We need to Fix This.
Steve Lehman says
Kicked to the Curb
Every month a national auto parts chain sends me a bill for an ancillary service not provided in the store proper. Every month I drive across town and pay it the old fashioned way, with cash. I do it this way, not to make a political statement or lack of knowledge of online protocols, but because it works and I usually end up impulse buying something I forgot I needed anyways.
This past Saturday morning, because of the pandemic lockdown I knew I wouldn’t be able to enter the store but was hopeful that with the curbside service I could just hand them my bill with enough money to cover it and they would shortly thereafter bring me a receipt. I was pleasantly surprised, however, when a young man came outside and politely informed me that I could enter the building through the garage service bay doors and pay with cash there. I was doubly happy because I had brought an outdated product with me with a questionable sku that I hoped they could replace with a generic product.
But, alas, it was not to be. As two of the three people behind the counter watched the third one process my payment, I asked if one of them would mind finding me the product I needed. “I’m sorry sir, but we are offering curbside pickup only. You’ll have to go online, order it and then come back and pick it up at the other doors.”
Well, you can imagine all the things I wanted to say but fortunately I was basically speechless so I just replied, “Well, that won’t happen”, took my now processed statement and exited the store as the three stood and watched.
Now, I get that how retail stores deal with these unusual times is a work in progress. None of us has all the answers and if we think we do then we haven’t asked all the questions. But I also know that in retail, service is the single most important product offered. That is why Webers Burgers is so successful – they have an unbelievably basic menu offering but the service is absolutely beyond reproach. Every customer is treated like a somebody.
By placing my order face-to-face at this store I was cutting out the ‘middle man’ of online shopping. I was there with cash, getting my product would have involved no more effort than if I had ordered it earlier online and yet, apparently, all the black and white rules had to be followed.
Tragically, through no fault of their own and no matter how much they try to adjust and adapt their business plan, some businesses are going to fail in the next few months. If the customers aren’t there, they just aren’t there. But when a customer is there and yet is made to feel like they shouldn’t be, well, that just doesn’t make sense.
John Murray says
Just in case those that chose too risk the lives of others and flout the law. The OPP were out yesterday conducting another “RIDE” check point in Huntsville yesterday afternoon. I for one appreciate their commitment to the cause to rid these muppets off our roads.
Bonnie Branton says
Re : ‘GATES placed on Lions Lookout
Hill (a traditionally used toboggan hill.)
Silas you’ve made an important observation of the danger newly placed gates pose on Lions Lookout Hill.
Years ago my young daughter tobogganed down a hill with a chain link fence (& steel posts) far down the hill.
She hit a steel post and suffered a complex ankle fracture requiring surgery. I was told her ‘growth plate’ was involved & her leg may not grow the same length as her other leg.
Thankfully, that wasn’t the outcome.
You are a very socially responsible teenager Silas, to point this danger out for others and I want to
THANK YOU.
Denise Cooper says
PLEASE, figure it. out but get the kids back into the classroom. Betweem the Union and the Health Department surely there is enough brain matter to make this happen.
Silas Knappett says
Hello
I’m just curious as to why there are gates blocking the lions lookout hill as many people go tobogganing there and may end up hurting themselves. Many people are trying activities outdoors instead of indoors during COVID and as long as I can remember the unused winter hill has been a toboggan hotspot. I understand if it’s to stop vehicles, but it could hurt someone. Maybe if they moved it back a bit?
One of the few teens who doesn’t just sit on screens,
Silas
Chas Clark says
I have just read in this week’s Forester (January 7) on 5 Huntsville Decisions to Watch in 2021 that the Huntsville Town Council aims to keep rate increases below 1.84 %. We have had a year and still ongoing with the dreaded Covid, where business, people working and schoolchildren have suffered immensely and where many people are on a financial borderline between survival and collapse. To even think of a rate increase when the council services have been reduced and the Covid restrictions are going to continue until the population is vaccinated (your guess is as good as mine) beggers belief. Lets have a zero budget increase this year to help those business and people who are continuing to suffer.
Patrick Flanagan says
If you are like me, you wonder when the scourge of COVID 19 will be behind us so we can resume a somewhat normal life. Will it happen in the spring, or will we have wait until summer? The answer is that it will happen when we develop herd immunity, that is, when a high enough percentage of the population is immune to COVID either because they have already recovered from it or, preferably, they have been vaccinated. It’s time for some COVID math.
The herd immunity threshold for COVID is unknown, but experts suggest it is likely to be at least 60 percent. As the population of Ontario is approaching 15 million, that means we need at least 9 million people to be vaccinated. Twice. So we need 18 million doses.
Yesterday, 10,350 doses of COVID vaccine were administered in Ontario. But we are just getting started. Let’s assume we can ramp it up to 50,000 vaccinations per day. That should be easy, as we have had nine months to prepare.
At 50,000 per day, we can complete 18 million vaccinations in 360 days. Almost in time for Christmas 2021.
Of course, if the herd immunity threshold is higher than 60 percent, or if we cannot deliver 50,000 doses per day, seven days per week, then the goal line will not be reached until some time in 2022.
Dawn Huddlestone, Managing Editor says
Ray, to date we have posted 224 of your comments. However, as I’ve noted in the past, comments that don’t meet our community guidelines will not be posted.
Ray Vowels says
I have said this before and i’ll say it again but likely doppler will not post it . For some reason they never post a comment I make on nay story. So this is the last time I waste my time posting my opinion on this site.
Talk about censorship.
Brenda Begg says
Re Anna-Lise Kear’s December 30 comment:
You are correct that “responsible businesses will take action to protect their employees and customers.” However, without naming theses local stores/businesses, there are several who are NOT monitoring the number of customers who can enter and/or customers without masks. When I see a family or group without masks it’s highly unlikely that all of them have health issues that prevent them from wearing a mask. So, I leave that store. When I see that the store is crowded and physical distancing is challenging, I leave that store. Something’s wrong with this picture.
Thank you ? to the employees/staff of stores and businesses who have been diligently working hard since the beginning of the pandemic to keep customers and staff safe. Those are the businesses that I support.
Anna-Lise Kear says
*Correction* My apology, Rod Phillips completed his MBA at Wilfrid Laurier and his undergrad at Western University. Not sure where he was when ethics classes were happening; resigning really was an after thought, following the disclosure to the public about his vacation time abroad, while the rest of us in lockdown. All in elected leadership need to walk the talk that they expect of their citizens.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Mr. Peter Dirks; Either the Monkman School of Business did not teach Rod Phillips about transparency and hypocrisy , during his MBA, or he missed the classes.
Peter R. Dirks says
Minister of what ? For a Finance Minister of our Province , to take a vacation at this time is ::
# 1 not a two week vacation , but a 4 week vacation, taking the rules of 14 day isolation into account.
# 2 Ho is paying for the isolation time and looking after his responsebilities ?
#3 If he is so stressed out in his job , why not try to be a Doctor or a Nurse.
#4 If you want to work in politics and be accepted , you will have to be responsible .
I hope that no additional payments of any form get considered .
All of this gives the hard working politisions a bad reputation they due not deserve.
Anton Doppler says
The Name DOPPLER on Line is your Name DOPPLER ???? Please let me no Thanks
Anna-Lise Kear says
Carol Corry; I truly understand your possible frustration. We can assume that tracking and tracing of known positive COVID cases is being done by our burdened health units. Because Community acquired COVID is with us, we have to be vigilant in following health unit directions – still. Labelling these directions as “guidelines” is too wishy-washy, in my opinion. Take them as “directives”.
Responsible businesses will take action to protect their employees and customers. Those employees/customers who do not feel their safety is properly protected, should first speak to their employer/union rep – if little happens to enforce health unit instructions, then they should contact their health unit with concerns.
Carol Corry says
Why are these COVID cases kept Secrets we should know where these people have been or are in our community, where they at the grocery store, or bank , that I might have been at and when?
Brenda Begg says
Em Arde, Anna-Lise: It is very disheartening that lives are needlessly lost to Covid. We are now in Lockdown. Despite urgings and desperate pleas from Health officials and government, there are still people who disregard best practice such as: mixing households indoors, no masks, nonessential travel to other communities cities, towns, States, overseas and so on. An indoor Christmas gathering of 20 people from different households certainly flaunts the rules- to say the least.
If we don’t behave, we’ll be riding the roller coaster of Lockdowns for some time. Sadly, there will be more needless deaths, a strain on our hospitals and frontline workers, in addition to permanent shutdowns of some restaurants and other businesses.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Dear Em Arde; stupidity, selfishness, and a sense of invincibility (they need a ball cap and cape to go with their superpower) seem to abound! Thanks for keeping sensible concern front and centre.
Our out-of-town family shut down the plans for time together here in Huntsville the week before Christmas – writing on the wall. Yet, I witnessed, at a local meat store, a twentysomething couple requesting a larger fresh turkey because they had 20 people coming over! The owner and all those of us physically distanced in line, with masks could only shake our heads – each of us was thinking the exact same thing.
Em Arde says
Why don’t people care? Sadly, if I threw a snowball from my yard I could probably hit the house where a neighbour recently died from CODIV-19 complications. Those poor people. And yet, despite the province-wide lockdown that started yesterday, other neighbours still have family up from outside the area (even though indoor gatherings of multiple households are prohibited). And I just watched another group of neighbours, including at least a dozen adults and children, head over together to a nearby hill with their toboggans and sleds in hand (even though outdoor gatherings are limited to 10 people or less). SMH.
jerry paris says
Wind turbines are unable to work well if the wind is too high or low or gusty. The turbine in pickering was often stopped, with blades feathered, es the unit only produced effective power 8 percent of the time according to hydro, not 18, or 80 as wind generator friends want you to think.drive toward Winsor and you will see dozens resting.
jerry paris says
I lived in Pickering when hydro put in the wind generator, that at that time was the biggest in Canada. That generator produced useable power * percent of the time, while next to it were nuclear generators that can produce power on demand, but are also capable of carrying a base load. solar cannot carry a base load and only works when your panels are in the sun and not covered with snow. If we are to go green go nuclear with no green house gases, and cheaper per kw.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Full disclosure, I am not a card-carrying member of any political party.
My concern is that we keep the travesty of LTC in this province under full sunlight. The Ford Conservative government has been tone deaf on the environment and for-profit LTC during these times. More money, more LTC beds, more community services – for example may represent only a fraction more than previously presented by provincial governments (be careful to question the announcements).
I can imagine the for-profits “licking their chops” at the thought of new builds in LTC sector, more management opportunities, more investment for better dividends. DF continues to favour the for-profit investment model and this will not change (e.g. sending in a for-profit company, with record inspection violations of their own, to manage another nursing home at risk).
So folks, I seriously ask you to consider at the next Provincial election that we all pay attention to which parties offer a transition from for-profit to non-profit ownership and management of LTC facilities. If we’re really observant, we will also watch for the same in our home care community services.
Thank you for your consideration of my thoughts.
Rick & Laurie Davison says
Congratulations Bob. You are truly amazing in all walks of life.
Another well earned accolade!!
Cheers,
Laurie & Rick Davison
Em Arde says
Anyone running a home business should know that business income is not the same as revenue. Shame on those who used their revenue amount to apply for CERB when their business income would not have qualified them, and who now claim to have been confused by the term “income” and that the CRA is being unfair in asking them to repay the CERB money they had accepted so disingenuously.
Martin Calderon says
Response to Jerry Paris Re: Zero Emission.
Jerry, you are correct regarding the pitch to try and sell electric cars and the misuse of the words zero emissions.
Where I think you are incorrect, I believe coal fired electric plants have been mothballed.
I know diesel fired electric plants do exist especially in the high arctic.
With the advent of electric cars we need to also change our electric grid to more renewable sources such as wind, and solar.
Another area to look at is battery technology and hydrogen fuel cells.
Great comments Jerry! Thank you for provoking thought and discussion
Evert McIlwain says
Kathryn…Conservatives, in my view, do a lot of complaining about everyone else…but I need to hear from you what is it they are wanting/going to do. You say “Conservatives are for Canadians” and then go on to list what you feel are all the deficits from the Liberals. Give me your list of Conservative plans to combat these deficits so I have something to compare them too…thanks
Stan Dronseika says
Ohh, Kathryn, your rant has such a lilting ring of Trumpisim to it.. Ya?
Kathryn Henderson says
The conservative govt is for Canadians. The liberal are liberally throwing money away and taking Canada down. They are not for Canada or Canadians. They spend money like kids I’m a candy store. They are killing small businesses, they are not helping the indigenous but can give away billions. And our vets were let down again this term. Liberals areote interested in filling their own pockets and other countries pockets.
Paul Kuebler says
Discounted Today and Gone Tomorrow
The Progressive Conservative Government has decided to give a break to campers in Ontario. Wonderful, now the provincially run parks, which are already overbooked, will have less revenue to support their operations.
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/59194/ontario-making-it-more-affordable-to-enjoy-provincial-parks
The Alberta Progressive Conservative Government had announced in March that they will be closing some provincial parks and partnering or selling others to private interests.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/alberta/article-alberta-to-close-parks-privatize-services-in-budget-cuts/
Back in Ontario, while some may welcome the discount and increased affordability, mark my words, this is going to be short lived. Before the 2022 provincial election, this provincial government will make a similar announcement as Alberta and close and/or sell off parks, because they are no longer viable and are a burden on the taxpayer.
This trend is not unlike the selling off of the 407 (an annual money MAKER) for far LESS than it cost to build it. The PC governments are about balancing budgets, no matter the long-term consequences. They sell money making government programs, handing them over to private interests, to later boast, they have balanced the budget, for THAT year. They have considered selling the LCBO and Ontario Lottery Commission, which bring in millions of dollars annually to OUR government budget.
Just for a moment, let’s look at Health Care. Again, in Alberta, the PC Government is looking at privatizing Healthcare. In fact, there are already privatized surgeries occurring.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7404348/ucp-private-healthcare-policy-approved/
When you think about the private labs in Ontario, and the gutting of our Healthcare systems, we may be heading in the same direction.
Bottomline, the Ontario PC government is offering a discount today, and tomorrow it will cost you MORE!
“For the People”, I think NOT!
Paul Kuebler,
Port Sydney, Ont.
jerry paris says
Electric vehicles are called zero emission vehicles. They are not zero emission, they just move the emission point from the point where the car is to the point where the power is generated, think coal or diesel generation. So pleas stop using the term zero emission vehicle.
jerry paris says
We have one big problem with other forms of voting, namely coalition governments like we now have, where a party that a With coalition governments parties that want to spend do so without thinking about the country long term, think italy or greece as two quick examples.Let us canada to the list.
Frank de Jong says
Our MP, Scott Aitchison is correct, political parties should work together more often. It’s unfortunate that our electoral system (First Past the Post) pits parties against each other instead of building bridges between them. Most countries in the world use proportional representation (PR) because it encourages political parties to build on commonalities rather than accentuate differences. It does this by eliminating the problems of throw-away votes, artificial majorities and strategic voting.
For example, while Scott eloquently praises the beauty of Muskoka, he ignores the worsening climate chaos which threatens to destroy all we love. The first past the post system forces many MPs to deny the existence of climate change to attract votes. If Canada switched to proportional representation, MPs of all stripes could work together on this and other issues without alienating voters.
James Wagg says
With the rising numbers in Simcoe Muskoka Region threatening to move us to the next level, you can imagine my shock watching our Mayor on Barrie news promoting tourism for Huntsville. We have done well keeping our numbers down, this virus is not carried on the wind or pops up out the ground. It is a person to person contact. So why are we asking for more possible infection to come to our town. I get it Huntsville is built on tourism and in normal times, invite them in, but this is not normal times. As for the money brought in by tourism, ask your self if we lose one resident of our town due to exposure from an infected visitor, is it worth it. It could be your parent or grand parent think about it.
Kathleen Gilchrist says
This Covid virus is getting worse. I think it is disgusting how the Town is inviting tourists to come here. No compassion for Huntsville residents that have been so good about isolating and abiding by the rules. Even the Health Doctors are saying NO.
Martin Caldeton says
I am a professional in Huntsville who is working as a taxi driver during covid. I have posted before regarding the large number of people not wearing masks. For a short period of time, this improved. Currently, with the influx of visitors I have noticed a steep decline in mask wearers. I have also noticed that people are more combative when asked to wear a mask. Please, please, put your mask on! I am trying to earn a living, not a hospital bed
Em Arde says
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Em Arde says
I saw the sidewalk plow come by today. And I watched as the poor driver had to stop every few houses and get out of his cab to move garbage cans and recycling bins off the sidewalk. C’mon, neighbours. Give the guy a break, and let him do his job interrupted. Put your bags, bins and cans on your driveway, so the road and sidewalk plows aren’t impeded.
Tracey Stone says
I just wanted to say a BIG THANKS to the gentlemen of GM’s service department!! I broke my windshield wiper the other day and would not have made it home, I stopped there and they helped me by fixing it and didn’t charge me for it!!
Thanks again!
Norm Vanstone says
In answer to John Robinson’s comments about ALS, there is significant research being done in Canada at the Tanz Centre of Research in Neurodegenerative diseases at University of Toronto. https://www.tanz.med.utoronto.ca/als
Some of this work is supported by the James Hunter Family ALS initiative. . Today I received an update from the Initiative. https://prdenpfe1.utorcsi.utoronto.ca/v.aspx?SI=142932&E=normvanstone%40hotmail.com&S=1&N=9028&ID=8651&NL=7101
It is a lot more prevalent than most would believe.
Anna-Lise Kear says
In this time of COVID 19, I am very grateful for the opportunity to lap swim at the Summit Centre; the safety protocols in place are very good. Personally, I know of participants who swim as a primary or secondary treatment to the management of their diabetes, asthma, COPD, pre & post op surgery, cardiac rehabilitation, musculoskeletal disability, neurological disorders, and mental health challenges. Staff are constantly reviewing and revising protocols, in compliance with the public health authorities – and they do so, cheerfully! Promoting health, preventing disability, providing opportunities to sustain our level of rehabilitation, keeps us functioning and out of hospital, and supports us in our volunteer efforts in the community.
John Robinson says
My son Michael is in his 6th year with Lou Gehrig’s disease ALS. He will be 50 yrs old this month. He lives in the USA where he can get the proper care. Canada is lagging behind though Michael who is a doctor is helping Canada improve. He shocked us last night by saying 1 in 300 people in Canada will get ALS IN THEIR LIFETIME. This disease now is 100% fatal. It’s time our government realized how serious ALS is. Most die within 2 to 5 years. Michael is an exception as he fights on. Support your local ALS ASSOCIATION PLEASE!!!
Harry Oswin says
Yesterday, November 29th, was a glorious, sunny day here in Huntsville,
The nets were still up at both Conroy and Meadow Park,.
Thanks to the foresight of our Mayor, Council and the Recreation staff, a dozen folks at Meadow Park
( 8 more at Conroy) were able to play pickleball outside on the second last day of November.
It may seem like a small thing, but during a Pandemic, small things loom large.
Thanks again.
Harry Oswin
Brunel Rd.,
Huntsville
Barb Armstrong says
Well stated Steve Lehman! It is ‘our right’ to breathe clean air, not the potentially infected breathe of someone refusing to wear a mask during a pandemic. It is time for all levels of government to start making the fines and jail time stick. It is time to teach these arrogant, disrespectful people that we ‘all’ have rights and freedoms. The right to a safe, healthy life being the most important.
Stay safe this holiday season everyone. Wash, wear the mask, keep the distance, and exercise our ‘right’ not to spread the virus and our freedom to flatten the curve.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Wonder why we do not have a non-profit vaccine production site in Canada to manufacture a COVID 19 vaccine? Final blow to Connaught Labs, Toronto, a Mulroney legacy, might be an example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connaught_Laboratories
Federal Conservatives might not be aware.
Anna-Lise Kear says
Thank goodness for the light that the Auditor General’s Report shines on the leadership of Ontario’s response to COVID 19- governmental-public health leadership. Actions which could have been taken, by authorities were not. I am not totally surprised; the RNAO (Registered Nurses Association of Ontario) was calling for the resignation of Dr. Williams in the early months of the first wave. Looking forward to reading this report, when I can locate a copy. I suspect that these were not just small missteps, we’ll see.
George Gilley says
What other town forces people to walk on the road while the side walk is left unplowed for skidoos
I am referring to Forbes Hill Road east from Brunel to the turn heading towards the De Novo Center
This is part of a two km route recommended to seniors as a walking route
I have brought it to the attention of the town with no answer
Kathryn Henderson says
I would like to know why Terziano can’t let us taxpayers know how much rent we are getting for the newly town acquired kW pipe property. What’s the big secret? It is being bought with our money we have a right to know.
Ryan Vallentin says
Hello Em,
I think it’s a combination of many causes for people to ‘ignore’ the arrows
1) Ignorance, they just are too absent minded to realize the arrows have a meaning
2) Arrogance, they just don’t care about anyone else and are just in a rush
3) Started out the correct direction, but moved back against the arrow to reach items that were passed (I’m guilty of this all the time)
4) Aisle was empty, so went the wrong way, and hopefully turn back around should another shopper enter (I’m also guilty of this, but if the aisle is empty, I really don’t care if I’m going the wrong way while it’s empty)
5) Item within the first few feet of the aisle exit, pure laziness, don’t want to walk around
All this aside, I’m very forgiving of people who are already struggling with mobility, these people need to just move along the best that they can regardless of arrows.
Em Arde says
Why do so many people seem to find it so difficult to follow the directional arrows on the floors in our stores? Are these people truly in such a hurry that they cannot abide by the rules like everyone else? Or is it that they just don’t care?
Mary Spring says
So excited to see that Huntsville’s Covid Isolation Quilt has found a permanent home at the Algonquin Theatre in downtown Huntsville. It hangs right beside the Canada 150 quilt that our community made in 2017. The Isolation Quilt tells stories of how people are managing during this pandemic. The stories are being compiled in a book that will be on display beside the quilt when our lives return to some sort of normalcy. Thanks to Matt Huddlestone who realized the importance of the Isolation Quilt and found a space for it. Thanks Terri Howell for preparing the quilt for hanging in this space. Thanks to the people who took time to create a square and to tell their stories. This, I believe, is history in the making.
Anna-Lise Kear says
With the linked announcement, it appears the Ford government has projected an apparent claw-back in the new LTC budget, 2021.
https://pressprogress.ca/doug-fords-new-covid-19-budget-plans-to-spend-nearly-100-million-less-on-long-term-care/
Perhaps he is welcoming new for-profit investors into this health sector.
Does anyone have further details?
Edward Butikofer says
I wonder if a lockdown is as bad as portraid. Lockdown go bankrupt. stay open and die is there a choice?
Steve Lehman says
It’s been fifty-one years since Richie Havens sang about freedom at the Woodstock music festival. This past week we were reminded about the seventy-five years that have passed since so many died to guarantee the freedoms that we now enjoy in this country, freedoms like speech and the freedom to congregate and protest.
Unfortunately, during all these observances and commemoration ceremonies nothing is ever mentioned about the other edge of the double-edged sword of freedom, namely the painful sharpness of responsibility. That is perhaps why we now have fringe protestors irresponsibly endangering the lives of others by brandishing this sword of rights and freedoms and refusing to wear masks during this pandemic.
Now, I get that none of us wants to live in a police-state. That is not the legacy our brave veterans died to bequeath us with and so our political leaders of all stripes have instead implored us to voluntarily do the right thing and collectively work toward the greater good. While I appreciate that this plea implies the government trusts and respects us as individuals responsible enough to make the right decision, in the real world it doesn’t work. That is why we enact laws to penalize people who drink and drive or don’t wear seat belts or drive distracted or carelessly discharge a firearm or a hundred other things. Left to our own devices, a selfish few will invariably and disproportionately affect the existence of so many others so perhaps the time has come for Trudeau or Ford or Kenney or all other hesitant political leaders across the country to take those few by the hand and penalize them into adulthood. I don’t think their right to breath out contaminated air supersedes my right to breath in air that is clean.
Or perhaps we could take a cue from our southern neighbours, arguably the most litigious people in the world. At some point in time I believe it became a punishable offence in Canada to knowingly infect an unsuspecting sexual partner with HIV. If we were allowed to press assault charges against or sue anyone who could be proven to have known that they were infected with Covid-19 and yet refused to comply with safe health procedures and subsequently infected an innocent person, then perhaps that would be enough of an incentive to convince them to become a more contributing member of society.
And speaking of the U.S. – if there is one good thing that can be said about this pandemic, it’s that it was quite probably the silver bullet that ended Donald Trumps hate filled reign. Without his totally inept handling of it, his re-election would have likely occurred and every ‘anti’ faction that existed or has sprouted over the last four years would have really blossomed and spread their poisonous seeds of anger even further into Canada. Anti-abortion, anti-gun control, anti-vaxers, anti-maskers and now, apparently, millions of Americans who are anti-democracy, willing to give up their faith in the election ballot system because of the ramblings of a master inventor of conspiracy theories who at one point suggested they drink disinfectant as a possible cure for covid. Hmmm. Does all this embracing of anti-everything make Trump the epitome of an anti-hero?
Kathryn Henderson says
This may sound stupid but it would be nice if at all the lights the turn and go straight sighs were hanging where you can see them and not just painted on the road which is usually covered with a car or snow. Just saying.
Robert Paul Attfield says
“Ontario continues pro-development anti environmental plan. ” This headline appeared in the Toronto Star Nov 6th. It uses the Minister’s Zoning Order to allow development in wetlands, forests, ravines and farmlands and conservation areas. This has not yet been approved, but because of the pro development policies of the current Provincial Government, it appears that those of us who care about the environment and the future of of the planet need to monitor and react strongly to attempts to weaken environmental legislation. Stay tuned.
Debbie Kirwin says
Have you heard? The District has now commissioned a Corridor accessible bus! It has been a long 8 years in the waiting. The District also has a new transit project to provide people living in rural Muskoka access to the major towns and it will be accessible. Now if we could just get Huntsville to move forward with the plans on their transit set out in AODA and their own 5 year plan (improvements for all) that was to begin two years ago.
Bonnie Branton says
As it was not prohibited-
Porch light on, music on, Covid safety measures in place.
Trick or Treaters had a much needed ‘near normal’ Halloween evening out.
Parents drove their kids to end of driveway, where they waited for a clear spot to come up to receive their treats. So impressive – all masked (at least one), patient and VERY happy and delightful. Great job families!
Em Arde says
Oh my god! The uproar over Halloween has me shaking my head. We are in the middle of a deadly worldwide pandemic, and people are whining about trick-or-treating? Cancel the whole bloody thing, I say. Is it the end of the world if the kiddies have to skip a year of mooching candy from strangers? Dress up at home if you have an urge that needs to be satisfied. Pick up some candy when you are getting your groceries. Watch scary movies, tell scary stories, and gorge yourself on mini chocolate bars and Sweet Tarts until you throw up. Even though I am child-free, I have happily shelled out to the kiddies every year of my adult life … but this year the porch will remain dark and the doorbell unanswered. Sorry, but jeez, people!! Stay home, and stay safe. It is time for a serious reality check.
Rob Millman says
Good on you, Sophia! i watched a documentary the other day, “American Selfie”. A small portion of it dealt with the massive line-up to purchase the latest Apple hand-held. Unfortunately, it was held on the same day as a climate crisis march. Guess where the students (and a majority of 20- and 30-somethings) were?
Most young people feel somewhat invulnerable: and they are not yet at an age where they’re concerned for their descendants. I have great-grand-children; and thinking about the world that they’ll inherit keeps me awake nights.
Seeing a young lady like Greta Turnberg; and to a lesser extent, yourself; gives me hope.
Sophia Andrew-Joiner says
I would like to recognize the Fridays for Future movement that takes place every Friday at 11:30-12:30 at Town Hall. The same people are there every single week making a statement for our future. I am a high school student, I am the only regular student attendee. I would like to thank those who attend every week. I would also like to express my disappointment in the high school students for the lack of care for our OWN future! Soon, I would like to reach out to you with the names of the attendees because they have persevered so well and have donated their time and money into trying to get more high schoolers involved. Let me know what you think and what else I can include if you would like to do anything with this information. Thank you!
Dr. Don Keedic says
Rob Millman:
Ontario PPM 150 does not allow for fast foods in high schools. The cafeterias that we knew as kids with fries and gravy are long gone. High school cafeterias can not make a profit. Students in Huntsville (used to) go to the arena at lunch because Oliver’s would sell items not restricted by PPM 150. Of course they return to the school and eat their poutine in the hallways.
Rob Millman says
Brian: Neither Mickey D’s or any other multi-national food conglomerate would ever be allowed to operate such a food wagon. Even a RFP would be patently unfair (as the net worth of the interested parties is so diverse). Perhaps, turning the cafeteria into a “food court” would be the best solution.
But then you would have an indoor problem vs. an outdoor problem. And we all know which is, by far, preferable.
brian tapley says
I have to agree with Jacquie about the school kids wandering about with no masks or distance.
These are the best and brightest minds we have and are being groomed and educated at great expense so that they can take over in a few years.
You’d think they would be better at handling the epidemic issues.
Why has no enterprising food cart set up in the High School parking lot? They could sell a lot of lunches and there is a vast open area up toward the lookout where kids can have lunch and be outside with no issues.
The walk to McD’s and back would take up most of the normal lunch time, so not wishing to decrease McD’s obvious appeal it is still a case of much walking with little or no time to actually eat.
Maybe McD could operate a reduced menu food wagon up near the school.. ?
brian tapley says
What is going to appear on the sand pile beside highway 60 in the swamp beside Kawartha Dairy?
Whatever it is it looks like it will not likely flood.
Ellen Duncan says
Is it true that Algonquin Park had to close on Thanksgiving week end?
We are so lucky to live in this glorious part of the world.
ellen
Chas Clark says
On a lighter note. Why do the leaves fall and pile up on my garden when you never see a leaf on the Hwy 11 road surface? Can the MTO let us in on their secret.
Rob Millman says
Hello Lesley,
Please be patient until the Main St. Streetscaping Project is completed. I think that you will be pleasantly surprised by the trees, benches, and new crosswalks that have been included (delineated by variegated paving stones).
Lesley Hastie says
What a lovely new road surface driving from the swing bridge towards King William Street! But when one looks around it is so sterile, austere.
Please, when any improvements of this kind are being done, think trees. What a dramatic difference It would have made visually if trees had been planted there, on both sides of the road. Trees can provide shade and hence reduce the heat for pedestrians and parked cars, they absorb the carbon dioxide from combustion engines, and if the trees were Apple or other fruit bearing trees they would provide food too.
George Gilley says
My wife and I are proud responsible owners of a small Australian Labradoofle and enjoy regular walks with her
We walk the Summit Center circle and parts of the Fairy Vista trail
We are appalled and disgusted at the lack of consideration by some dog owners who do not “scoop” after their dogs. Do they not realize that seniors and children walk these trails ? These people that don’t clean up after their dogs are probably the same people who litter our environment with coffee cups etc
We have also noticed the removal of refuse containers from these public areas. This by itself discourages clean environment habits
Let’s all be responsible Huntsville citizens
HOWARD Bargman says
Canadian Tire Staff and management might want to take mask wearing more seriously. I brought up my considered concerns and was instructed to basically go back from whence I came.
Norma Stahls says
Disapponited and concerned for our community that some businesses are not following the covid 19
guidelines .I have entered three businesses where employees did not wear mask in one I asked are mask not mandatory in Mukoka the reply it’s not a law.To the owner you lost approximately 100 dollars .
By not taking the covid guidelines seriously you show little valve for customers or the community at large.
I want all businesses to succeed I don’t want to be forced to buy on line. My hope is our community will pull together to get through this surreal time by protecting each other by wearing a mask , social distanacing etc.
Stay safe
Norma Stahls
Sharin L Mills says
According to the Doppler update of September 28, 2020, Huntsville has had a total of 20 registered cases of Covid 19. 11 of these cases are reported within one month–August 31 to last week in September.
This is an obvious concern.
What is our Medical community’s reason for this? (opinion or facts).
Also, what would be the solution to avoiding such a significant jump in future?
Our community is very caring and giving. We deserve transparent and honest information and direction. Please help us to help each other.
Jacquie Howell says
I personally do not object to the teenager being out at noon. I object to them not physically distancing or wearing masks. They and they alone can solve the concerns
Ellen Duncan says
I was speaking to a grade 11 student the other day and she is as frustrated as the school board. Students have a choice, stay in the class room or leave the grounds. Where else can they go but uptown.?
No one seems to want the kids.
ellen
Jacquie Howell says
Like many others, I drove through Town in Friday at lunch time. My reaction was shock. Stop blaming the school system They have excellent public health protocol. TEACH your teenage adult:/children the rules. We will have increased cases in schools BUT not from school activities. From behavior on the street, dock, cars and backyards
Wearing a mask at ALL times outside your home would save lives and sickness. (Flu season is coming to complicate everyone’s health. Masks – Hand washing, physically distancing will be more important)
Steve Ainger says
What is on your menu for Thanksgiving? Will you have turkey or ham, perhaps a side of COVID 19?
Since the start of the school year many college and university students in cities such as Toronto, Ottawa, Kingston and London have ignored basic advice with respect to COVID 19 (distancing, wearing masks). No doubt some of them have or will soon become infected. They may be asymptomatic or experience mild symptoms. In three weeks those students who can will be going home for the Thanksgiving long weekend. Its a great time for them to see their families and to reconnect with their friends. After this much anticipated break will they have infected those who they longed to see the most ? I encourage parents to discuss this with their children. Perhaps it would be prudent if they were tested before heading home.
Residents of our area have done a remarkable job of limiting the spread of this virus. Lets continue to enjoy the success we have experienced. When planning for Thanksgiving be mindful of what is at risk. This may be the year to have fewer people around your dining table. You will have more leftovers to enjoy and perhaps better health as well.
Evert McIlwain says
We were driving by Huntsville Public School on Friday. It appeared to be recess time. There were dozens of children and teachers out on the playground, no masks, what appeared to be no social distancing. We are being asked to reduce the group numbers, limit our contacts to just the people we live with at this time. Why is this different for teachers and children? They need to be protected also I know that children have to be active and get outside but it is scary to see this in light of the rising Covid numbers.
Em Arde says
My family continues to maintain pretty strict adherence to the COVID guidelines, and thus we don’t get out much. So imagine my dismay when, today, I had to drive through downtown Huntsville at lunchtime. It was so disappointing to see hordes and hordes of school kids everywhere, clustered in large groups, with no masks on and making no attempt to physically distance from one another. They were laughing, talking, shouting in each others’ faces, without a care in the world … even though that world is in the midst of a devastating pandemic. What a shame.
Brian Howard says
As Residents of Huntsville for a chunk of the year, we are appreciative of the work that various Town Councils have done to create generally good aesthetics for its people.An amazing furthur opportunity presents itself in creating a new Park/beautification area in a high profile area of our Town,namely the area opposite the CIBC Bank Branch.Fully realise that a lot of money would be involved,and money is tight at the moment due to COVID etc.How about a campaign/lottery(if allowable) etc,etc,etc.Let’s not deprive future generations of developing in an environmental/aesthetic way an even greater and more attractive Town!.Let’s do it!! Thank you.
Rob Millman says
Mr. Calderon:
I totally empathize with your situation. I would recommend that you purchase a large package of disposable masks, and refuse to carry any passenger who won’t wear one. It’s totally lawful for a citizen to impose provincial restrictions.
Tam Evans says
Responding to Mr. Rob Millman’s comment below: “With respect to the comments about shoreline erosion; I’m certain that it’s addressed in the OP. So what is required is a bylaw (if one doesn’t exist), and enforcement (if one does).”
I found this resource, which is helpful. https://safequiet.ca/information/boaters-code/
I’d still like to see bylaws that address seadoos specifically. I’ll keep doing some research and post what I find. But you’re right, enforcement if it already exists.
Martin Calderon says
I am a cab driver in Huntsville. Masks are mandatory in the town. Why do people think this doesn’t apply in taxis? I carry many tourists, essential workers from seniors homes, and many people who have just been to the hospital for various reasons. Protect your fellow citizens and wear a mask when you take a taxi
Brenda Duncan says
I would just like to send a ‘virtual high-five’ to the GFL (Green For Life) garbage/compost collection workers. They are super efficient and leave the area neat and clean after picking up. This morning we witnessed them actually picking up extra stuff off the ground which had blown out of our neighbour’s garbage. Glad to see that some people still have some pride in their work. Kudos to GFL for hiring such conscientious young men!
Just glad to have something positive to talk about for a change!
Ellen Duncan says
May I say a huge Thank You to the volunteer staff at the Legion for a wonderful roast beef dinner last tuesday.
Thank you to all involved. It was well run and very well received.
Yummy.
ellen
Donna Hughes says
I just wanted to add to the pot hole, or should I say crater holes on Britannia Rd. Yesterday, I had family members heading home after a visit and they said they were just about hit head on on the S curve as another car was on the wrong side of the road to avoid the holes. I myself have been involved in a head on at that very place over a year ago for the same reason. Insurance companies should start billing the township for all the damages to us and our vehicles. We should start billing the township for all our suspension repairs for avoiding the pot holes.
Ryan Vallentin says
Brittania is one of many roads that have more hot patch then original asphalt. Concession 4&5 is also brutal.
The District of Muskoka is responsible for Brunel Road, the Town of Huntsville is responsible for most of the roads that connect to Brunel.
Shirley Campbell says
I wrote to the town recently about Britannia Road and did not receive a response. I mentioned how sections ( mostly curves) had potholes that were being filled in constantly. Cyclists, motor cycles, cars and joggers use this road. Accidents are happening as drivers want to avoid the holes. It needs to be repaved or at the bad sections for our safety and our car suspension systems. Thank you.
Isabel wagg says
look into how Huntsville promised to redo Brittania rd. A promise of 4 million. They have fixed burnel rd. That didnt need fixing Today I heard of another accident. Unfortunately it maybe a death. In pass, cars have been written off. I myself replaced my front end on my car twice. Pots hole are ridiculous. I’ve had several close calls myself. Drivers are stupid. People who live on the street are aware, Hope you have time to explode Huntsville. We ve also sent patricians
Stan Dronseika says
Why does this sound like a good idea to me. This is purely a rhetorical question so don’t take this opportunity to be rude. 🙂
Ryan Vallentin says
Hello Rob,
Yes that is true, one course per day, for 22 school days. 8 courses per year.
Rob Millman says
Would anybody with high-school-age children please answer a question for me? I heard somewhere that your children will be taking a single subject, 7 hours per day, for a month. Then presumably they would write the final exam for this topic. Of course, I could check this out for myself; but all the rules are in a state of constant flux.
Thank you kindly.
Susan Keetch says
It seems very conserning that Airbnb rentals can have one set of guest move out at 11:00, the owner arrive at 11:30 clean the unit and a new guest move in by 4:30. I checked with Dearhurst and they have the same policy. I feel that this is not sufficient for proper protection. I hope schools that are starting have more intensive cleaning protocols.
Allen markle says
My apologies to Mr. Vance. It was a typo or error, somehow!!
Allen Markle says
Attended a show at the fair grounds put on by Muskoka Festival of the Arts and some of our local musicians. It was great. Locally we certainly are blessed with primo musical talent and have sponsors who are willing to support them. Heard a variety of styles and renditions of Tragically Hip pieces and it was impressive. Was particularly taken by the talent and presentation of Sawyer Lance. She never stopped moving! The exuberance of youth.
A fine evening for some quality entertainment and I sure hope there is more. And when there is,I need tickets! Thanks to you all.
Jim Sinclair` says
Anyone know why the work has stopped on the excavation for that Hotel behind Wendy’s ??
brian tapley says
In a reply to ….
Ryan Vallentin says
August 17, 2020 at 8:21 am
I have to admit that I have not managed to catch any culprits in action. I seem to have other things to do with my day.
However I will grant that it is probably a small percent of people who make all the mess and still drink while driving .
This said, I have to note that contractors time frame puts their vehicle in the right place at the right time to contribute to what I see and that, morning and night contractors are by far the majority of the traffic.
Personally by the way, at our resort we do not use any chemicals to try to control bugs. We use birds and other insects to help control things like mosquitoes. We put up bird houses, and do our very best to foster the growth of things like dragon flies, which eat a lot of smaller bugs. About the only bugs we do attach with chemicals are wasps and nobody really has any choice with these as they are just not compatible with human activities and we simply have to remove them and the only way we can do this is kill them in specific sites. Locations where we can we just leave them alone.
We realize that without the blackflies and mosquitoes though, there would be no fish, no things like blueberry’s and a host of other things that we do like.
I would be remiss not to mention that the people who spray chemicals about to kill unwanted vegetation on lawns and vanquish mosquitoes from cottage yards, are themselves “contractors”. I realize that these people are pretty reputable and follow the rules of the day to be legal but that does not change the fact that what they are doing is generally not what nature would have done and I think nature is arguably more correct than a cottage owner’s personal penchant for a bug free environment.
We are all guilty of changing our environment by virtue of us simply living in it. That is one of the limits to growth that we all face and ultimately it will control us at some point no matter if we like it or not. The world is starting to show the effects of us all pushing this limit. It is part of the cost of there being so many of us humans. It does not matter how careful you are with YOUR wrappers and coffee cups, the very act of driving to work each day, when multiplied by billions of us world wide, is going to do the trick.
It’s tough and not nice and we may, perhaps most of us, feel that individually WE are not the problem, but it all adds up and in reality, the collective world wide “we” is the problem.
brian tapley says
Why does everyone pay lip service to the idea of safety and non-pollution but in reality people just don’t seem to care.
In the regular part of the year, there is a parade of contractors out from Huntsville every morning and return at night. Following this parade one finds the Horton’s cups and wrappers arriving about the time the trucks turn off onto the side roads. These guys make their living from a clean environment that looks nice. That is part of what attracts tourists to the area. You’d think they would care more.
Speaking of the tourists or seasonally adjusted owners. They or maybe their guests (Air B&B??) seem no better. I know this because normally I see a great increase in roadside trash as soon as summer arrives. Not just the wrappers and bottles, but whole entire bags of trash. Once again, these people all come here to be in “God’s country” where things are clean and pristine. You would think that since they have already paid for the dump with their taxes they might use it properly. Last week someone left a huge bag of diapers and trash plus another full of beer empties at the mail boxes at our fire hall. If they thought Canada Post would look after these…. they were sadly very wrong.
A final point that sort of makes me sad is that if you think about it at all, single bottles and cans for alcoholic beverages are quite unlikely to just “fall” off the back of a truck or out a hole in the bottom of a car’s trunk. No, they are far more likely to have been thrown from a window. Maybe this is to get rid of any evidence? Regardless it means that even after 50 years of anti drinking and driving activities by the OPP and groups such as MADD, a significant number of people don’t seem to have received the message and must be drinking while driving. Even if it is only the passenger this is still not legal. This is depressing.
I guess when we start seeing empty bleach bottles on the side of the road we will know for sure that Trump has paid us a visit and driven around our area. So far there is thankfully no sign of this.
Rob Millman says
I wish that I’d known about the mini-Art Show. Although I’m unfamiliar with Ms. Drieger’s work; I’ve always loved Marika’s various treatments of nature. They’re not photo-realism, but you could swear that you saw them somewhere; if only in a dream.
JOHN WYDRA says
My partner and I crawled out from under a rock this weekend (because of the covid) and went to see an art display in a yard on North Mary Lake Road. The artworks of Roxanne Drieger and Marika MacDonald were amazing and were worth coming out of isolation to see. We also were treated to a concert by the Muskoka String Quartet were the seating was well spaced as well as lots of lawn to sprawl out on.. We wandered the grounds enjoying the art displays, talking to the artists while listening to the strains of Beethoven and Mendelson and other classical favourites. I want to thank Roxanne and Marika for a totally enjoyable afternoon and for showing us that life doesn’t have to come to a standstill during a pandemic but that much can be created during such a timetime.
Dr Carolyn Reinhart says
Our wonderful Syrian neighbours of three years need accommodation with 2 bedrooms. Their landlord needs his condo back by the end of October. The parents both work, 1 daughter is returning to pre med university and the other post High School works locally. They have excellent references. My email: reinhartcarolyn@hotmail.com
Ryan Vallentin says
Brian
I wish that you would stop singling out contractors in your rant. Your points about garbage alongside the roadways are true, but do you have any proof that either cottagers or contractors are the primary culprits. I am a contractor, and I know many contractors, and it is not reasonable to believe that we drive around littering all the time. Our vehicles have business names on the side, there are legal and social repercussions for behavior such as littering or bad driving. Of course there are bad apples in every segment of society, but I find it personally insulting that you believe I would rather toss my empty coffee cup out the window then discard it properly. Hopefully I don’t get a service call to your property, I’ve heard that resorts all use nasty chemicals to control bugs and I would fear for my health…. oh wait, is that a stereotype? No offence intended to our local mosquito control businesses, I know your products are safe for us.
Winston Smith (Mr) says
Went down to Toronto this weekend to visit with the grandchildren. My youngest celebrating her sixth birthday in fine style.
And, of course, the discussion came up about school, going back to school or going to school and masks.
Do they work? Whom do they protect and how and should kids be expected to social distance and what about the so-called aerosol effect?
Can’t pretend the sampling was representative of anyone but the parents I met at social distance all wanted the kids safe and back in the classroom, a sentiment that seem to be shared by the children.
But how to achieve that? There it all got a bit vague.
Shrink the class size didn’t seem to be practical because you’d need to hire more teachers — presumably if you half the class you double the teachers, open the windows, install HEPA filters, mandate masks, eat lunch in the classroom and so on.
Anyway it would be interesting to hear how your readers think the local school board is dealing with it because it looks like the TDSB is at loggerheads with the province and the solution down there seems to be delay going back and hope like heck a third or more of the kids opt for home school.
Does that make sense locally?
Two parents I spoke with, okay I overheard them speaking to each other, said they were going to send their kids to some fancy fee-paying school on account of how the class sizes were smaller. But are even social distancing and masks complete answers?
Sure like to hear what folks who read your fine paper have to say.
John Cassidy says
You’d think that because boaters require a boating license they would understand proper water safety however I see about 15 boats a day go around the buoys wrong on Pen lake. Please remember to go in between the buoys and slow down/speed up NOT at the canal entrance but where the buoys are. One of these deerhurst kayakers are going to be killed by stupid boaters who don’t understand you go through them and not around.
Brian Tapley says
I am forever amazed at the amount of garbage that just keeps getting left on the roadways or other roadside spaces.
In the last few days several bags of garbage left at the local fire hall. I guess protecting the residents from fire is not enough to satisfy some of them and they seem to want the fire department to remove their trash too??
There is the constant supply of wrappers, construction waste and beer containers that spreads itself along our roads.
All this seems to increase, along with the supply of fancy SUV’s and sports cars in the summer tourist season so I have to conclude that it is not just the contractor parade of Horton’s wrappers but the actual tourists who are doing this. It is hard to believe that individual beer cans just randomly fall off of trucks. Kind of depressing to think that these were all probably drunk while driving and then tossed… sort of a double insult to society here.
The people come here from the city, call it “God’s Country” (whatever that might mean) and then proceed to drag all their noise, trash and poor driving habits along with them and distribute it about the land.
You’s think if they spent a million dollars on their cottage they would care more about their surroundings? Maybe it is Air B&B in action? I can understand the odd contractor who is not from the area and is just here briefly but even then should know better.
This is not to say all fit this mold, most do not, but there are enough folks out there who make Yogi Bear look smart to be a bit of an insult to our area. Can we maybe get some more of these to care like they should?
To add insult to the injury, when one does pick up a few tossed bags and take them voluntarily to the dump, at one’s own cost of time, the District wants to charge them to YOU! Trusting as only the municipal bureaucratic mind can be they will not believe you picked this stuff up off the road and want to bill it to your account. Thanks for the help here.
Robert Graziano says
I agree 100% with Brenda Duncan about the local newspapers on people’s driveways. I has rield me for a long time and wondered why people just pick them up. If they don’t want the paper call them and tell them.I counted 12 papers on the same driveway one spring morning after the winter snow had melted. There is already enough litter on the streets and DON’T BLAME THE TOURISTS!
Barbara Armstrong says
Having boated past this resort several times over the past few weeks, and witnessing NO signs of even attempted social distancing on the waterfront, why does this not surprise me:
https://www.orilliamatters.com/coronavirus-covid-19-local-news/cluster-of-11-covid-cases-traced-to-group-visiting-muskoka-resort-2629867
Maybe it’s time to smarten up guys. The pandemic isn’t gone. It’s still thriving and killing people. Don’t let sunshine and Stage 3 be your/our demise.
PHYSICAL distance, wear the mask, wash, wash, wash your hands, don’t casually mingle, don’t touch your face until you wash your hands.
It’s not rocket science. It’ll keep our numbers down and our families safe.
Brenda Duncan says
I have walked many of the streets in town and have noticed that a lot of people do not pick up their Forrester papers; they just leave them at the end of their driveways to decompose, I guess! How lazy is that?
This is a free service for everyone so, at the very least, you could walk to the end of your driveway and actually bend over and pick the darn thing up and deposit it in your recycling bin (assuming you actually do recycle). If you are not going to be home for a while, please ask a neighbour or family to pick it up for you. If you don’t want the paper delivered, please just call the newspaper and ask them not to deliver it to your address. It will certainly save the delivery person some time. I am sure they are appalled every week, seeing the paper just, from the week before, just lying there.
I know that this may sound petty to some people but it really irks me! I know that this is such a trivial matter at this time when so much is going on in the world but there is a simple fix to it, unlike a lot of issues currently happening.
Ellen Duncan says
Hi Rob, I understand Baysville Library is really nice also. There again, curb side pick up. I intend on ‘phoning both Baysville and Dwight libraries on Monday. I try to read the large print but will handle the normal
Thank you for your comments, I appreciate another avid reader.
ellen
Rob Millman says
With respect to the comments about shoreline erosion; I’m certain that it’s addressed in the OP. So what is required is a bylaw (if one doesn’t exist), and enforcement (if one does).
Rob Millman says
Thank you, Ellen, for your understanding response. I too am a senior, and an avid reader. At present, I am ordering my books from the Dwight Library for curbside pickup. That, however, is a special trip; whereas it would be far easier to go to the Town Library; as I’m there several times a week.
I am also concerned that this air quality problem possibly started some time ago, and was only discovered when checking the ventilation system due to the pandemic.
edward woolven says
Remember back 10 years +/- when Muskoka was designated Norther Zone. The Liberal government removed that assistance when the area continued to vote Conservative. The present Conservative Government could restore the Northern designation due to costs being higher in this region. Returning passenger train service was a promise prior to election.
Ellen Duncan says
Rob, Thank you for your response to my Empire Lot. I do agree with you. I just get annoyed that a town our size is going without a Library during a busy time of year.
I appreciate your thoughts. I am a senior who relies on the library delivery to my home. It’s a wonderful service and I (along with some friends) miss it.
Ellen
kelly zytaruk says
Its not just the Seadoo’s. Wake surfing boats are becoming more and more popular and they are specifically designed to create an unnaturally large wave.
I have noticed this summer that our shoreline is taking a excessive beating. Even though I have whips on my dock for my boat the waves are big enough to bang my boat into the dock.
The problem cannot be addressed by individualizing any one specific watercraft. The issue needs to be enlarged to encompass respect for the environment and shoreline as well as the safety of swimmers.
Where is the common sense and respect?
Bonnie Branton says
Re: Jet Skiis
A Jet skier recently ran over & killed a gentleman out in his rowing skull.
Please! – rules must be applied to ALL watercraft & operators.
When I was rowing last week, I found the amount of wake lashing the shoreline, produced by high speed Jetskiis, was just as damaging as from a large boat. The loon & duck nests didn’t stand a chance.
For shame…..
Rob Millman says
With respect, Ms. Duncan, I would suggest that the “Empire” lot is the most attractive piece of real estate in town. Ameliorating the air quality problem at the “relatively new” library would certainly be significantly less expensive than trying to move it. Also, you would have to find a buyer for the existing library, which wouldn’t be an easy proposition; given its location and configuration.
Ellen Duncan says
Has there been any movement on the old Empire lot? How about a “new” library.
ellen
Tam Evans says
I agree with Ms Vargas’ comments below re: jet skis / seadoos. We have experienced people doing donuts in our bay on many occasions. My children swim there and I’m always worried they won’t be seen. Furthermore, the stink of the gas spreads to our deck and ruins our otherwise tasty-smelling burgers. Finally, the noise overwhelms the otherwise peaceful atmosphere. I don’t mind an occasional boat going by. But jet ski motors are loud! Are there any by-laws in place specifically geared to jet ski use? How far should they be from shore?
Al kowalchuk says
I would like to know why the water level is being taken down so much. I am on Pen lake and can barely get my boat off the lift.
I have been here 50 years with levels staying relatively close now they are down about a foot.
There is no threat of flooding from the melt right now so why are they dumping down to the south?
Rob Millman says
Municipalities have significant powers under the Ontario Heritage Act. Could the Town not extrapolate the normal uses (century buildings, archeological sites) to include areas of old-growth forests? The province has their “provincially significant wetland” designation. Huntsville, therefore, should at least attempt to designate these forests (and any other areas identified by the OP) as “municipally significant sites” under the OHA.
Bonnie Branton says
I also am on board with Ms. Mckays many pleas over the years to protect our wonderful trees.
Huntsville, unlike Bracebridge & other surrounding towns, does not have a tree bylaw!
One of our main attractions, for residents and visitors, is our wealth of natural assets. Mature trees and forested areas, that would take 100 years to replicate, should be treasured, respected and left for our children to enjoy also.
Even the little town of Port Sydney has officially declared a knarled
old tree at ‘Indian Landing’ a ‘protected’ treasure.
The recent ‘clear cutting’ by developers at places such as Forbes Hill should sound an alarm –
Please put Tree Protection Bylaws in place NOW.
Robin Yule says
Followup to Ms. McKay’s comment on tree destruction. I am not sure if there is an existing by-law that could be invoked in the situation she describes but point out that the existence of such a by-law would probably make little difference. There are two really big problems with the Ontario legislative system. 1) Municipal by-laws are very difficult for the town to enforce as penalties are very small (a cost of ding business for a developer) penalties do not exist or must be applied following a very long and expensive court process. 2) As opposed to most crimes, the perpetrator cannot be held responsible – any contractor illegally removing trees is innocent – the owner of the property must be charged. Contractors routinely knowingly violate by-laws because they are immune. Changing this and making penalties easy to apply would put a stop to many problems. There aren’t that many contractors and they are more aware of by-laws.
All of this is a result of most politicians being strongly in favor of development at just about any cost. The OMB and its successor are prime examples of government for the wealthy developers and against the common man.
Vivian Sammons says
Just wanted to let everyone know what kind of an experience I had trying to put my 21 year old cat to sleep….. I phoned every vet from Sundridge to Barrie…with NO LUCK, because I wasn’t a client nobody would do it!!!! Finally I was lucky enough to get a call back from Cenntenial Animal Hospital in Bracebridge, they would do it….. took Chloe down yesterday and she was lovingly put out of her misery…. my last vet was Ron Strickland and she hasn’t needed care since…. sure is quiet in my home without my girl, but she is resting in my backyard….thanks for listening….
Ruby Truax says
I want to share a couple of stories that illustrate how this mask requirement is affecting some people.
Last week an older woman came into my workplace wearing a mask, as required. Within a few moments, she started to have a panic attack, trembling, sweating, struggling to breathe. She was near tears as she gasped, “I can’t do this. I can’t do this.”
I brought over a chair and a bottle of water and urged her to sit down and take off her mask. She said, “I can’t. We have to wear masks.”
I explained to her that anyone who, for any reason, cannot wear a mask is exempt from the mask requirement, and was finally able to persuade her to take the mask off. Within a few minutes, her breathing steadied and she began to calm down.
This woman did not know about the exemptions. All she understood was that she “has to” wear a mask now.
The next day, an older man came in without a mask and his first words to me were, “My mask broke.” I thought he was explaining why he wasn’t wearing one, so I assured him that we were okay with that. But then he asked me if I had some tape or anything that he could use to fix his mask, and he pulled it out of his pocket.
It was a disposable pleated surgical mask and it was soiled and worn. This man had obviously been wearing it repeatedly until the elastic finally broke. That mask certainly wasn’t of any benefit to anyone in the shape it was in, and yet he wanted to fix it so he could continue to wear it as required.
This man didn’t know that this type of mask is only to be used once. All he knew was that he has to wear a mask now.
In a press release, our health unit said that “SMDHU’s focus is on raising public awareness and educating people on the use of non-medical masks or face coverings in premises where physical distancing may be difficult.” But the two stories I’ve shared show that some of us are only aware of the mask requirement but not of the exemptions, nor of the different types of masks and how they should be used.
If this mask requirement is about public health, there needs to be more education about exemptions and about the different types of masks, to protect people for whom a mask is contraindicated and people who are unknowingly misusing masks.
Carolann Mckay says
Huntsville desperately needs a tree by-law to stop the rampant destruction of trees by developers and others who clear cut large areas of forested areas.
Please attend at Conroy Park in Huntsville tomorrow (July 21, 2020), at 3:00 p.m. to protest the blatant destruction of the natural environment at Forbes Hill Drive.
A reporter from the Forester will be there to take photos of the destruction.
Allen Markle says
Went to a Festival of the Arts presentation at the fairgrounds. Music of the Stones delivered with skill and enthusiasm. Timeless tunes and classic riffs. Loved it all. Mr. Spring and the boys were entertaining to the end. Loved it.
Rob Millman says
Ms. Varga, I empathize with you and your concerns. As a former property owner on Lake of Bays, one of my favourite trips (usually by canoe or rowboat) was down the Oxtongue to Marsh’s Falls. If memory serves, the speed limit was 10km/hr. Even back in the day, this was seldom respected by motorboats, but at least it was the pre-Jet-Ski era.
Of course, these “toys” are promoted to the late teen-early twenty crowd as an activity to be enjoyed with the “liquid” part of summer. I respect this age group highly; but a few of them tar the others. One cannot treat a heavy piece of dangerous machinery as a toy. More respect for this particular watercraft must be included in the BoatSmart course.
Brenda St.John says
I was quite alarmed to see so many people in Shopper’s Drug Mart today without masks. I was only in there for 10 minutes or so and during that time I counted at least 7 people, ( 1 group of 3 in their early twenties, clearly blocking the rule!) I am unclear why this is so, if masks are supposed to be mandatory. How is “mandatory” being enforced???
Maureen McCartney says
Well said Denise Cooper!
Tilly Varga says
I am writing to you as a 40 year seasonal resident of the Oxtongue River. The wildlife is unique and plentiful. The river offers many unique experiences that one cannot enjoy on a lake. Any guests that have stayed with us are always enchanted by the beauty the river offers.
As you all know tourism is ever increasing in the area. This is a good thing for the local economy – merchants, resort owners, restaurants, service providers and the list goes on and on. The area is an awesome place for vacation and relaxation and should be promoted. Unfortunately with the increase in seasonal population up here, there is bad that comes with the good.
We have noticed that in the last few years the traffic on the river has increased. Again, this is a good thing. Majority of boaters that come up the river adhere to speed limits and are courteous. The one problem that the increased traffic on the river has also brought are Jet Skiers. Majority of them have no regard for the posted speed limit signs or any regard to the preservation of the river. I am no prude and actually I am a bit of a speed demon myself. I understand when you are 20 something years old, sitting on your jet ski, on vacation, it’s a beautiful sunny day, the water is the right temperature and in your mind you see the river as an awesome race track with it’s windy curves and the idea of taking that machine full throttle gets the blood pumping. I get it. The problem is that this mind set has caused some near misses.
The most recent one involving my adult children. We watched 8 or 9 of them speed up the river. We heard them at Marsh’s Falls and knowing they were going to turn around to head back to the lake, my daughter got into the canoe and was determined to ask them to slow down on the way back. My son grabbed his “Go Pro” and hopped into our paddle boat to try and catch some footage. Of course, on their way back my daughter was yelling to slow down, but all she got were either rude gestures or one jet skier in particular almost ran her over. Further down the river were two paddle boarders trying to dodge them all too, as you can see on the video. It was very disturbing to say the least. This incident is what broke the straw for me to write. I know you’re all thinking, “well it’s not the first incident and not the last”. Unfortunately you are correct. I did call the OPP communications line on that day to report the incident but I told them not to bother sending anyone over as they were gone and we had no other solid information we could offer them.
My family and I are convinced that there will eventually be a tragedy on this river. On the July 1st holiday we took a cruise down the river on our own boat. It was a beautiful day and it was a busy day on the river. When we rounded one of the many blind corners we came across a family (approximately 8-9 people with children) with 3 canoes. They had stopped on one of the many sandy banks for a break and a swim. Everyone was frolicking in the water. This particular area they were in has blind corners approximately 30 feet each way from where they were swimming. If a group of jet skiers (or even one) comes down the river at full throttle there is no way they would be able to stop or clear them in time. It’s a disaster waiting to happen. This is just one example of many over the years of how vacationers enjoy the river but are essentially sitting ducks on the water (literally).
I also understand that the OPP does not have the funding to constantly be monitoring activity on the river. I remember as a teenager (approximately 40 years ago) we would witness OPP marine units on the lake and river several times over the summer monitoring the area, especially on long weekends. In the last few years we are lucky to see them once a year. The last time was on a rainy Saturday when there was truly no one on the river. Again, I get it. They were booked to go that day and it happened to be a rainy day. Bad luck, Murphy’s law – whatever the case it was a waste of time and money for those officers.
Rob Millman says
Congratulations, Mr. Lehman, on your well-reasoned treatise on active transportation. I don’t know if you’re a lawyer or a teacher; but you presented a strong case. As active transportation is considered by the OP as something that the Town should be endeavouring to promote; I feel that you should forward a copy to Kristin Maxwell, Principal Planner, Town of Huntsville.
Sallie Moore says
How I have missed the colorful corner under the flags this summer- always a beautiful sight!
MANY THANKS to Helen Bastedo, her friends & neighbors, for their most appreciated endeavor!
As a lover of flowers & plants, my drive- by now will bring a smile & warm thoughts of our caring community.
David Ferguson says
I held a face covering over my mouth and nose today at the Tim Horton in an effort to comply with the new legislation. I was told by the girl behind the counter to wear a mask tomorrow when I came in. ” Don’t worry”, I said. “I won’t be back”.
Steve Lehman says
Apple or Bell
If Huntsville were a tech company I think it would be an Apple. Not including this summer, (for obvious reasons), it seems like the BIA of Huntsville has always strived to present some new activity or event every summer weekend to attract tourists, and their disposable dollars, to our town. This is very progressive and contributes immensely to the perception that we are a thriving community with a humming economy. Like Apple continuously generating consumer interest by tweaking and upgrading their smart phones, Huntsville strives to keep people spending their money here by introducing new tourist events or tweaking old reliable ones. Well deserved kudos are owed to all involved.
Lately I’ve been reading and hearing about a consortium of public and private interests expressing an interest in developing some mountain bike trails. While I can appreciate that this is yet another app that may entice people to purchase the lifestyle that is Huntsville, I have to wonder if, in their excitement, the public interests aren’t neglecting the infrastructure that keeps people here and spending their money daily instead of just on the weekends.
My wife and I ride our bikes a lot. I think we have pedaled in every province but B.C. The interesting thing about all those bicycle excursions, though, is that some of the most interesting afternoons we have spent, repeatedly, have been up in North Bay. That is a town that has recognized the long-game benefit of attracting recreational bikers. Not extreme bikers, recreational family bikers.
From a wide two-way path with a painted centre line that follows along the shoreline of Lake Nipissing down to Callender to a four-lane section that is separated by a grassy median, North Bay has excelled in creating bike trails. To safely connect Nipissing University to the downtown, an elevated causeway was built over the four lanes of Highway #11. To connect the downtown to the expansive beaches and multi-use facilities of Lake Nipissing, an underground causeway was built beneath the several rows of rail lines that interrupt the otherwise pastoral continuity of the area. Bike path streets are well signed and painted.
The parallels to what Huntsville could do are almost too similar as to be eerie. For instance, a causeway beneath the train tracks from Susan St. to the existing bike path would be very popular and would provide an alternative to the dangerous stretch of path from Centre St to Hunters Bay proper. A causeway over the Muskoka River connecting Cliff St. to Camp Kitchen would provide a much safer route than Brunel Rd. for high school students going to the mall or kids from Meadow Park going swimming at Camp Kitchen or soccer practice at Conroy Park. A study about creating a better trail eastbound out Hwy #60 to Canal Rd. and on to Lake of Bays, or maybe just over to the proposed new mountain bike trails, could bear interesting fruit. A future triathlon route perhaps?
Now I will admit, these improvements would be expensive and not easily cost/benefit quantifiable. For a relatively inexpensive investment, however, a widening of the path and intense deforestation of burr bushes and thistle plants from Avery Beach to the impressive floating dock section would pay for itself ten times over in aesthetic value alone. In fact, a clean-up of that entire section of shoreline would bring families to the area for picnics and swimming, attracting the attention and interest of thousands of tourists as they slowly travel bumper to bumper along Hwy #11 north on a Friday evening. Almost like free advertising.
I guess, in summation, the best thing about living in Huntsville is, even if none of these things ever happen, it doesn’t matter. Huntsville is such a beautiful town that it will always thrive. Our base attractions of clean lakes, fresh air and beautiful views will always ensure that people come here to spend money. In a way, I guess we are more like Mother Bell – as long as we provide the basic opportunity for people to communicate with nature, entrepreneurs will continue to introduce new apps they hope will be applicable to the area.
Al Kudryk says
Are You Going To wear your Mask ???
Well I will because I do care for the well being of others. I know people feel that they have the RIGHT NOT TO WEAR A MASK !!! You also have the RIGHT TO DIE WITH THIS Virus !!! There are people out there who my not be symptomatic, and are carriers!!! Can you tell??? Probably not!!! It has been proven that wearing a mask does reduce your chances of contracting the Corona Virus.
If you value your life and those of others please wear your mask and practice social distancing and the proper hygiene that is required by us. If we all do are part we will get through this TOGETHER!!! Just look to the south of us and see the dire straights that the people of the United States are in right now!!!
Please listen to our Medicsl Health officials and if we work together we will overcome this Pandemic!!!
Please stay Healthy and Safe !!!
Al Kudryk
Denise Cooper says
I think we have the mask situation well in hand.
Now let’s get the conversation going about getting our kids back to school.
It is well documented that children are close to being immune to the virus. Let the educators decide the importance of children being in a structured learning environment.
Keep this in mind “if the payroll stopped being on auto-deposit in the bank accounts, trust me they would be back in the classroom, and that applies to all workers, especially our Municipalities they can work with a mask on.
Rob Millman says
I would just like to add my congratulations to the Bastedos and their group of volunteers. Not only is that parkette located at a major secondary intersection in Town; but it is dedicated to the G8 (a group, in my opinion, of which Canada is fortunate to be a member).
Allen Markle says
The Library has an air quality problem. Bad air. Now when did I hear that last? Sept. 20, 2017 I believe, when council used ‘bad air’ as the reason to close the train station. The building was subsequently sold for $2.00. The library should be worth at least that, but these are Co-vid times, so who knows. But I have a tooney ready.
Steve Ainger says
Thanks is due to a local couple, Frank and Helen Bastedo. They noted that gardens in the town park at the intersection of Center Street and West Road (where the G8 flags are) had not been maintained this year. With the Town’s consent Frank and Helen rounded up a group of volunteers who donated and planted perennials. Have a look if you are in the area. The gardens look great.
Ellen Duncan says
I can understand why the resturants request that folks eat in their vehicle. I just wish those same folks would please put their garbage in a garbage container and not fling it out their vehicle window and have it land on the road.
I’m sure MacDonalds and Tim Hortons etc. don’t care to have their advertising in the ditch.
It’s too bad a few make it a mess for some.
ellen
Gerry Lannan says
I wonder how many people had as much difficulty as I did making an appointment to be tested for covid 19.I needed it in order to visit my son in a group home. It seemed simple- just drive over to the summit center -whoops, that was last week only. I’ll just phone for an appointment; I searched every possible source I could think of without success; I finally phoned the Hospital to get the number; On Thur morning I phoned about 10/30; I was on hold a good 1/2 hr; At that point I was cut off; I called again about 230; this time I waited 11 mins + another 6 mins to exchange information; I got an appt for 240 on Fri; when I arrived I was taken right away; the folks there were great; I told the nurse how difficult it been to make the appt She said ” oh my gosh, all you had to do was call your family Dr. ” ; Who knew? This type of information should be displayed prominently by all media daily or weekly from now until the end of the pandemic.
Jacquie Howell says
Hope our politicians will do the right thing and mandatory masks or face protection for everyone (staff included) in all indoor locations and staff wearing masks on patios. A little late. Should have happened before July. GO FOLKS
Allen Markle says
Tricia and I took a drive out hwy. 60 last evening and overtook a vehicle with Alabama plates (headed for Alaska I suppose). When we drew alongside his car we saw he was wearing a mask….although the window was open. Who said our southern neighbors don’t pick up on a few safety tips. Good on you mate. But in your canoe in the middle of the lake I think the mask can come off. Have a safe summer.
On our way home we thought we might grab a cone at the dairy but the drive-through was closed and the crowd at the front was a little too dense. No ‘social distance’ there. But who can lick a cone with a mask on? Go figure!
Tracey Stone says
I’m not happy at all that the is remaining closed!! Many other communities have reopened the pool and I think it’s our town’s responsibility to its citizens to open!! Yes I can swim in the lake but to do it safely I shouldn’t swim alone, please open the pool ?♀️
Evert McIlwain says
Mayor Terziano -please make masks mandatory in businesses and areas where distancing is not possible. Don’t sit on the fence like some other local politicians. Put our health and lives first. That’s the right thing to do if you care about your community. If you do that the economy will stay open. It’s not rocket science!
Rob Millman says
What more can be said about mandatory masks? I wear one for everyone else: Why can’t others return the favour? I’m an old dude with lungs ravaged by a violent attack of pneumonia. So I fall into the “most vulnerable” category. We seniors gave what we could for the “invincible” youth to entertain their present lifestyle. A small sacrifice on your part would mean so much. Thank you.
ellen duncan says
It was so good to see the flags around the property yesterday. Thank you Coldwell Banker for keeping a little bit of normal.
ellen duncan
JOHN WYDRA says
We have been doing well in Muskoka as far as covid goes. However with influx of tourists to our region (I would like to promote the visits) I think to protect ourselves and keep our numbers low, I think we have to consider the mandatory use of masks in public places (especially indoors). Thanks.
Barb Elliott says
Happy Canada Day- Thank you to the Coldwell Banker Thompson Real Estate Team family and friends for bringing a little red and white “old normal” to the community today. So pleased to see this annual patriotic gesture staying Canada Strong!
Sheila Hofstetter says
Yes, I agree with everyone wearing a mask out in public. We can continue to keep our numbers low if everyone of all ages helps all of us stay safe from covid19.
Evelynn and Larry Funston says
Wanda, we agree with your comments – well said. There now seems to be agreement that wearing masks inside public areas and businesses protects others from you and thus if everyone wears masks then we would be protecting each other. This is so important now we are hearing more about asymtomatic – silent spreading of Covid-19.
Wanda Roberts says
I commend Mayor John Tory’s recommendation to make the wearing of masks mandatory in closed public spaces. He has considered the health and wellbeing of Torontonian’s going forward and I hope fellow members of his council support and pass this the motion.
By today’s statistics the pandemic is growing globally and we have been told a second wave is inevitable. Our community leaders have a responsibility to keep abreast of all information regarding the pandemic but they must also be bravely proactive in setting new social standards that may not be popular but keep people safe. Wearing masks in closed public spaces is one of those measures that can slow the spread of the virus before it’s too late. Yes, there have been contradictory messages in the past regarding the wearing of masks but new guidelines should evolve with time, experience and the commitment of providing the safest environment possible for citizens.
Our community has seen the return of cottagers and visitors and thus there are more people in grocery stores, malls and other retail outlets. Complacency has set in and I have had to remind people to respect the 2-meter rule on many occasions while grocery shopping. The community is now more open, there are more risks thus we need more guidelines. As citizens we adjusted to “No Smoking” rules for health reasons and I’m sure the wearing of a mask for health reasons will be no different.
I am calling out to our Mayor, all of our elected officials and public health officers to seriously consider mandating the wearing of masks in closed public spaces. At the end of the day, we all want to say that we did all that we could to help each other as well as ourselves.
Ryan Vallentin says
Hey Rob, to add to your comments (by the way I’m in agreement with you 100%) people just shouldn’t advertise where they purchased their vehicle from anyway. It looks terrible on vehicles, the dealerships are not paying you for this advertising, and it marks you as a visitor when away from home.
The worst offender is our local Dodge dealer with the stupid rear window stickers on all their Rams, it has the opposite effect of what they intended. Any dealer added stickers, license plate surrounds, or emblems just scream that the dealership cares more about advertising then about their existing customers.
Debbie Kirwin says
I too find mask wearing to be hit and miss and as a concerned high risk resident I find myself still in isolation. Rolston hands out a face mask to each customer at the front door. Perhaps the Doppler could do a series of articles on why stores are not enforcing masks as well, interviewing people who are not wearing them including names and pictures. I understand that our numbers are low, but with the influx of tourists combined with the attitude that we here in Muskoka are COVID-19 free, we should remain vigilant to avoid a second outbreak. I can only hope that a vaccine will be found soon.
Rob Millman says
I was appalled to learn of the vandalism toward non-local vehicles. Some less-than-stellar permanent residents are “keying” all vehicles not purchased locally.
This is an illegal effort to disrespect cottagers, and to discourage them from vacationing in Muskoka. Of course, they contribute to the tax base for our area; in return for very little return. You have no way to know if they are self-isolating for 14 days; so to preemptively act as judge and jury is a desperate measure for bored people.
I would add that my son, a permanent resident, purchased his vehicle in another town, and is now afraid to park downtown. Furthermore, the practice has extended to “keying” expensive cars (regardless of origin). Obviously, this is a senseless act of jealousy.
I can only hope that you are caught; made to pay for the damage; and at minimum, sentenced to community service. Maybe, it will give you a sense of what real community is.
Tamara de la Vega says
Hello George,
We are sorry you missed it. Here is the link: https://doppleronline.ca/huntsville/covid-19-drive-through-testing-available-this-week-for-long-term-care-retirement-home-visit-requirements/
We also included the news in our newsletter—a synopsis of all our stories—which goes out directly to subscribers via email three times a week. If you’re interested you can sign up here: https://doppleronline.ca/huntsville/subscribe-to-doppler/
George Gilley says
Did our senior walk around the Summit Center yesterday (Thursday) and was surprised (pleasantly) to see a covid-19 testing facility at front entrance. There may have been announcements on the local radio however we had not seen any notifications anywhere
What a shame. How was a person to be aware of this service
Barbara Armstrong says
I would like to remind people using wave runners (SeaDoos, etc) that while you are out having fun going around and around in circles over your own waves for hours or zooming back and forth and back and forth…we, on the shore, are trying to have a peaceful conversation or coffee, and are tired of your noise! Maybe you could travel to the middle of a bigger lake? Or not stay out for so long? Or stop at 6 pm and leave the evening for peace and quiet on the lake? You’re not the only ones living up here! And to the wake boarders – STOP IT!! The loons and ducks are loosing their chicks because you’re washing out their nests and separating the families! The storms and high waters are wreaking enough havoc with the shorelines without you adding to the damage – and your sport makes it impossible for people new to paddle boards and canoes to get a chance to enjoy a nice day on the water. If you “must” wake board, please find the middle of a very large lake and stay there, or wait for a very windy day when the rest of us can’t go out and the lake is already covered with huge waves.
Ryan Vallentin says
I was in Metro on June 23 shopping and EVERY employee had a mask on. I didn’t look for gloves.
Rob Millman says
Mr.Trudeau continues to find zero -to – none plaudits of any kind, here in the Tory stronghold of Muskoka.
So as a born contrarian, I would like to salute him for making even minor inroads into China trade relations (stepping into the vacuum created by Mr. Trump’s failure).
Marg Wood says
I am shocked,as well, at the lack of mask-wearing at the Independent and Metro stores! Handling fresh items and stocking shelves, cashiers and all employees should be wearing masks!!
Roger Staig says
I continue to be aghast at the lack of face masks been worn in retail stores. Don’t blame our seasonal residents. Many of the Bare-faced shoppers are locals I recognize. Of particular disappointment are the retail merchants where staff not only refuse to where masks but do not practice social distancing. When I asked one staff person at Canadian Tire why they weren’t wearing masks, she said: ” I ain’t wearing no mask to work”:. That surprised me but before I could carry on the conversation, the store Manager walked by and I noticed he was NOT wearing a mask. I concluded that there is a culture of false bravery in that store. I have taken my business elsewhere.
John Mitchell says
Is nobody listening and or watching the news. Covid 19 is real. Masks and social distancing is for now our only defence. We support our local businesses but many are not respecting us by wearing masks.
Too many of us are guilty as well. When will our local authorities mandate masks…….before it’s too late?
Sherry McAlpine says
With the lack of knowing what Covid is all about, how it’s acquired etc., the very least we can do is wear a mask . It’s a small nuisance that does prevent contagious diseases as we know. Gloves are helpful too but we need to use these preventative measures correctly.
There are no staff members at the Ideoendent in Huntsville that wear masks or gloves. Deli staff are cutting cold cuts w