{"id":55525,"date":"2018-09-19T11:29:56","date_gmt":"2018-09-19T15:29:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/huntsville.dopperonline.ca\/?p=55525"},"modified":"2018-09-19T12:26:53","modified_gmt":"2018-09-19T16:26:53","slug":"committee-defers-planning-approvals-for-18-legacy-lane-following-lengthy-discussions-about-traffic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/doppleronline.ca\/huntsville\/committee-defers-planning-approvals-for-18-legacy-lane-following-lengthy-discussions-about-traffic\/","title":{"rendered":"Committee defers planning approvals for 18 Legacy Lane, following lengthy discussions about traffic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A development planned for 18 Legacy Lane is causing concern among area residents who question the impact another multi-residential development will have on what they say is an already congested area.<\/p>\n<div style=\"float: left; margin-right: 14px;\"><strong><broadstreet-zone zone-id=\"45658\" keywords=\"\" soft-keywords=\"true\" zone-alias=\"\"><\/broadstreet-zone><\/strong><\/div>\n<p>Up to 59 residential units are being proposed on a 1.8-hectare parcel of land at 18 Legacy Lane. The proposed development would be made up of a multi-residential building, semi-detached homes and townhouses, according to Town planning documents. The developer is proposing to access the development via Legacy Lane.<\/p>\n<p>According to planning staff, Legacy Lane is owned by Chartwell which constructed the private road. Committee also learned that while liability for the private road sits with Chartwell, when the surrounding lots were created, including 18 Legacy Lane, the municipality granted those lots a legal right-of-way over the private road.<\/p>\n<p>At its September 12 meeting, Planning Committee was presented with a petition signed by more than 100 residents who live at Chartwell retirement residence, Vernon View Condominiums and Serenity Place Crescent. They asked committee to refrain from granting access to the development via Legacy Lane and suggested that the development could be accessed from either Kinton Avenue or Hanes Road, rather than exacerbating traffic on an already congested road.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"modern-quote full\"><p>Serenity Place Crescent was developed with a 6.4-metre road. There is no parking. We have to remove all cars from the road\u2026 to allow the garbage pick-up on a weekly basis. It is absolutely ridiculous, it was the biggest error that I think council has ever made.<cite>Serenety Place Crescent resident<\/cite><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u201cThere is no overflow parking for Serenity Place Crescent, therefore we are forced to park on Legacy Lane. It is not illegal, it\u2019s a private road. So what are we going to do when we allow this next construction to veer through Legacy Lane? There will be so much traffic,\u201d the resident added.<\/p>\n<p>Another area resident noted that both Legacy Lane and Serenity Place Crescent are private roads, occupied by many seniors. &#8220;I think by bringing traffic through onto Legacy Lane, and back and forth from Hanes Road, will create a possible traffic hazard or danger to not only people using that area but certainly to the residents who reside there,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p>Planning Consultant for the applicant, Wayne Simpson, argued against staff\u2019s recommendation to defer planning approvals until a traffic study has been conducted to the Town&#8217;s satisfaction.<\/p>\n<p>He said a traffic study had already been conducted by Stantec in April 2015, which took into account 33 townhouses. \u201cThe conclusion of that report was that no road improvements were required to accommodate the development. So this property has already been assessed by a site-specific traffic study to look at 33 units. What\u2019s currently proposed is a maximum of 60, probably more about 59, so we\u2019re talking about 25 units over and above what was studied by Stantec in that traffic brief,\u201d said Simpson.<\/p>\n<p>He argued that as per the study\u2019s conclusion, traffic operations on Hanes Road as well as the Centre Street and Legacy Lane intersection should be monitored along with the pace and intensity of other area development to determine whether municipal infrastructure such as left turning lanes might be required.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t think it would be fair to place any burden of responsibility to make improvements solely on my client\u2019s property,\u201d said Simpson. In terms of accessing the new development from Kinton Avenue, Simpson said the grade is too steep. \u201cThe grade from the site down to Kinton Avenue would be 13 per cent and that is like five to 5.5 per cent higher than the maximum normally approved by the municipality.\u201d He also said it would open more traffic from Kinton Avenue to the area.<\/p>\n<p>He further argued that it would be unfair for those living in the new development to be obligated to drive through an industrial business park to get to their dwelling. \u201cThe reality of the matter is that this lot was created by approvals by the Town of Huntsville and allowed this together with a legal right-of-way right out to Centre Street on Legacy Lane. So my client has a legal right to go along Legacy Lane out to Centre Street, and that\u2019s a fact.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Councillor Bob Stone said the road has always been a problem. He said it\u2019s too narrow and always comes up whenever that area is discussed. In terms of access through Kinton Avenue, while Stone agreed that it is too steep, he noted that it does not have to go \u201cstraight down.\u201d He also seemed to recall talk of an alternative route for that area.<\/p>\n<div style=\"float: left; margin-right: 14px;\"><strong><broadstreet-zone zone-id=\"45658\" keywords=\"\" soft-keywords=\"true\" zone-alias=\"\"><\/broadstreet-zone><\/strong><\/div>\n<p>Town Manager of Planning Kirstin Maxwell said when the Serenity Place development was being discussed, permission to access that lot off Hanes Road was granted, but instead the developer chose to access it via Legacy Lane. She also said that if permission were to be granted to 18 Legacy Lane to access off Kinton Avenue, it would have to be specifically elaborated in the bylaw because a swath of land adjacent to the road allowance is designated as parkland.<\/p>\n<p>Deputy Mayor Karin Terziano noted that  there is yet another development proposed that fronts on Centre Street. She said that as much as Legacy Lane is not the municipality\u2019s responsibility, something needs to be done.  \u201cIt needs to be addressed because we can\u2019t just keep approving increased density in an area that the traffic flow can\u2019t handle,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I\u2019m pro-development,&#8221; added Huntsville Mayor Scott Aitchison. &#8220;But it\u2019s got to be done smart and this hasn\u2019t been done very smart, so I think we need to take a closer look at it.&#8221;  Aitchison also noted that recreational trails were originally planned in that area, which have not materialized.<\/p>\n<p>Councillor Nancy Alcock, who chairs the planning committee, asked staff what additional requirements could be asked of the developers in that area.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a little tricky when you\u2019re dealing with a private road that has already gone through planning approvals\u2014what you can require them to do,\u201d responded Huntsville Senior Planner Elizabeth Reimer. She said the proponent can be required to make improvements on a municipal road if it is determined that their development is the tipping point for capacity, but it&#8217;s harder to require something to be done on a private road.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"modern-quote full\"><p>I feel very much like this is spiraling a bit out of control. I think what I\u2019d like to see us do is take a step back, sit down with the applicants, some of the neighbours\u2026 I mean, I don\u2019t think we need to force them to spend thousands of dollars on some ridiculous study. I mean we complain constantly about having to spend money on consultants around this table; then we force people to go out and spend money on consultants. How much of planning is about getting neighbours to work together? So let\u2019s sit down and facilitate that. Let\u2019s talk to everybody.<cite>Huntsville Mayor Scott Aitchison<\/cite><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Aitchison also emphasized that the developer has certain development rights. \u201cSo I don\u2019t think that we should be too officious and pushy here. I\u2019m asking that we all sit down and have a conversation, not that we demand this, that and the other thing. Let\u2019s see if we can sort out what the problems really are, what we can do to alleviate that and if the municipality needs to play a role in some way, if the developer can help in some way\u2014that\u2019s all I\u2019m asking. So let\u2019s not get crazy with demands about crosswalks and sidewalks on private lands just yet. Let\u2019s talk to everybody first, that\u2019s all I\u2019m saying.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Alcock responded by saying she appreciated everything the Mayor had said. \u201cPerhaps the way I talked about it was a bit more officious than need be. From my perspective, I was looking at it seems that there are certain issues that consistently are being raised and so I think that I agree that it would be good to bring together the people that are involved and who live in that community, but also the developers who have already received certain rights. So I just think that would make a whole lot of sense.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Stone added that another access definitely needs to be considered and the municipality should be a part of achieving that goal.<\/p>\n<p>Huntsville Director of Planning Derrick Hammond said if committee deferred approvals it would give staff an opportunity to study historical approvals and get a better understanding of what the vision was at the time and \u201cwhether or not there\u2019s existing approvals on title that may address the issue of shared maintenance on the road vis-a-vis other parcels to be involved at some point in time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Although the height of the building was not discussed in detail, the applicant is asking for a three-metre height exemption from the 11 metres the property is zoned for, according to Reimer. Simpson also noted during the meeting that the height of the proposed building would be situated below the tree line and be \u201c2.5 to 2.7 metres lower than Chartwell.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Committee deferred planning approvals to facilitate a meeting with area stakeholders. You can find the full planning report <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/huntsvilleon.civicweb.net\/document\/14895\/2A419106C6A646FB83D80A71308A0D2A-.pdf?handle=27E6998CE6724DA7ABD4D5ADA1534571\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here <\/a><\/span>and related story <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/doppleronline.ca\/huntsville\/legacy-lane-development-seeking-height-exemption-staff-request-visual-impact-renderings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a><\/span>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Don\u2019t miss out on Doppler! 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