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Four-storey, 42-unit building proposed for corner of Main West and Tait St.

At its May 14 meeting, the Huntsville Planning Council held extensive discussions regarding the height and density of a proposed four-storey, 767m² building at 3 Tait Street containing 42 rental units.

The corner lot across from Maslack is 2,493m² in area and has approximately 38m of frontage on Main Street West and about 47m along Tait Street.

Planning consultant John Gallagher was before the Planning Council, representing the proponent, Lionston Group, headed by Ravi Prasher. Prasher is also the developer of Laketree Properties on Highway 60, apartments on Huntsville’s Main Street, and the former cinema in Huntsville. His holdings also include a development in Parry Sound.

Gallagher told councilors the 42-unit development would significantly reduce Huntsville’s rental housing shortage. He said the 42 units would consist of five two-bedroom units, 25 one-bedroom units, and 12 bachelor apartments. Gallagher also said ten units would be specifically set aside for affordable rental housing.

The applicant is applying for relief in order to:

  1. Reduce the minimum required front yard setback for a multiple dwelling from 7m to 4.9m and
    from 7m to 4.5m for the attached balconies;
  2. Reduce the minimum required exterior side yard setback for a multiple dwelling from 3m to
    2.4m and from 3m to 1.55m for the attached balconies;
  3. Increase the maximum permitted height for a multiple dwelling from 11m to 16.9m;
  4. Reduce the minimum required number of parking spaces from 61 spaces to 44 spaces;
  5. Reduce the minimum required landscape buffer abutting a parking lot along the rear lot line
    from 3m to 1.3m and along the exterior side lot line from 3m to 1.7m;
  6. Increase the maximum permitted density from 60 units per hectare (15 units) to 169 units per
    hectare (42 units); and
  7. Reduce the minimum required setback for a loading space abutting a residential precinct from
    4m to 1.8m.

According to planning staff, the justification for allowing an increase in height would involve the following community benefits:

  1. A $15,000 contribution towards improvements for Avery Beach Park;
  2. Seating and landscape improvements along Main Street West between the sidewalk and front
    lot line of the subject property;
  3. Underground parking which includes 16 vehicular parking spaces and a bike rack for 16
    bicycles; and
  4. 10 affordable rental units. The applicant will be applying to be part of the Muskoka Affordability
    Housing Initiative Program (MAHIP), however, if funding is not provided through MAHIP, they
    have committed to providing 10 affordable units regardless.

The planning package presented by staff includes eight letters expressing concerns related to the height and density of the building, requested reductions to buffers and setbacks, the impact of reduced parking requests, traffic concerns related particularly to the Tait and Main Street West intersection, and concerns about snow removal.

What councillors said

Councillor Helena Renwick said she was not able to attend the open house held by the applicant, but she did meet with some of the neighbours and said she agreed that the density and height of the building are too high. Renwick also expressed concern about an increase in traffic in an already congested area, particularly in the summer with people going to Avery Beach. She also stated that proper sidewalks are required, a responsibility that will fall on the Town, particularly if density is allowed to increase. “There’s a number of things that I’m very concerned about, in particular, the height…,” she said.

Councillor Cory Clarke said he would not be supporting the application. “I can really appreciate what the applicant is trying to do here and he’s made some very generous offers and I appreciate that, there’s a lot of positive things about the application but I can’t support the increase in height, much like Councillor Renwick has just said.

Clarke said, in his opinion, an increase in the height of buildings should only be allowed in new subdivisions and where it won’t impact existing homes. “This way, when you’re buying into a new subdivision, you’re going to know that there’s a good chance or a possibility that you may have a four-storey building beside you.” Cory said he’d like to see those concerns incorporated into the new policy planning staff is working on as it pertains to height and density.

“We really run into trouble when we try to add four-storey density into mature neighbourhoods, and after seeing the process played out for this application and the Cairns application, one thing is very clear to me: Our residents don’t want four and five-story buildings being infilled into mature neighbourhoods, and I don’t either. I’ve heard this very clearly from many Huntsville residents and not just residents that are in the affected areas, but residents that are in other areas in town that aren’t affected,” said Clarke.

Councillor Scott Morrison said he too was concerned with traffic and parking overflow on the side streets and asked the Town to put up no-parking signs.

“And I guess I’m trying to balance it all. I mean, let’s be honest: if we say no and somebody went to the OLT (Ontario Land Tribunal), the province would say, ‘Why aren’t you building more?’ This is what the province wants, so it’s tough because we need to control our municipality, but every week, the province is taking away some of our powers to control our town, and we’ve seen time and time again us spending money to deny something, fight at the OLT and find out they’re getting everything they want, so I’d rather work with the applicant and the neighbours to try to find a way to balance the neigbhours’ concerns with getting us rental units that are sorely needed. And I know, I get that the height might be an issue, but there are a lot of people that can’t afford to live in this town right now…”

Huntsville Mayor Nancy Alcock spoke to issues such as sidewalks and parking signage. “If we’re going to approve projects like this, then we have to ensure that we’re providing the necessary infrastructure that supports it,” she said. “The applicant has a tremendous track record in this town of producing quality rental housing, and I have no doubt that in this case, not only will it be quality, but when he says he’ll provide ten affordable housing units, that he will and I think that’s really important.”

Alcock said she understands the concerns expressed, but the lot does have certain approvals already in place, and it is part of Huntsville’s Official Plan “as an area where the density will increase,” she said, adding that the development would be on Huntsville’s Main Street which is important when new housing is being built. She said there would potentially be many seniors living there, and they would be using transit, which runs right along there.

The lot on the left is where the building is being proposed

Alcock said she understands the impact on the residences at the back and said good buffers, such as mature trees and taller fences, could mitigate the impact. She also told Councillor Clarke that getting around infilling in established neighbourhoods in Huntsville’s urban area is difficult because it’s an area targeted for more housing.

Councillor Dione Schumacher agreed that traffic in that area isn’t great. She also said it seems the affordable housing units are dependent on higher density, and while it shouldn’t be that way, it does cost a lot to build, “and so we could get three floors and get what is acceptable, what’s been allowed, but it’s not going to meet our affordable housing market, and it seems like a few of these proposals that are coming in, are asking for that extra level just so they can create the opportunity to create affordable housing, which I do feel as a community we desperately need… so do we give up that one floor for the fact that we’re creating an opportunity for ten low-income families… that need places to live? And so that’s where I’m kind of at a crux. We’re building in an ideal spot where we could house possibly ten low-income families…”

Councillor Monty Clouthier said that extra floor is providing housing the municipality needs. “Like we’re not just going to plunk this here and leave the neighbourhood dry.” He said if the building is approved, the municipality should put in sidewalks and find solutions to the parking problem and foot traffic, and enhance the neighbourhood.

Deputy Mayor Dan Armour said the location is ideal. He said the construction of such buildings needs to be on municipal services, and housing is needed. He said with respect to many of the concerns expressed such as traffic, the municipality can work on those.

Clarke, added, “We sometimes make it seem like ‘well, these properties can’t be built on at all,’ and they can be. They’re in areas already that can be built on. There’s a certain number of units that could already be built in these areas, and so the reason that applications come here is because they want to build more, they want to build higher, and I’m saying, how much is too much? And I’m saying for me that four storeys in established neighbourhoods in Huntsville is too much, and I’m not going to be supporting it moving forward, and I won’t be supporting it when our height policy comes back here either because I don’t think our residents want to see it…”

Councillor Bob Stone said things like pedestrian traffic, sidewalks, and access to Main Street are things the municipality can address. As far as the height goes, Stone said there will be a report returning to the Planning Council table for approval, and “I do believe this [location] will probably be in that height and density corridor. It’s not on a hill; it’s not on the water. It’s on Main Street. I do believe that many seniors will probably be living there, be able to walk downtown every day, stay active. Avery Beach is right there, and I agree with the comments regarding the fourth floor. Having a fourth floor allows the developer to do those extra things: give us money to fix up Avery Beach, have accessible units, some low-income units. There’s too many positives, and I have to agree that it’s appropriate in that location.”

Renwick said she wants to make sure that it is understood that she is not against affordable housing and more rental housing in the community, but she is not in favour of four-storey buildings.

In the end, the majority of council agreed to proceed with preliminary conditional approvals, while Councillors Clarke and Renwick voted against it.

For more details about the development, you can find the full staff report HERE.

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13 Comments

  1. Tanya Sprathoff says:

    I’m not opposed to up, especially in places where the view is not impacted. However, what does concern me is reducing the buffers between adjacent properties. Reduced buffer zones means trees and other vegetation can’t be planted. I would be profoundly irritated as a homeowner if a development was approved next to my house and I could stand on the property line and almost touch it!! Not cool. Space needs to be left to allow trees to break up the sight lines and keep it natural. Keep it skinny; go up.

  2. Wendy J Brown says:

    Nancy Long the Bayview is if you count the basement, i think 5 levels. Or was when i was a kid.

  3. Joanne Tanaka says:

    The preliminary approval is probably just leading the developer to expect full approval, despite any concerns or questions.I understand the pressure to “support” any development of more affordable housing units- and then we will all have to live with any shortcomings of this project on this site. Hope that the units will accommodate a variety of family sizes. People, without cars and those who have some mobility limitations(seniors alluded to?), really need to be able to walk to services they need, like a real grocery store, the doctor, pharmacy etc. Not sure how easy the walk would be in winter.

  4. Dawid Juszczak says:

    Please correct me if I’m wrong, but is this the first four-storey building to be constructed on that street between Highway 11 and Highway 60?

    With over a 50% increase in height, nearly triple the density, a reduction of 17 required parking spaces, and all setbacks being reduced — it feels like someone is trying to squeeze an elephant into a closet. Where will visitors, maintenance staff, service providers, and caregivers find a place to park? Parking is already a major issue in this town, and it seems like we’re just continuing to make it worse.

    Traffic is another growing concern. Intersections like Tait Street/Main Street and Yonge Street/Main Street are already congested, especially during morning and afternoon rush hours. Making a left turn at those times is increasingly difficult, and in the winter months, it’s often downright dangerous.

    I’m also afraid that in a few years, every small piece of available land in town will follow the same path—changing the landscape and character of this town, unfortunately for the worse. That’s just my opinion.

    And I’m not even going to touch on ‘affordability,’ because it seems like nobody really knows what that means anymore

  5. Allen Markle says:

    We have applied for a ‘minor variance’ ourselves. A property which had 15 feet too little frontage. There was a lot of “hmmmm”ing done before we got our request. But this performance is an invitation to disregard everything ever written regarding a town plan. More of this and less of that and taller, further and wider than anything in the book. And not by just a little bit. Almost 50% higher than the ‘Plan’ allows’

    All this is to be considered because there is the promise of ‘affordable’ units being offered. Suggesting the rest won’t be affordable? Is this offer written down? Signed and notarized? Portable if the unit is simply sold on to other owners? And for how long is the offer for?

    Guess I’m a bit of a cynic since we had a rental unit built in a farm field near our home. The deal was the building permit in exchange for the farm supplying produce to a local food bank. I doubt the food bank got a radish out of the deal. But there is a nice rental unit.

    And for me it matters little how tall the Kent Hotel was, or the Bayview, or the Empire. All in the past to a different set of rules. Or lack of them. What is being requested is here and now. Supposedly to standards outlined in an existing, present day plan. Some variation or variance can be understood. But a total trashing of the whole document is not right. Why compile it in the first place if it doesn’t mean anything?

    So are the ’10 affordable units’ an offer that can’t be passed up? And a $15,000.00 contribution toward Avery Beach. Is the Town in such bad financial straits that it can be bought off for so little?

  6. Masha Frost says:

    Well its a great location so that i like tht and we DEFINITELY need more housing.
    I kno a portion will be considered “affordable”, really not sure what tht word means anymore since to some a $700,000 home is considered “affordable” whn so many of us wld be like OMG THTS NOT AFFORDABE….or rents that are $2000/mnth being called “affordable” jst becaus theyr not $3000/mnth😖

    We need #’s really. If it can truly deliver some relief than im ALL for it but its jst more luxury condos that non of our wrking poor can afford thn Id decline and try to find a different organization to wrk with to bring us what we actually need👍

  7. nancy long says:

    I wonder how many stories the old “Bayview” building is? Building up will become a necessity as more affordable housing is required.

  8. Kathryn Henderson says:

    Are these affordable????

  9. Jim Breen says:

    All this debate over 4 floors. Never forget that the Green Party wants blanket zoning for 6-11 floor buildings on main streets across the province.

    Imagine an 11 storey building there and council having no say in the matter? LOL.

  10. reuben edward pyette says:

    This proposal is far to large for this property. The surrounding properties would be significantly impacted by the density and height. Take off a floor and keep the buffers in place for all surrounding properties, or find a better property suited for this endeavor. Perhaps the old empire lot.

  11. Evan Collins says:

    Hello Huntsville Council. Wake up.
    You have a zoning bylaw. WHY? Because a lot of study and effort not to mention consulting cost has gone into it. There is no reason that a perfectly fine development could not be undertaken within the current regulations.
    This is a typical developer approach to ask for the ski and settle for something less which will still be out of character with our town.
    Do your job and remember who voted you in.
    Evan Collins

  12. Moe Sabourin says:

    If anything like this is to happen in this area, then the increased traffic flow and road infrastructure needs to be priority and investment from the developer should be part of the commitment.

    Proper traffic lights at Main and Younge Street that work in BOTH directions to control traffic MUST be installed. Road resurfacing on Main Street along the entire roadway, from Center Street to Hwy 11 with proper turn lanes needs to happen in order to handle the increased traffic flow, otherwise the resulting traffic increase and continued deterioration of the road will kill any desire for developers to continue to invest in housing in our town,

  13. Pauline Grimes says:

    To help with traffic, which can already be an issue especially in the summer season (with people accessing the Main Street from Yonge St and or Avery Beach), I think a regular traffic light in the area would be beneficial (not just a crosswalk).